Does anyone have made an audio recording during a contest on a crowded
40m or 20m band that is willing to share? An idea of the filter setup
would be very much appreciated, too.
I know we contacted at least three K3 owners during the ARRL IDXC from
TM9R. Non-NA's ?
73 Nick
Is there a reason why the auto-notch has to be disabled on CW?
There are many times when it is highly desirable to notch strong CW
signals or carriers whilst trying to listen to a weaker DX signal
underneath, but usually at a different pitch.
My previous rig, a Ten-Tec Jupiter, was highly
Ian,
I have a ICOM PRO II that has this feature as well. ICOM did not have AUTO
notch on CW either because the auto could notch out the CW you are receiving.
THe PRO II goes to manual for notching on CW, but is in Auto for SSB. I
think the algorithm changes between modes because of the
Yess...VP6DX nailed on 20m in north part of Norway.
Condx is poor at best and up under the aurora cap things is a bit tricky.
K2 with butternut gp and THP 1.2kfx 600 watt did the trick.
vp6dx was real 329 here , but he sure has good ears.
No ears like elecraft ears.
Tom Arntzen LA1PHA
Mo ,
Many thanks to all who contacted me off-list. As most messages referred to
the same issue, I thought I'd try and explain better why I think auto-notch
on CW can be a useful QRM fighting tool.
The obvious reason for not having auto-notch on CW is either that it notches
out the signal you are
A call for JA only does me no good due to the
different beam heading
to here and
also being vastly outnumbered by JAs.
Isn't getting through a pile-up part of the fun and
challenge of DXing? What fun would it be if VP6DX just
went through a list by calls?
I haven't heard them working the
Ian Greenshields wrote:
Is there a reason why the auto-notch has to be disabled on CW?
Already answered (i.e. sometimes it could eliminate the desired signal!)
There are many times when it is highly desirable to notch strong CW
signals or carriers whilst trying to listen to a weaker DX
I agree Bill, using a narrower DSP width or shifting the PBT is what I use
to push out an offending CW signal. I do use the notch filter (manual) when
I want to listen to CW with a wider DSP filter and eliminate a BC carrier. I
find that it works great in that situation.
I usually work the
Hello everyone,
This is a re-post of a message I wrote last December. Since that time this K2
has been serviced by Don Wilhelm at Elecraft Service. He realigned its filters
and corrected a problem with its TX that I discovered before shipping it to a
potential buyer.
I have one-too-many
K3 - SN000443 (Kit) - Arrived today in Kansas. Ordered June 9, 2007 in
Dallas, Texas. Shipped February 18th, 2008 ... arrive in Kansas at 10:34 a.m.
- February 22, 2008
Lee - K0WA
In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't
have any
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
Being on the edge of a huge salt-water pond gives VP6DX's verticals an
advantage no land lubber can hope for. There's a lot of interaction
between the electromagnetic wave and the earth from a vertical antenna for
many wavelengths from the antennas. Real earth - dirt - is
This just got me thinking... Wouldn't it be possible write instructions to
the auto notch to stay away from a signal right in the centre of the pass
band. It just have to read the pitch setting and don't notch signals there.
At least that would help to remove some of the sporadic tuners that never
Is there an EQP for this year? Last year it was the second weekend
in March, which by my calendar is in two weeks. Nothing on the
website indicates the dates and changes for 2008. Any news?
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Seems like a good programming problem I am not a programmer either, or a
very sloppy oneI hack at programming
The question I have iswhat is zero beat? Yes, I know what the term means,
but I find myself not being zero beat by ear because of impaired hearing. I
like to listen low
On 080222 18:43 , Lee Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the truest sense...zero beat is when you are on the same frequency...but
that is hard to do for some hearing impaired or tone deaf operators.
Lee,
Zero beat would be considered to be whatever side tone pitch value you have
set. Then it
Brett,
The purpose of operating split is to keep the the calling stations
off the DX stations frequency. Given the fact that not all stations
are going to call for the same length of time often the DX station
will answer a station before the rest of the pack is finished calling
making it very
Brett,
Stations work split so that their signal will not be obscured by those
stations calling them. The station calling cq is transmitting on one
frequency and listeing on another. With some transcievers it is
possible to listen on both frequencies simultaneously. However, many
will only
The KPA-100 is sold. Thanks to all who inquired.
