Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter switching in AM mode

2018-08-09 Thread Grant Youngman
Or use AM SYNC mode .. Grant NQ5T K3 #2091 KX3 #8342 > On Aug 9, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > Wolfgang, > > The width displayed is the audio width. An AM signal has 2 sidebands, so it > is twice as wide as the audio frequency displayed. > If you want to listen to AM in a 1.35

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter switching in AM mode

2018-08-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
Wolfgang, The width displayed is the audio width. An AM signal has 2 sidebands, so it is twice as wide as the audio frequency displayed. If you want to listen to AM in a 1.35 kHz width, then it is possible, but there will be few highs, and will likely not be intelligible. You can use SSB

[Elecraft] K3 filter switching in AM mode

2018-08-09 Thread Wolfgang Peringer
Hello: Installed a 6 Khz AM-filter and have the following problem: Filter slot 1:  6Khz Filter Filter slot 2: 2.7 Khz Filter Both of the filters are configurated as receive filters for AM mode. When I switch from filter 1 to filter 2 in AM mode the filter 2 (2.7 KHz) is shown in the display

[Elecraft] K3 filter trade?

2016-11-23 Thread Doug Shields
Hello everyone, I have an extra 2.8 KHz 8-pole filter for the K3. I would like to trade it for a 400 Hz filter for CW. My 2.8 filter works perfectly. Anyone want to trade? Otherwise, I would buy a 400 Hz filter if anyone has one they would part with. Let me know your price.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Attenuation Gain Make Up

2016-02-29 Thread lstavenhagen
Thanks for the info Ken. I was wondering about any detrimental effects of those higher gain settings; now that I know nothing is wrong (sounds like just a normal insertion loss with the narrow filter) I've backed mine down to 3. I also put the new synthesizer in the rig and I honestly can't tell

[Elecraft] K3 Filter Attenuation Gain Make Up

2016-02-29 Thread KJ Lopez
Per Jim’s note below: I recently upgraded to the new Synthesizers for my ancient K3 #951. I have 5 Pole 2.7s in both receivers, but multiple 8 Pole narrower filters as well as a 5 pole 200Hz that always was hard to listen to. I read through the manual and Fred’s excellent K3 book and found

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Settings Main and Sub Receiver Track For Data Mode Only

2015-10-23 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Elliott, I tested MCU 5.33 and could not duplicate your problem. I noticed that the latest production release firmware is 5.38. I loaded 5.38 and again tested and still could not duplicate your problem. So maybe the problem was only present with MCU 5.35. Another possibility is that you

[Elecraft] K3 Filter Settings Main and Sub Receiver Track For Data Mode Only

2015-10-23 Thread Elliott Lawrence
Using the latest K3 firmware MCU 5.35 for my K3 (not K3S). In the Data mode only, setting the bandwidth of the main receiver also causes the subreceiver bandwidth to track and be identical. The BSET control XFIL for Data has no effect. In CW and SSB modes the main receiver XFIL can be adjusted

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Settings Main and Sub Receiver Track For Data Mode Only

2015-10-23 Thread Elliott Lawrence
Changing to MCU 5.38 did not solve the problem. Need to contact K3 support! 73 Elliott WA6TLA On Oct 23, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Elliott Lawrence wrote: > Using the latest K3 firmware MCU 5.35 for my K3 (not K3S). In the Data mode > only, setting the bandwidth of the main

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Settings Main and Sub Receiver Track For Data Mode Only

2015-10-23 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Elliott, Here's a long-shot. Take a look at your filter selection for your SUB RX using the K3 Utility program. Maybe you only have one filter enabled for DATA mode. 73, Mike K2MK Elliott Lawrence-5 wrote > Changing to MCU 5.38 did not solve the problem. Need to contact K3 > support! > 73

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Settings Main and Sub Receiver Track For Data Mode Only

2015-10-23 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I have a K3. Did not have the problem in 5.33. Do not have the problem in 5.38. I am unable to duplicate your problem. In Data A, and b SEt width control varies width in sub RX while main RX stays the same. Your report sounds like you are in diversity mode. My frequency shows as 1.814.9 The right

