Brilliant Rich, I like it.
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Guessing you would check the serial number first, rear panel AND menu. That
would tell you straight off
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> On 11 Jan 2019, at 18:59, "j...@kk9a.com" wrote:
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> Bad idea. If I purchased a used K3s and received a modified K3 I would be
> most unhappy.
>
> John KK9A
>
>
>
I'd say it is called and "updated K3". The K3S is different and my
understanding is that a K3 can not be updated to be a K3S. All abet
similar, in the end, they are different radios. For that fact alone,
the reason I purchased a K3S and not a K3
73
Bob, K4TAX
What’s an updated K3 to be called?
This is a no-brainer!
You guys love to analyze — even to the point of OT! Analyze this! (Love the
movie!):
My suggestion is: K3U. It is simple, bears nice resemblance to the
manufacturer’s existing model naming scheme.
As an interested but
...and one more think, the ATU bypass relay if I am right ;)
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So. let's call it a K3U... (U for upgrade)... so as to distinguish it from
a K3S.
73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211
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From: Wayne Burdick
To: Jamie WW3S
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2019 10:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
...and
Not quite right. The K2 was first - named after the mountain.
The K1 came later, followed by the KX1.
Then came the K3. The KX3 came after that - then the K3S, and finally,
the KX2.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 1/11/2019 10:56 AM, Don Schroder wrote:
Hi all,
It’s very obvious to me. Elecraft began
Does anyone have an N0SS (SK) K2 amplifier keying board, kit, or completed
kit out there they would be interested in selling? Please contact me off
list. Thanks.
73 Eric WD6DBM
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That one was slow, waist-high, and right over the plate. :-)
73 Eric WD6DBM
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 8:11 AM Don Wilhelm Not quite right. The K2 was first - named after the mountain.
> The K1 came later, followed by the KX1.
> Then came the K3. The KX3 came after that - then the K3S, and
The term 'Vintage' is often used on eBay to impart certain aspects of an item.
A K3S might be 'Modern.'
An updated K3 could be 'Modernized Vintage.'
Dick - KA5KKT
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We could name them like fighter aircraft variants: K3 bis, K3 ter, K3 quater.
wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> On Jan 11, 2019, at 6:17 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>
> Clarification:
>
> The Tentec Omni VI Plus is not the same as the Tentec Omni
JR,
Another approach to help your friend is to buy and install an inexpensive,
simple mixer as he can clearly make use of it now. You can still build a
mixer for the experience. After taking whatever time is necessary for
designing, building, and debugging in your shop you can try it out at
Bad idea. If I purchased a used K3s and received a modified K3 I would be
most unhappy.
John KK9A
Rich k3RWN
I kind of like
K3s (lower case S) is modified K3
K3S (upper case S) is the new radio
Rich
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It should be named "K3CharlieT".
(After ME !)
That way, when I get famous, your descendants can sell it as a valuable
collectable artifact for lots of money, or whatever is used at that time for
bartering.
73, Charlie k3ICH
If you think this is a tad absurd, you're absolutely correct.just
All this is fun and good, but if you are selling it, it needs to be
listed as a K3 SN with the specific upgrades enumerated - so the
buyer knows what he is buying.
I have run into this problem many, many times with the early K2s - they
are listed as being upgraded, only to find out (for
Since you are dead set on building one from scratch, start here.
https://www.google.com/search?q=audio+mixer+circuit
You'll see a lot of four-channel mixers because quad op-amps are cheap, under
$1.
This one has the pots before the op amps.
Page 13 of the PX3 manual says the available span range is 2 kHz to 200 kHz, but I am not able to set my span beyond 100 kHz.
As an example, the top left of the PX3 display reads "3.700.000",
The middle (VFO A) frequency reads "3.747.000", and
The top right reads "3.800.000"
Per the manual, I
Hi all,
It’s very obvious to me. Elecraft began with a K1, then “updated” to a K2
(which I am building). Then they “updated” to a K3, and all the new mods that
go on it. So, it’s very obvious to me, that the new “updated” radio should be
called (ready for this?), THE K4 !
It naturally
Clarification:
The Tentec Omni VI Plus is not the same as the Tentec Omni VI, opt 3.
There is a difference, in model number and performance and features.
Thus from my take, a K3 upgrade is just that, a K3 that has the
recommended factory upgrades installed. And a K3S is a K3S that can
K3A
Mike, W1USN
Si vis pacem, para bellum
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> On Jan 11, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Charlie T wrote:
>
> It should be named "K3CharlieT".
> (After ME !)
