Re: [Elecraft] sidetone problem

2020-07-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Cris, In that case, you have firmware 2.04R which locks the sidetone source at U8-4. Is your K2 Serial number below 3000?  If so you must do the sidetone source wiring changes as shown in the KIO2 or KPA100 manual. If SN3000 or above, you have a problem that needs to be found.  Do you have a

Re: [Elecraft] sidetone problem

2020-07-26 Thread Christophe aufacf
hello sorry for the delay, I didn't have the time, look at the lack of time stl regler 030, I press on display I have U8-4 but impossible to switch to U8-25 thank you for your opinion thank you again for your precious help 73 , Cris F8ACF Le lun. 20 juil. 2020 à 22:56, Don Wilhelm a écrit : >

Re: [Elecraft] sidetone problem

2020-07-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Christophe, You likely do not have the proper sidetone source selected. Go to the STL menu and set the parameter to about 30 - then tap DISPLAY to toggle between U6-25 and U8-4. Stop when you hear sidetone and exit the menu. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/20/2020 3:50 PM, Christophe aufacf wrote: Good

RE: [Elecraft] sidetone range

2008-10-01 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
oe Subich, W4TV > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] sidetone range > > > Dear Joe, > > I do use 740Hz as a work-around. But, for me, the higher the > better. > From F#5 to A5 makes a difference. I'd go even higher than > 880Hz if

Re: [Elecraft] sidetone range

2008-10-01 Thread O. Johns
Dear Joe, I do use 740Hz as a work-around. But, for me, the higher the better. From F#5 to A5 makes a difference. I'd go even higher than 880Hz if there were available consonant tones between 880 and 1000. But 880 is the highest possible with 10Hz increments, provided of course that W

RE: [Elecraft] sidetone range

2008-09-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Why not use 700 Hz - it's less that 2 Hz from F4 (698.45 Hz) ... or 740 Hz (F#5 - 739.99 Hz)? 780 Hz is only 3.99 Hz from G5. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O. Johns > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:34 PM > To: Elec

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-30 Thread Darwin, Keith
-Original Message- >Actually, using >2 knobs makes me feel more like a "real ham radio operator" since I'm >actually using 2 knobs plus my brain to make an adjustment LOL! > >- Keith N1AS - >- K3 711 - Well, Keith... the next thing you will be telling me is you prefer a straight key or

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-30 Thread drewko1
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:16:16 -0700, Keith N1AS wrote: >I don't disagree at all Drew. I would fancy having the RIT / XIT knob >operate as a CW Pitch control so one knob could vary all required >parameters in real time. Until that day comes, I'm thinking I can get >most of the functionality using

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-30 Thread drewko1
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:58:27 -0700, Brett Howard wrote: >I understand that but I'm not so sure that both adjustment while hearing the >pitch and adjustment while hearing a signal is needed. Why not just >adjustment while hearing sigs? > Brett, You got me... if while adjusting the pitch we coul

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-29 Thread Brett Howard
uly 29, 2008 11:18 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:41:24 -0700, Keith N1AS wrote: > > >Which brings us to the "old fashioned" way to adjust the pitch of the RX >signal - RIT. It keeps the TX

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-29 Thread Darwin, Keith
I don't disagree at all Drew. I would fancy having the RIT / XIT knob operate as a CW Pitch control so one knob could vary all required parameters in real time. Until that day comes, I'm thinking I can get most of the functionality using 2 knobs (RIT & Shift). Actually, using 2 knobs makes me fe

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-29 Thread drewko1
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:41:24 -0700, Keith N1AS wrote: > > >Which brings us to the "old fashioned" way to adjust the pitch of the RX >signal - RIT. It keeps the TX on the same frequency and as long as you >don't adjust it too far, the signal will stay in the passband. Better >yet, combine it with

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-29 Thread Brett Howard
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:21 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions Brett, I'm not suggesting that offset pitch and sidetone pitch be different. They are the same. I'm suggesting that sometimes you want to adjust this pitch by l

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-29 Thread Darwin, Keith
-Original Message from Drew, AF2Z - Why would you want to vary the signal pitch? Because a different pitch can provide better copy under different reception condtions. But it's pretty hard to tell what that optimum pitch might be without listening to the signal as you adjust it, right?