Re: [Elecraft] (K3) filter setting shifts panadapter display

2015-10-04 Thread Robert G Strickland
Joe... Excellent. Two equipment/function answers for one question. Very much appreciated. Have a good day. ...robert On 10/5/2015 00:10, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Not sure what the connection is, but it resoled the display problem. The K3 shifts the IF center frequency based on mode,

Re: [Elecraft] (K3) filter setting shifts panadapter display

2015-10-04 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
That should be *too high*, not too low. Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote > I consistently get the P3's center frequency to be too low - in this > example about 45 Hz too low. See screen capture here: > > http://folk.uio.no/sverre/LA3ZA/Offset-P3-K3-400HzXFIL-LA3ZA.jpg - Sverre, LA3ZA K2

Re: [Elecraft] (K3) filter setting shifts panadapter display

2015-10-04 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
I'm seeing something similar, but I'm not sure if it's the same effect or something related. Using 400 Hz bandwidth and a 400 Hz roofing filter, and using Auto to zero-beat a CW signal, I consistently get the P3's center frequency to be too low - in this example about 45 Hz too low. See screen

Re: [Elecraft] (K3) filter setting shifts panadapter display

2015-10-04 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
I just learned from an offline email that this can be fixed using the Cal function in the P3 (preferreably after 1 hr warm-up) - and indeed that was the case! Thanks to Bill, NR4C. Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote > That should be * > too high * > , not too low. > Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote >> I

Re: [Elecraft] (K3) filter setting shifts panadapter display

2015-10-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Not sure what the connection is, but it resoled the display problem. The K3 shifts the IF center frequency based on mode, Shift/FC, and selected filter to center the desired signal in the filter. Without knowing the IF center frequency (the IS; Get command), the panadapter [assumed] center

Re: [Elecraft] (K3) filter setting shifts panadapter display

2015-10-04 Thread Robert G Strickland
I think I solved this... In NaP3 there are options for polling various rig parameters [CAT Polling]. In this section I had polling for "IF Frequency" unchecked. Once checked, all signals stayed where they belong. Not sure what the connection is, but it resoled the display problem. Thanks for

[Elecraft] (K3) filter setting shifts panadapter display

2015-10-03 Thread Robert G Strickland
I have a K3 [w/ new synthesizer], an LP-Pan, M-Audio Delta, and running NaP3v4. K3 filters are: 2.7/8p, 1.9/8p, 500/8p, 200/5p. Not sure "where" this is happening, but decided to start here. On CW, using the K3 CWT to center a signal, the pan display frequency for the signal shifts around as

[Elecraft] [K3] - Filter Selection/Requirement for ESSB TX

2014-11-13 Thread Walter C. Ames
I am new to the list, and did not find this in the archives or other materials. If this has been discussed or otherwise, a pointer to the data would be great. When selecting filters for various operational modes on the K3, I was wondering if the 6k filter is ‘Required’ for ESSB operation, or

Re: [Elecraft] (K3) Filter Set-up

2014-10-04 Thread Rich
Thanks for the tips. This morning I moved the filter from FL3 to FL4, have used the K3 utility program to set it up in this slot and have tried 3 and 4 dB of gain but I still get the same. Will email support to see what they say. 73 Rich On 27 September 2014 15:10, Matt Zilmer

Re: [Elecraft] (K3) Filter Set-up

2014-09-27 Thread Matt Zilmer
After you've done what Bill suggested, try setting the loss (dB) for this filter, using the K3 Utility program. I believe the equivalent filter loss is 3-4 dB. This would be normal. The K3 can compensate for it, as long as you set the value (otherwise assumed to be 0 dB). Be sure the filter

Re: [Elecraft] (K3) Filter Set-up

2014-09-27 Thread Bruce Beford
In addition to the other suggestions you have received (assuming still no signal through the filter), you may want to try the filter in another slot. Early on, I had the same problem after installing a 250 Hz filter. the problem ended up being a coupling cap on the circuit board with no solder on

Re: [Elecraft] (K3) Filter Set-up

2014-09-27 Thread Chuck Tifft via Elecraft
I also had a solder problem with one of the filter slot steering diodes on one of my K3's. It was only soldered on one end. Chuck W6RD On 9/27/2014 7:52 AM, Bruce Beford wrote: In addition to the other suggestions you have received (assuming still no signal through the filter), you may want to