> That way, when I get famous, your descendants can sell it as a valuable
> collectable artifact for lots of money, or whatever
K3+
Too many permutations to indicate in a single label. On a resale the buyer can
inquire.
Ted, KN1CBR
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K3+ as the TenTec folks had referred to the Omni 6 with upgrades.
Doug -- KJ0F
On 1/10/2019 8:23 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
Sure. Or maybe the "real" K3S is "Son of K3," while the upgraded model is "Stepson
of K3"?
Back to my lab where I belong
Wayne
N6KR
On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:17 PM,
One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of K3.
I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft reflector
or
other places where the radios are discussed.
I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the following
OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a
serious thing.
Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S. The difference in each radio
can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as
far as options go. That is the bottom line. To me the K3S
Page 25 of the PX3 manual says:
The frequency span shown on the display in fixedtune mode is limited to ±
50 kHz (100 kHz total). If you enter fixed-tune mode with a wider span set,
the span will be reduced automatically to ± 50 kHz.
:-)
Fixed tune mode was a welcome addition a couple of years
Brian,
Thanks!
Mark
WU6R
On Jan 11, 2019, at 10:36 AM, Brian Waterworth
wrote:
Page 25 of the PX3 manual says:
The frequency span shown on the display in fixedtune mode is limited to ± 50
kHz (100 kHz total). If you enter fixed-tune mode with a wider span set, the
span will be reduced
Couldn’t agree more. I’ll wager there is at least one early K3 out there with
a new synthesizer board and none of the published K3 updates installed. Sure
.. it’s “upgraded”, but what is it?
The whole “I have a K3S and you have a mere K3” bit of puffery going around is
just … well … puffery
I had bought ear pad replacement covers for KOSS UR20, UR30 and SB40 that fit
the CM-500 fine. I think they were $9 for a pair. It didn't take long to
replace. It is a little pain getting the three screws lined up to assemble.
73,
N2TK, Tony
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Thanks guys - I wound up with a Koss SB45 headset - seems to work pretty well,
although not as comfortable as the Yamaha.
> On Jan 11, 2019, at 11:08 AM, N2TK, Tony wrote:
>
> I had bought ear pad replacement covers for KOSS UR20, UR30 and SB40 that fit
> the CM-500 fine. I think they were
$5 free shipping direct from Koss, if these are the correct cushions.
https://www.koss.com/accessories/cushions/ur20-ear-cushion
73
Josh W6XU
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> On Jan 11, 2019, at 11:08 AM, N2TK, Tony wrote:
>
> I had bought ear pad replacement covers for KOSS UR20, UR30 and SB40
Yep, it almost as confusing as the progression of the Collins S-Line
receivers, from the 75S-1, 75S-2, 75S-3, 75S-3A, 75S-3B, and finally, the
75S-3C.
Personally, I feel the reason the K3s was not introduced as the K4, is that
they didn't want to make all the K3 owners feel like Icom buyers.
Bernie, AF9US beat me to it. I thought K3U for updated or K3+.
It would only designate it has hdwr updates but not which ones
specifically. If selling, those should be listed by the seller and
clarified whether self-installed or Elecraft-installed, which might
matter to some buyers.
My
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Date: Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: K2/100 for sale
To: Derek Brook
Hi Derek;
This came to Admin. Please post to elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Keith WE6R
On 1/11/2019 10:15 AM, Derek Brook wrote:
I still have it ,because
Except, it doesn’t actually MEAN anything. Unless you’ve been living in a cave
since you bought one, almost every K3 is “upgraded” to some extent. It doesn’t
solve the basic problem — a K3 (or even K3S to a lesser extent) needs to
specify precisely (1) what published mods have been
For those who dwell far to the right of the decimal point (rather than in
caves), I suppose there could be a whole alphabet of suffix designations. My
precise intent was a light-hearted, generic characterization. My K3 (Vintage -
Upgraded) is not currently up for sale.
Dick - KA5KKT
JR - I have a folder of dozens of replies to Elecraft posts that I've never
sent. (I try to exercise discipline so that the moderator doesn't have to slap
me on the hand.) But your reply said *exactly* what a draft that I had written
said. I'm very happy that you expressed the same idea.
If you can find ones that fit, I highly recommend a "Velour" version rather
than the same old thin plastic that will eventually also flake off.
I have three Sony MDR-7506s' and all have Velour pads.
Once you try a set, you'll never want to go back to OEM pads.