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-29 Thread drewko1
Brett, I'm not suggesting that offset pitch and sidetone pitch be different. They are the same. I'm suggesting that sometimes you want to adjust this pitch by listening to the sidetone and sometimes you want to adjust it by listening to the received signal. Currently you can't hear the signal w

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-29 Thread Brett Howard
onality to make it even harder for people to do things right. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:25 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-29 Thread drewko1
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:25 PM >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions > > >> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:21:17 -0500, Nick, WA5BDU wrote: >> >>> >>>Adjust pitch without hearing it?

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread Jon K Hellan
Jim Brown wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:42:17 -0400, n4lq wrote: Using a set of computer speakers which have their own gain control Most speakers with built-in electronics have RFI problems! Indeed they do. If you have a GSM phone, each text message is announced with a "rattle rattle rattl

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread n4lq
eve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:21:17 -0500, Nick, WA5BDU wrote: Adjust pitch without hearing it? I can't

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread drewko1
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:21:17 -0500, Nick, WA5BDU wrote: > >Adjust pitch without hearing it? I can't imagine that. > I wasn't suggesting that the ability to adjust sidetone pitch be eliminated. Merely that we have the additional ability to interactively adjust the pitch of the received signal. Y

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:42:17 -0400, n4lq wrote: >Using a set of computer speakers which have their own gain control Most speakers with built-in electronics have RFI problems! 73, Jim K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread n4lq
ECTED] - Original Message - From: "Nick-WA5BDU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions I hadn't noticed that they didn't track until this thread, so I guess status quo is OK with

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread Nick-WA5BDU
I hadn't noticed that they didn't track until this thread, so I guess status quo is OK with me. Just now, I found that in swapping between speaker and phones, I do not feel the need to adjust the sidetone level. While transmitting ... well, it can be disconcerting to start transmitting full Q

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:03:27 -0700, "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and "forget" it, since we >use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal. > >Whether or not the sidetone level tracks the audio gain is of little >conc

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread drewko1
I've been very happy with the AGC-NR on the K3, so turning off AGC is starting to become a last resort for me. And the configurable AGC parameters give you a lot of options, not "one AGC fits all". (I do adjust the RF gain even with AGC on.) I also give signal reports corresponding to the s-meter

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread K2/100 S/N 838
Dear Ron, Hear ! Hear ! You have said it so very well. My kudos ! TR, WB6TMY At 11:03 AM 7/28/2008 -0700, you wrote: Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and "forget" it, since we use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal. Whether or not the sidetone level track

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and "forget" it, since we use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal. Whether or not the sidetone level tracks the audio gain is of little concern. We turn off the AGC, so its characteristics are of no consequence. We give *real*

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread hank k8dd
ather than have the level controlled by the AF Gain! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions I don't adjust the sidetone level very often. Not sure I'd like

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:16:11 -0600, "Bob Cunnings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Sidetone level should be independently adjustable IMO. > >I use headphones. When operating QSK, if I've run up the AF gain to >hear a weak station, I don't want to be blasted by high sidetone level >when I start sending

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread Brett Howard
ot the way you prefer. ~Brett (KC7OTG) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Childers, N5GE Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:09 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:1

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:16:11 -0600, "Bob Cunnings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Folks, After reading all the posts to date on this topic, I have decided what my opinion is: Go ahead and change it, but if you do, please add another feature that allows myself and others who would surely not like it a

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread n4lq
happy. Oh..heck...I'm already happy but this gives us something to discuss. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Bob Cunnings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [Elecr

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread Bob Cunnings
Sidetone level should be independently adjustable IMO. I use headphones. When operating QSK, if I've run up the AF gain to hear a weak station, I don't want to be blasted by high sidetone level when I start sending, as would be the case if sidetone level tracked the AF gain. I don't want to have

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread Darwin, Keith
nce the AF gain is way up to copy that weak signal. Enjoy your walk. I'm jealous. I have to stay at my desk and keep working ... :-) - Keith N1AS - - K3 711 - -Original Message- From: n4lq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread n4lq
EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Darwin, Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions I too am a CW operator but I greatly prefer the sidetone NOT track with the AF gain control. I w