[Elecraft] (K3) Filter Set-up

2014-09-26 Thread Rich
Hi I have the 2.7, 1.8 and 250hz filters installed in FL1, FL2 and FL3 in my K3. Using the width I can change these filters and see the filter change as I get narrower. When I get to FL3 which has the 250hz filter, the noise level disappears totally and there is nothing on the S-meter. When on

Re: [Elecraft] (K3) Filter Set-up

2014-09-26 Thread Bill Frantz
Off the top of my head: It sounds like the signal isn't getting through the 250 Hz filter when you have it selected. Double check that it is installed correctly. Double check you activated the correct slot in the CONFIG menu. The XFIL button will allow you to switch filters without changing

[Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread N2TK, Tony
What happened to the 5-pole and 8-pole filter plots on the Elecraft web site? I can't seem to find them anymore. Any ideas where I might look? Tnx N2TK, Tony __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread Gary W. Hvizdak
On Tue Sep 2 2014 at 12:35:38 EDT Tony, N2TK posted ... What happened to the 5-pole and 8-pole filter plots on the Elecraft web site? --- - - - --- Tony, the page is broken! --- - - - --- Brandon, The page http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3_filter_plots.htm is broken in that the plots are no

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread N2TK, Tony
...@elecraft.com Cc: tony@verizon.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots On Tue Sep 2 2014 at 12:35:38 EDT Tony, N2TK posted ... What happened to the 5-pole and 8-pole filter plots on the Elecraft web site? --- - - - --- Tony, the page is broken

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread Phil Wheeler
, N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: Gary W. Hvizdak [mailto:gary.hviz...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 1:26 PM To: bran...@elecraft.com Cc: tony@verizon.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots On Tue Sep 2 2014 at 12:35:38 EDT Tony, N2TK

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread N2TK, Tony
Tnx Phil, but it doesn't work here. N2TK, Tony From: Phil Wheeler [mailto:w...@socal.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 2:11 PM To: N2TK, Tony; 'Gary W. Hvizdak'; bran...@elecraft.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots This link can be useful

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread Ed Muns
Yes, the link below works, but the link to the crystal filter plots that is at that top of that webpage is broken. Ed W0YK - Phil W7OX wrote: This link can be useful and still works: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/Roofing_Filters.htm

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread Thomas R. Houston
...@elecraft.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots Yes, the link below works, but the link to the crystal filter plots that is at that top of that webpage is broken. Ed W0YK - Phil W7OX wrote: This link can be useful

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Of Ed Muns Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 11:39 AM To: 'Phil Wheeler'; 'N2TK, Tony'; 'Gary W. Hvizdak'; bran...@elecraft.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots Yes, the link below works, but the link to the crystal filter plots that is at that top of that webpage

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread Fred Townsend
Have you refreshed your page? -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com Sent: Sep 2, 2014 12:39 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots They certainly don't work for me. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-09-02 3:28 PM, Thomas R. Houston

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread Phil Wheeler
for me. Tom K6OKE -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Ed Muns Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 11:39 AM To: 'Phil Wheeler'; 'N2TK, Tony'; 'Gary W. Hvizdak'; bran...@elecraft.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread Matt VK2RQ
: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 11:39 AM To: 'Phil Wheeler'; 'N2TK, Tony'; 'Gary W. Hvizdak'; bran...@elecraft.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots Yes, the link below works, but the link to the crystal filter plots that is at that top of that webpage is broken

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Of Ed Muns Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 11:39 AM To: 'Phil Wheeler'; 'N2TK, Tony'; 'Gary W. Hvizdak'; bran...@elecraft.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots Yes, the link below works, but the link to the crystal filter plots that is at that top

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Ed Muns Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 11:39 AM To: 'Phil Wheeler'; 'N2TK, Tony'; 'Gary W. Hvizdak'; bran...@elecraft.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots Yes, the link below works

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots

2014-09-02 Thread N2TK, Tony
: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 4:29 PM To: Joe Subich,W4TV; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter plots Have you refreshed your page? -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com Sent: Sep 2, 2014 12:39 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re

[Elecraft] K3 Filter Presets for Data A Mode

2014-04-24 Thread Ron Schwartz
I would like to set one of the filter presets (I/II) to full width for working digital contacts using Data A mode. However it seems that the presets are being narrowed back down after switching between modes and/or bands. Could someone explain why this is happening and am I taking the correct