73, Charlie k3ICH
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Well, after using those Koss SB45 cans for fifteen minutes - back they go to
Amazon and a brand new pair of Yamaha CM500’s is on it’s way to me. My initial
feeling was that the Koss was a tad tighter, but the more I wore them, the less
comfortable I was with ‘em. I guess that’s the difference
I have a 6xxx K3 (not S). The output of the radio is monitored by an
LP100A wattmeter set to peak reading. The K3 drives an AL80B. I have
just done a TX power calibration. With the K3 power output set to 60
watts and running SSB I will see about 64 watts output but occasionally
see 74 watts
Thanks ALL for the help.
I'm still getting zero audio out of RX I/Q and want to make sure that I have
done my due diligence trying to figure out the issue. I'll have some
adapters on their way later today for the 1/16th inch jack to put headphones
on it that way I don't have to trust that my
Hi all,
I still have a CM-500 sitting here but rarely use it now.
Just before CQWW CW in Nov I purchased an Inrad W1 headset. Outstanding
performance, and 0 fatigue on your ears. While it doesn't claim to be a noise
cancelling headset, with the high kerosene heater noise in my unheated garage
I occasionally see a wee bit of overshoot as seen on my KPA500. I'm
driving it from my K3S at about 20 watts for about 400 watts out on
SSB. Occasionally I'll see a 450 or 500 watt indication on the LED
bargraph. The KPA500 doesn't seem to mind.
If I set the drive power to 20 watts CW mode,
I see TX power overshoot when there is too much audio drive. The 5th bar
should be flashing not solid on the ALC meter. Also, do a TX GAIN
calibration procedure from the K3 Utility.
My KPA500 has endured some massive peak power overshoots without
destruction (1200w) before I readjusted things.
An updated K3? I think they’re called “a keeper.”
Bob Brown, N1CVX
K3 # 327
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Real hams design and build their own radios. :-) (I'm not a real
ham yet.)
73 Bill AE6JV
On 1/11/19 at 11:48 AM, alor...@sbcglobal.net (Al Lorona) wrote:
I built a QRP transceiver totally from scratch last year, and
virtually everybody I told asked me, "Why?" It took me weeks
and weeks and,
Been there, done that. Too smart and too old to do it again. Buying is
better. Operating what one has purchased is more fun. Better yet,
learning to operate what one has purchased is very gratifying.
73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S, P3, KPA500, KAT500
On 1/11/2019 6:42 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
Real
The jack is 3/32 inch or 2.5 mm.
Have you tried connecting the I/Q output to a computer and some SDR software
that actually uses I/Q input?
I don’t think you’ll hear much using phones. Scope should show the signal I
would think.
Be sure to push plug all the way into the hack. It is very
Don,
While perhaps "obvious," the models you describe are not updates of previous
versions in the order as W3FPR pointed out in a subsequent message. Those
radios are very different from each other in many aspects, especially
performance. Although, each is considered by most to be a top
Kevin,
You are unlikely to hear anything from the headphones from that jack.
Feed it into a soundcard and you should see something using a panadapter
application like HDSDR or NaP3.
The RX I/Q output is low level and broadband. It is not suitable for
digital mode software like FlDigi. For
Wayne,
I would like to see an improved Noise Reduction that doesn’t lower the
volume or distort as much. Also the digital mode decode has never really worked
well for me and, yes,
I read the manual about using it. Could you have the digital choices RTTY,
PSK31, etc. instead of the current
It would be really great if the AF gain was automatically to keep the audio
roughly level when NR is engaged. This drives me nuts, always riding the gain
back and forth. I’m sure the gain adjustment would be different for different
conditions, but at least get close.
wunder
K6WRU
Walter
And yet, I have no idea which Elecraft rig you are referring to here.
Drives us K1, K2, KX3 owners crazy.
73 - john - n0hj
On 1/11/2019 9:49 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
It would be really great if the AF gain was automatically to keep the audio
roughly level when NR is engaged. This drives
Last night while operating CWT I ran across a part of the band that changed
the "Phones" audio, has anyone else ran across this issue happening at or
near 7.035323 to 7.035324 is the frequency that does it for me, all of a
sudden I have CW in just one ear instead of two.
Thanks for any help that
I tried with iSDR which is made for iOS, sound card is working, RX I/Q is not
from my radio.
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I will report back after trying some of the I/Q based softwares out there,
however I did try iSDR which is supposed to work with USB sound card, it
didn't work. I'll try the windows based program tomorrow and report back.
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I found the issue, I had dual RX enabled and when you cross the band for the
2nd VFO it goes into stereo one receive in each ear. I've turned that off
and have full stereo in my earphones again with CW.
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