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread Darwin, Keith
rather than trying to turn the sidetone up. - Keith N1AS - - K3 711 - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John King Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions I have to agree with Steve on this. I'm a CW operator. I

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread John King
I have to agree with Steve on this. I'm a CW operator. I would like to have the sidetone track volume, while still being able to adjust the mix ratio, preferably while working CW. After FD this year one fellow asked me an excellent question: "What don't you like about the K3?" I had been answering

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread n4lq
uly 28, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions I don't adjust the sidetone level very often. Not sure I'd like to have it vary with the AF Gain. I think I like having it as a reference audio level. Mine is set at 25. What I would like is the option to

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread drewko1
I don't adjust the sidetone level very often. Not sure I'd like to have it vary with the AF Gain. I think I like having it as a reference audio level. Mine is set at 25. What I would like is the option to adjust the PITCH without hearing the sidetone. In other words, listening to a weak signal I

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread n4lq
PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions In a recent message, n4lq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they are about the same level. ... Many of us with Omni

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread Jan Erik Holm
n4lq wrote: CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they are about the same level. IMO absolutely not. Sidetone level should have a separate level adjust. 73 Jim SM2EKM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailma

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, n4lq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they are about the same level. ... Many of us with Omni VI's performed a simple mod that allowed sidetone to track with the AF gain. Yes, Steve, but on here we're talking

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions

2008-07-28 Thread n4lq
CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they are about the same level. Why would anyone want a fixed sidetone level? Changing from speaker to headphones requires readjustment of the sidetone level. When the xyl turns on the washing machine, I have to turn up the AF gai

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone in line out connector?

2008-02-23 Thread Tom Hammond
Björn: Has anyone figured out if it is possible to get sidetone routed to the line out connector when keying the radio? It would be handy to hear keying this way too. I am pretty certain that this IS on the list of things to do. I think it is (or must be) a DSP function. 73, Tom Hammond N

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone

2007-10-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Joe, Easy - go into the menu, select ST L, then press EDIT to edit the parameter. Tap DISPLAY to toggle the sidetone source. When you hear sidetone, stop tapping DISPLAY. 73, Don W3FPR Joe Fowler wrote: Well, I did it. While playing with my K2's menu, I killed my sidetone. Any Ideas? Tnx

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone with harmonics at 400 Hz...

2007-08-04 Thread David Cutter
, 2007 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone with harmonics at 400 Hz... I find the square wave character of the stock sidetone quite annoying on my K2 #5004, with the sidetone set at 500 Hz. However I run the audio through a SCAF-1 external audio filter, which makes the sidetone much more of a

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone with harmonics at 400 Hz...

2007-08-04 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
f Rob Locher W7GH Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:59 AM To: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone with harmonics at 400 Hz... Hi Ken, Thanks for the email. I've compared the sidetone from my K2 to the sidetone from several others, and mine is about typical. I don&#x

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone with harmonics at 400 Hz...

2007-08-04 Thread Joseph Trombino Jr
The sidetone mode to the K2 was an improvement but there appears to be an artifact(s) on the tone itself.not quite a thump but something on the sidetone when it is keyed..don't know quite how to describe it but I can hear itbut then I am VERY picky about sidetone purity and thumps an

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone with harmonics at 400 Hz...

2007-08-04 Thread Rob Locher W7GH
Hi Ken, Thanks for the email. I've compared the sidetone from my K2 to the sidetone from several others, and mine is about typical. I don't doubt that my tone would look sinusoidal on a scope, since the harmonics are probably several dB down from the fundamental tone. However, they are there,

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone with harmonics at 400 Hz...

2007-08-04 Thread Ken K3IU
Ho Rob: If you are getting a square wave out of your sidetone, then you probably have a problem someplace. I just put the sidetone from 5413 on the scope and is shows an almost perfect sine wave. 73, Ken Wagner K3IU Rob Locher W7GH wrote: I find the square wave character of the stock sidetone

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone with harmonics at 400 Hz...