[Elecraft] K3 Filter question

2014-02-26 Thread Keith Heimbold
I have recently been examining how my K3 filters operate and was curious if I could somehow expand the range I can use my lowest filter which is 250 kHz. It generally cuts out at 300 kHz and then my 1.8 kHz filter takes over. I would like to use the 250 kHz filter up to 400 kHz as I have read

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question

2014-02-26 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Keith, In the K3 utility program, you can change the filter bandwidths to whatever you need. Many ops use this function to set filter switch points that are different than the listed bandwidth. Look under the Configure tab, then push the Configure Crystal Filters radio button. Note that

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question

2014-02-26 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
How do i change the cut out point for this filter? Is this something I can change in the utility program under filter calibration? Yes, set the bandwidth of that slot to 380 or 400 Hz. See the Owner's Manual or K3 Utility help file. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/26/2014 9:28 AM, Keith

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question

2014-02-26 Thread Keith Heimbold
Matt, Thanks, I was hoping that was the case. The 1.8 kHz filter is good for SSB but not exactly what I want at 350 kHz in CW. I think I will set it for 600 kHz and see what happens. I really appreciate your quick response. Keith AK6ZZ Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos On Feb 26,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question

2014-02-26 Thread Keith Heimbold
Thanks Joe for additional clarification will set to 400 kHz. 73, Keith AK6ZZ Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: How do i change the cut out point for this filter? Is this something I can change in the utility

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question

2014-02-26 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Keith, I understand, and I'm running the 250 Hz filters in main and sub receivers at 350 Hz, myself. If you make this type of adjustment, you might want to check the amount of gain for the filter with the changed switch point. It shouldn't be off by much, but worth checking anyway. 73, matt

Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter

2013-05-21 Thread Gary W. Hvizdak
Chris (K4WIN) writes ... I saw your post but the link to the 700 INRAD filter didn't work for me. - Hi Chris, I apologize, but our server just crashed a moment ago. This has been happening a lot recently and typically it's been down for a couple of hours. TNX 73, Gary KI4GGX

[Elecraft] K3 - Filter settings help

2012-11-29 Thread W4GRJ
I installed both AM FM filters and set them up using the K3 utility program, with AM using both filters. When I adjust the filter width on the K3 the max I can get on AM is 5 kHz. On FM it shows N/A. What am I missing ? Jack W4GRJ __

[Elecraft] K3 - Filter setting help

2012-11-29 Thread W4GRJ
I installed both AM FM filters and set them up using the K3 utility program, with AM using both filters. When I adjust the filter width on the K3 the max I can get on AM is 5 kHz. On FM it shows N/A. What am I missing ? Jack W4GRJ __

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter settings help

2012-11-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jack, You are not missing anything. You are seeing the audio bandwidth displayed on the K3. Yes, the audio bandwidth is fixed in FM mode, so if you attempt to change if with the width knob, you will see N/A. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/29/2012 6:03 AM, W4GRJ wrote: I installed both AM FM

[Elecraft] K3 filter WTB

2012-10-31 Thread John Lemay
Morning all A long shot:- does any UK user want to sell me a used roofing CW filter for the K3 ? Prefer 500Hz but open to suggestions. Thanks John G4ZTR __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7644 (20121030) __ The message was checked

Re: [Elecraft] k3 filter install

2012-10-07 Thread Bill Frantz
When I installed the 250Hz 8 pole filter in my minimal K3 (base + K144XV + KXV3A + FM filter), the procedure in the manual appendix A (p77ff) calls for the removal of the K144XV transverter. After looking inside, removing it looked unnecessary, so I proceeded without removing it. I encountered

Re: [Elecraft] k3 filter install

2012-10-06 Thread Mike K8CN
James, The full procedure is a bit long for an email, but please see page 46 in the current version of the K3 Owners Manual, which is available under Manuals and Downloads at the Elecraft web page. All of the filter setup functions are accessed through the CONFIG menus. There are 3 key steps to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-27 Thread Dale Boresz
No, I'm not a human 'Skimmer' -- but I can pick out an individual cw signal within about an 8 KHz span if it's pitch falls somewhere between about 200 Hz and 8 KHz, and can probably 'guestimate' by the pitch, to which signal it corresponds on the P3, and then quickly place my TX signal nearby

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-27 Thread Bill W4ZV
Bruce Beford-2 wrote I would not assume most users prefer this. I have 2.8/1.8 and it suits me just fine, thank you. The 1.8 works well under contest conditions, when needed. I found the 1.8k is too narrow for running stations at high rates (150 per hour) in contests. It's OK when you have

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-27 Thread Edward R Cole
Thanks, Don. I should explain a bit more. In fact I confused running bw down to 2.1 or 1.8 KHz with running the NR function. It is the NR which adds what I termed audio distortion to the signal and not narrowing bw. At least not at 1.8-2.1 KHz. Ringing below 50-Hz makes it

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Stan, Since you have decided to go with the 2.7 filter, you have a couple decisions to make. Do you pay for matched filters between the main and the sub so you can have good diversity reception, or do you cheat and set the filter offsets to the mean of the two filters. At a 2.7 width, the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-27 Thread Stan AE7UT
Thanks for more great info Don. I figure $20 is well spent in just having them match my other 2.7Khz, 5 pole. After reading this through a couple of times and talking with a couple of K3 users I'm going with 2.7 KHz, 5 pole - matched 2.1 KHz, 8 pole 400 Hz, 8 pole 200 Hz, 5 pole - matched

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Edward R Cole
I originally chose the 8-pole filters thinking the steeper skirts would be useful should I ever take the radio into a dense RF environment like it is in the lower-48 states. MY experience with CW indicated 400-Hz was adequate as I could narrow this down with the DSP filter. I chose the 2.8

[Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread William Levy
don't need an AM filter. I have it, don't use it. Waste for me. My 2 cents. Bill N2WL On Sep 26, 2012, at 12:00 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ed, I would think you are hearing the results of a narrow passband rather than DSP audio distortion. I say that because in all cases with the K3, it is the DSP that determines the filter width rather than the roofing filter. What I am saying is that even if you put in a 1.8k filter, SSB at a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Dale Boresz
On 9/26/2012 1:35 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: ... But I learned that audio is limited to 4-KHz regardless of IF filter so I ended up selling the extra 13-KHz filter. ... 73, Ed - KL7UW I really hope that this does not apply to received audio to the headphones or loudspeaker! I just

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sorry, but yes, the K3 audio is limited at 4 kHz, no matter whether it is to the headphones or to the speaker. Please do not shoot the messenger. but that information is in the archives of this reflector in several places - it has been discussed periodically. If you want to lobby for extended

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Dale Boresz
Hello Don, Thanks for the quick response. I was just going through the K3 manual and KE7X's excellent book, but haven't seen any reference to that. For general ham radio operation I don't see it as a limitation, but it's a bit disappointing that the FM filters that will arrive tomorrow along

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
The limit occurs several places ... adjust the HI setting and one will find 4.20 is the maximum available. There is also an analog lowpass filter in the audio (headphone and speaker) between the DAC and the headphone/speaker amplifiers. I'm sure this limitation derives from the roughly 10 KHz

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Dale Boresz
Joe, Good observations, all. I agree that 4.2 KHz is certainly good enough for communications audio. The only reason I had for putting the FM filter in the 2nd receiver was to be able to hear more of the split in a broad pileup situation (like the extremely large split widths that we saw a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Al Lorona
Right, Don! I still believe that many K3 users are under the erroneous impression that the roofing filter determines the receiver bandwidth. It does not. The HI and LO knobs do. The only thing the roofing filter does is determine the MAXIMUM possible bandwidth of the receiver. In 99% of

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
The only reason I had for putting the FM filter in the 2nd receiver was to be able to hear more of the split in a broad pileup situation (like the extremely large split widths that we saw a few months ago with 7O6T), The width of the roofing filter has nothing at all to do with hearing more

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Al Lorona
Another way of looking at it is this: Just because a signal gets inside of your roofing filter doesn't mean squat. If the mixers can handle the signal's level, and the HI LO cut controls can slice off the signal, you won't even know it's there. You simply don't care! The only time this could

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Dale Boresz
Joe, Understood. I wanted to be able to simultaneously hear and see 12 Khz or so of cw signals, thinking that I could more quickly identify the station being worked. For example, if I know the dx station is listening from 14.010 to 14.020 (admittedly pretty wide), I figured I could include