2007-08-04 Thread Rob Locher W7GH
I find the square wave character of the stock sidetone quite annoying on my K2 #5004, with the sidetone set at 500 Hz. However I run the audio through a SCAF-1 external audio filter, which makes the sidetone much more of a single tone, and far more pleasant to my ear. The SCAF-1 also eliminates

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone with harmonics at 400 Hz...

2007-08-04 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
The basic issue is that the sidetone is, indeed, a square wave, followed by a filter to reduce the harmonic content. Like most Hams who've been around a number of years, I've listened to every sort of "sidetone" from a sawtooth wave to the squawks and bleats produced by keying a rig with the rece

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone with harmonics at 400 Hz...

2007-08-04 Thread Ken K3IU
Hi Steve: Sometime between s/ns 2888 and 3442 that I built, there was a mod to the sidetone circuit that added on the control board an inductor (now L1 82mH) and a resistor (R11 47K) to "round off" the square wave. I do not know if that was included in the major mod to bring up pre 3000s to the

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone with harmonics at 400 Hz...

2007-08-04 Thread Jim Miller
A pure square wave has only the fundamental and odd harmonics. If the sidetone is produced by passing a squarewave through a multistage low pass filter designed for a higher frequency, a lower sidetone frequency will indeed have a proportionally higher level of odd harmonics present. 73 jim ab

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-12 Thread Thom LaCosta
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Darwin, Keith wrote: In the music field, we use guitar tuners. They tell you if you're sharp of flat. I've often though of using a guitar tuner to tune CW. 622 Hz is an Eb, 659 Hz is an E. Those critters are really usefull...borrowed one last weekend to take to a work

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-12 Thread Darwin, Keith
Tone matching judgment - depending on what you're referring to, nobody has it. Most people can identify which of two tones is higher or lower if they have enough pitch separation. As they get closer in pitch, people's ability to tell high or low (sharp or flat) goes away. At that point you have

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-12 Thread Brett gazdzinski
I find the K2 and other modern rigs hard to zero, as I have NO tone matching judgment. What I do is jump between cw and cw reverse until I cant hear any difference, that sometimes takes some time The homebrew receiver is easy though, I turn the bfo on and adjust the tuning till I get below

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Rick Dettinger
Most modern transceivers, including the Elecraft rigs, have virtually no output within 100 Hz or so of the carrier frequency, thanks to the excellent I.F. filters they use. That makes finding zero beat with the sidetone mandatory to avoid an error or 100 Hz or more in trying to tune onto the othe

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
It's a mistake to think that a tone deaf person has any trouble zero beating. It just isn't so. That's because the frequency of the tones is immaterial. The "trick" is to know how to hear the beat note. One doesn't care what the frequency of the signal is or whether it's any where near the sideto

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Ian Stirling
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 14:25:35 Gary D Krause wrote: > I was just wondering what people prefer. I have used audio zero beating since my first station: separates, an Eddystone EA12 and Yaesu FL-101. And I tune my own pianos. Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 --

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Gary D Krause
Thanks Bill. It's good to know that the K3 will do that. I understand that I am zero beating in both cases. I'm not tone deaf, it's just that it takes me longer to match tones. Usually, by the time I get the tones matched the station I wanted to contact is either gone or in a QSO with anothe

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Jack Smith
My Z100 kit is intended to allow fast matching the incoming signal with the side tone, through 24 LEDs in a spectrum display, 25 Hz per LED, to give you the direction to adjust and the mis-tuning magnitude. Jack K8ZOA www.cliftonlaboratories.com ___

Re: [Elecraft] sidetone

2007-07-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Chris, You have inadvertently changed the sidetone source in the menu. Enter the menu for STL and set the value to about 40, then tap DISPLAY to toggle the sidetone source. When you hear sidetone, stop tapping. The sidetone source selection is intended to support older K2s that do not have

Re: [Elecraft] sidetone mod now works

2007-03-09 Thread Darrell Bellerive
I played a bit with this mod this evening. I can duplicate the results, but I'd like to understand a bit more about this circuit. What is the purpose of RP5 pins 7/8 and pins 9/10? This grounds the audio signal via 940 ohms of resistance. Is this just to provide a DC bias for the electrolytic c

Re: [Elecraft] sidetone mod now works

2007-03-09 Thread G3SJJ
I did the mod recently on my K2/100 serial 5545. It made a big difference and now the sidetone is much more relaxing to listen to. I didn't enjoy txing on the K2 before this. This is what I did : 1 - Remove L1 and C33 2 - Solder a 2.2uF in place of L1 3 - Cut a small piece of holed circuit bo

Re: [Elecraft] sidetone mod now works

2007-03-07 Thread Sverre Holm
> My L1 82 mH inductor has a DC resistance of 62 ohms. This is quite different > from the 180 ohm version used in the mod. Would a series resistor be desired > as Fred indicates in the message below? I have 100 ohm, 120 ohm, and 150 ohm > resistors on hand. Where is this resistor installed betwe

Re: [Elecraft] sidetone mod now works

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Bellerive
I am curious about doing this sidetone mod on a K2 rev B. Elecraft changed the sidetone circuit from serial number 3000 on, and wonder how effective the sidetone mod is on a rev B K2. My K2 is serial # 5093. The mod is described at http://www.raunvis.hi.is/%7Ematti/TF3MA/sidetone_tf3ma.html >F

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone

2007-01-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Paul, If it is not present with the headphones, then yes, it is in the speaker itself - nothing you can do the the K2 circuits will have any effect. You might try an external speaker as a test. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > > > 8R Hold is set on...t-r delay at .005no differenc

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone

2007-01-03 Thread Paul Del Negro
) - if not, that is your first step. 73, Don W3FPR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:48 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Wups! Okay, that exhausts my

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone

2007-01-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
your first step. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:48 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone > > > Wups! Okay,

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone

2007-01-02 Thread Marteinn Sverrisson
Regaring the clicks. -Original Message- I am hesitant to put this question up here because I have seen so many posts about it but here goes anyway. I love my K2 sn 05834 except for one thing...the sidetone. There seems to be excessive thumps (clicks?) on both make and break, especiall

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone

2007-01-02 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Wups! Okay, that exhausts my tiny knowledge of the switching issue! Perhaps Don or one of the other guys here will have some more ideas. Never hesitate to ask - believe it or not, that's what this reflector is for (although at times we wander so far afield one might not realize it, Hi!) Ron AC7AC

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone

2007-01-02 Thread Paul Del Negro
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Sounds like you have t-r in the MENU set to 0.00, Paul. That makes the t/r delay zero so you hear the actual switching going on. Try 0.01 or greater for smooth t/r switching. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I am hesitant to put this question up here because I h

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone

2007-01-02 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Sounds like you have t-r in the MENU set to 0.00, Paul. That makes the t/r delay zero so you hear the actual switching going on. Try 0.01 or greater for smooth t/r switching. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I am hesitant to put this question up here because I have seen so many posts abou

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone volume

2006-12-28 Thread Sverre Holm
> -Original Message- > > The problem with the in-line volume control is that it will > reduce the desired signal also. I believe that is exactly what is needed. The inline volume control will affect both the sidetone level and the audio output just as the suggested modification of t

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone volume

2006-12-28 Thread John R. Lonigro
Bob: One solution might be to set one of your programmable function keys to be sidetone level. At least that would eliminate the problem of going through the menu each time you needed to change it. 73's, John AA0VE Bob Tellefsen wrote: Hi Sverre The problem with the in-line volume control i

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone volume

2006-12-28 Thread Bob Tellefsen
with Attitude - Original Message - From: "Sverre Holm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 5:30 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone volume > > I think you may have hit the nail on the head. I DO have to reduce the > > volume greatly when usin

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone volume

2006-12-27 Thread Sverre Holm
> I think you may have hit the nail on the head. I DO have to reduce the > volume greatly when using the headphones. From my perusal of the schematic > for the K2, it looks like if I changed R36 There isn't really any need to modify resistor values in the K2 to achieve what you want, unless y

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone volume

2006-12-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Fred, R35 and R36 are only in series with the headphones, not the speaker (follow the audio amp output through the switch on the headphone jack to verify). You will have to experiment with the required value - I do not have voltage levels corresponding to the numbers of STL, nor do I have the SPL