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Gary Gregory
*Al, whilst your statements hold true for you, I DO use the 1.8Khz almost as my default. Attention paid to Hi/Lo gives me nice intelligibility and if you were listening to 3D2C last night on 20M and witnessed the deplorable behavior of stations deliberately providing QRM on their call frequency

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread n0nuf
Hello Stan. I am an avid CW enthusiast and spend 100% of my time, usually around 4-6 hours a night on 20/40m CW. I have 2 identical loaded to the the max K3/100's and P3's purchased late this year. I have been very happy with my filter choices: 1. 13KHz FM 2. 6KHz AM INRAD 3. 2.8KHz INRAD 4.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-26 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
I figured I could include that entire range within the FM filter bandwidth (which I still can do), AND also hear all 10 KHz of those signals (which I've learned I cannot do). Your ears are much better than mine if you can actually copy a full 10 KHz wide audio pile-up. I have enough trouble

[Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-25 Thread Stan AE7UT
I'm asking for a little help with filter choices. I've read all I can on the subject and have come up with what I think is a good choice for me. I'm going to be getting the sub-receiver so I'm going to be getting 2 of each filter. At almost $300 a filter set I would hate to make a choice that I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-25 Thread MontyS
Stan, Your first 3 selections mirror mine. I think you'll find them all useful. I have only the 2.8 and 400 in my second receiver, however, and find that to be good for me. You do not have to install filter pairs for every IF width. Filters are pretty easy to install, so there's no penalty

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-25 Thread Buck - k4ia
You have chosen the bread-and-butter choices. You may find they are all you need. You can add others later, if needed. Could you go with less? Personally, I only use the sub-receiver for chasing split DX. I don't need razor sharp filtering - in fact, I need to hear a broad spectrum so I can

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-25 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
I'm pretty sure about getting the: 2.8 Khz, 8 pole 1.8 Khz, 8 pole 400 Hz, 8 pole I doubt that the difference in performance justifies the upgrade charge for 2.8 vs. the standard 2.7 KHz filters - particularly if one is also getting 2.1 or 1.8 KHz narrow SSB filters. The savings nearly

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-25 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
I sceond Joe's comments. here: 2.7 , 2.1 , 400 and 200 in Main rx; 2.7 , 2.1 and 400 in Sub. 73 Arie PA3A Op 25-9-2012 20:08, Joe Subich, W4TV schreef: I'm pretty sure about getting the: 2.8 Khz, 8 pole 1.8 Khz, 8 pole 400 Hz, 8 pole I doubt that the difference in performance

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-25 Thread VE3GNO Daniel
ae7...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:20:37 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder I'm asking for a little help with filter choices.  I've read all I can on the subject and have come up with what I think is a good choice for me. I'm

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-25 Thread Stan AE7UT
Thanks for all the feed-back. It looks like I'm at least in the right ball park. I definitely want the diversity reception so I'll be doubling most if not all filters. I've decided to stick with the 2.7 for now. I doubt my ears could hear the difference. Interesting that most here have gone

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-25 Thread Bruce Beford
I would not assume most users prefer this. I have 2.8/1.8 and it suits me just fine, thank you. The 1.8 works well under contest conditions, when needed. Remember there is almost always a silent majority. 73, Bruce, N1RX Interesting that most here have gone with the 2.1 vs. the 1.8 KHz

[Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-25 Thread Adrian
Beford Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2012 6:13 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder I would not assume most users prefer this. I have 2.8/1.8 and it suits me just fine, thank you. The 1.8 works well under contest conditions, when needed

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-25 Thread Al Lorona
The subject of extra-narrow SSB bandwidths comes up fairly regularly. These 1.8 kHz (and even 1.5 kHz in use out there) bandwidths are not effective for everybody. The older I get, the less I can tolerate these narrow bandwidths for SSB, even in a contest. They give me listener's fatigue. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
G'day, 2700Hz and 500Hz in both main and sub RX here. Nothing else, not felt the need, however, an FM filter could be added in one RX one day. There have been measurements which show that the 5-pole filters have superior group delay characteristics when compared to the 8-pole. Regards, Mike

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Filter suggestions for new builder

2012-09-25 Thread Fred Jensen
On 9/25/2012 4:22 PM, Mike Harris wrote: 2700Hz and 500Hz in both main and sub RX here. Nothing else, not felt the need, however, an FM filter could be added in one RX one day. The only reason to agonize over roofing filters is, How many strong stations do you have near you? I have the two

[Elecraft] K3 Filter Selection

2012-08-29 Thread Mike Sanders
Greetings, Just got my new K3 options in Monday and had them all installed by Tuesday morning. I installed 3 of the 4 possible optional roofing filters. They have been turned on and the BW set in config. My problem is when I power down the radio they cannot be called up by tapping the XFIL button.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Selection

2012-08-29 Thread Mike Sanders
-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Mike Sanders Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:40 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Selection Greetings, Just got my new K3 options in Monday and had them all installed by Tuesday morning. I installed

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Selection

2012-08-29 Thread Dick Dievendorff
...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Sanders Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:40 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Selection Greetings, Just got my new K3 options in Monday and had them all installed by Tuesday morning. I installed 3 of the 4 possible optional roofing filters

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Selection

2012-08-29 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Sanders Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:40 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Selection Greetings, Just got my new K3 options in Monday and had them all installed by Tuesday morning. I installed

[Elecraft] K3 Filter Settings

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Rieff
I have 2 K-3's in SO2R configuration with a basic 2.7 Khz and 400 hz filters. When listening to RTTY and the filter is wide open there will be a lot of signals. Turning the filter to 400 Hz the signals seem to just about disappear with only the very strong ones audible/visible. Where am I a miss

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Settings

2012-08-10 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Thomas Rieff k0yr...@gmail.com wrote: I have 2 K-3's in SO2R configuration with a basic 2.7 Khz and 400 hz filters. When listening to RTTY and the filter is wide open there will be a lot of signals. Turning the filter to 400 Hz the signals seem to just about

[Elecraft] K3 Filter question… Again?

2012-08-08 Thread Phil Townsend
Why an 8 pole filter OR Why a 5 pole filter? Yeah I know the 5 poles are cheaper... but other than that. Phil Santa Fe __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question. Again?

2012-08-08 Thread N4QS
, 2012 8:12 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question. Again? Why an 8 pole filter OR Why a 5 pole filter? Yeah I know the 5 poles are cheaper... but other than that. Phil Santa Fe __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question Again?

2012-08-08 Thread Matt Zilmer
Those 8-pole filters have steeper skirts. Either the 5- or 8-pole work quite well. I use 5-pole for the narrower filters (250, 500), and the 8-pole for 1.8, 2.8, 13 KHz bandwidths. 73, matt W6NIA K3 #24 On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:12:58 -0600, you wrote: Why an 8 pole filter OR Why a 5 pole

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question Again?

2012-08-08 Thread K4ia
My thought on the 5 pole was that it would give you some protection but because the skirts were not as steep you could hear someone calling you off frequency better. They would be down but not out. The 5's have slightly less insertion loss and are cheaper. On the other hand they need an offset

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question Again?

2012-08-08 Thread Matt Zilmer
Good point. It would depend upon whether or not you'd want to hear someone so far from zero beat. 73, matt On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:38:06 -0400, you wrote: My thought on the 5 pole was that it would give you some protection but because the skirts were not as steep you could hear someone

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter setting changing with modes and LP pan software

2012-03-31 Thread D Joyce
GM Keith: Notwithstanding Joe's comments related to Na3p, I've noticed a K3 software memory problem which may or may not be related. There seems to be two instances of when the K3 appears to loose its mind. (BTW its s/n 2432 using 4.47 and 2.73 FW.) 1st is when I've set up the Norm I and II

[Elecraft] K3 Filter setting changing with modes and LP

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Fjeld
FWIW, I had some goofy things happening like this during a contest. I was having trouble tuning my antenna and thought it was just due to ice on it. After the contest was over, I looked out the window to find part of my loop was laying in the snow. That was causing RF in the shack. I no

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-29 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
Wilhelm Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:46 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions I could take offense at that statement. We each speak from our level of education and information available. I thought we had a technical forum here - there are some asides

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-28 Thread k . igor
degraded the total response in the stop band. 73, Igor, N1YX       - Original Message - From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:33:14 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions On 3/27/2012 11:12 AM, k.i

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