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone volume

2006-12-27 Thread Fred Bennett N9TA
Tnx Don I think you may have hit the nail on the head. I DO have to reduce the volume greatly when using the headphones. From my perusal of the schematic for the K2, it looks like if I changed R36 it would change the AF level on both the speaker AND the phones...NOT what I *think* I want. It loo

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone volume

2006-12-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Fred, Since you are reducing the setting of the AF gain control when changing from headphones to the speaker? If so, that is the reason in a 'nutshell' - the level of the sidetone is not controlled by the AF gain. So, if you set the sidetone level to be correct for your speaker volume, then it w

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone source

2006-01-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Peter, Well, if you hear sidetone, you got it right!!! It is no more complex than that, and there should be no uncertainty in your mind. The real problem is that folks don't know where to look first if the sidetone suddenly disappears. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > > Hi Don, > >

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone source

2006-01-23 Thread Peter - PAøPJE
icht - Van: "Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aan: "Bill Coleman N2BC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Verzonden: maandag 23 januari 2006 15:11 Onderwerp: RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone source Bill, The selectable sidetone source is for support of older K2s that have not

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone source

2006-01-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill, The selectable sidetone source is for support of older K2s that have not had the wiring change made for the new sidetone source. It has been a source of confusion many many times and IMHO should be eliminated in the next firmware release (which would require those older K2s to apply the har

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone source

2006-01-23 Thread PAøPJE
Hi Bill, I had this too, once and could not trace fauty parts, so I made a note of all the settings ald did the K2 "Ctrl+Alt+Del" better known as the "456+Power on". I askled Gary AB7BY about this some time ago and this is what he wrote to me: The U8-4 sidetone setting is easy to lose, if y

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone questions -- copy speed vs sidetone pitch

2006-01-16 Thread Vic K2VCO
Sverre Holm wrote: There has been research on the topic of sidetone and level. It concluded with 500 Hz and in some cases even lower tones to be favorable in noise free environments. 40 and 80 signs/minute should be 8 and 16 wpm. Peter Montnemery is SM7CMY and a K2 owner, but I am not sur

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone questions -- copy speed vs sidetone pitch

2006-01-15 Thread Sverre Holm
> -Original Message- > > My question concerns what pitch is easier to copy > when receiving fast cw when no qrm is present. There has been research on the topic of sidetone and level. It concluded with 500 Hz and in some cases even lower tones to be favorable in noise free environment

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone questions -- copy speed vs sidetone pitch

2006-01-15 Thread Fred Jensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyone else experience the "hole"? Yes, I have the same problem, I traced it to some body parts inside my head (YMMV). I have a fairly large hole in my hearing spectrum that extends from about 700 Hz to light. In fact most everything from 350 Hz down to DC is also

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone questions -- copy speed vs sidetone pitch

2006-01-15 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
George, N4YM asked: ...I understand the reason a lower pitch ST would be easier to copy when qrm is present, due to the percentage difference matter. My question concerns what pitch is easier to copy when receiving fast cw when no qrm is present. ... Also, it seems my K2 pitch volumn has a "hole

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone disappeared

2006-01-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jack, Enter the menu for St L - edit the parameter, and tap DISPLAY to toggle the sidetone source - when you hear the sidetone, exit the menu - done. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > > Anyone have any ideas why the sidetone disappeared while I was > going through > the menu to chang

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone disappeared

2006-01-03 Thread David A. Belsley
Jack: I don't have the manual sitting with me, so I can't give exact instructions, but there is a sidetone source item in the menu that you obviously toggled. Check your menu for a sidetone setting, select it. There are two sources for the sidetone that you can select. Select the 'oth

RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone lost on #4913 after installing DSP

2005-10-09 Thread Jess Gypin
Hve you checked to make sure that the side tone chip selection is correct? I had this happen one time when I was troubleshooting a KPA100 problem. I checked the mene selection for the source of the side tone chip and it was set to the wrong one. Jess AE0CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone lost on #4913 after installing DSP

2005-10-09 Thread k4zm
Ken: First I would suggest that you go into the menu and select ST-L and then press the menu button to enter the Menu Edit Function. Then tap the display button until you hear the sidetone. It sounds like your K2 setup has been set to the wrong Sidetone source in the firmware. It should be s