73,
Bill
K4DXU
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I've not ever really worked a split DX station and ever since getting the K1
I've been working on building up my CW skills. I've gotten to where I can
get the jist of the info at 14WPM w/ 20WPM char speeds.
I've heard frequencies where it seems like nothing is going on and then all
of the
Hi All,
Ordered June 19, 2007.
Shipped February 20, 2008
Arrived February 21, 2008
Completed to 10W in 10 hours.
1st Q with good friend Mark K4SO on 80 just to see how it sounds, got
thumbs up.
2nd Q was T32OU on 40M CW with 10w, 6000 miles ;) Mojo?
Went to bed at 3AM this morning.
Got
I'll be submitting this the support line, but wanted to know if
anyone else has seen this. In SSB mode, with the headphones on
(plugged in front panel), I turn on the auto-notch. I get the VOX
tripping on and off but when it trips, RX audio starts coming out the
speaker as well as the
Brett,
talking about operating split.
let me recommend a great little book... by an ex neighbor, a fellow
Elecraft owner,
and THE guy who wrote the book on DXing.
The Complete DXer by Bob Locher...w9kni
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/3363
These are the posted CW offsets (in kHz) that VP6DX is using:
CW
160m 1827.3 +7
80m 3502.5 +25
40m 7002.5 +25
30m 10106.5 +7
20m 14002.5 +25
17m 18072.5 +7
15m 21002.5 +25
12m 24892.5 +7
10m 28002.5 +25
6m 50105 +7 501
They change once in a while depending on conditions but they
ED,
Same thing when you engage NR.
NR issue is on the list.
Mark
--- Ed K1EP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll be submitting this the support line, but wanted
to know if
anyone else has seen this. In SSB mode, with the
headphones on
(plugged in front panel), I turn on the auto-notch.
I
On the FT1000, you can have VFO A in your left ear, and VFO B in your
right ear, and vary the amplitude, or weight, of both with a knob
(they call it RF Mix). This is very nice for operating split on 40M,
for example, as a DX station, transmitting around 7075 and listening
in the US phone band, as
Be careful ... the book is likely to infect you with the
DX chasers disease the virus hides in the paper.
73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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To: Brett Howard ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, 22 February, 2008
I first saw a similar problem earlier today when I turned on NR on SSB. To
remedy it I need to increase the NR setting to something like F(2-4)- (1-4).
example - F-1-3 exhibits this problem, but F-4-1 does not exhibit this
problem. I wonder if this is a function of the just released firmware?
I believe the K3 second receiver is required to hear both VFOs at the
same time, but is that variable amplitude between VFOs possible with
the K3?
Each receiver has its own AF Gain control, so you get the same effect.
73,
Lyle KK7P
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Brett:
There are several sensible reasons why a DX station works spilt. When
he makes a call he is likely to receive several (often many)
simultaneous replies, commonly called a pileup.
By asking callers to call UP (you almost never hear DOWN), the
callers are spread out over a range of
The Mojo is in the sea water which has a conductivity
of about 500 millimhos/per meter. The best of soils
are about 30 millimhos/meter and average soil about 5
mmhos/meter. A small island is as near to a perfect
ground plane as you will find.
--- Björn Mohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree!
I've been wondering the same thing. In Sept. I ordered the kit version
to save money. I figured it was worth my while to spend 8 hours and
save $200. At this point, however, I've become rather busy with a silly
photography hobby / business so time is a premium for me. I'm toying
with changing
I bought the modular kit because I'd enjoy building and it saves a
couple hundred bucks!
73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Dave Hachadorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I ordered a K3 (assembled unit) last week, and signed onto
the reflector.
Since then, I've noticed that
I ordered a K3 (assembled unit) last week, and signed onto
the reflector.
Since then, I've noticed that the vast majority of units
being delivered are in kit form. Why is that? To save a
couple hundred bucks? Because people enjoy building their
radios? Or is there some delivery time
Hi Dave
A high percentage of us are dedicated kit builders
and previous Elecraft customers :-)
The K2 was sold as a kit radio, and look how many
have gone out so far, over 6000.
My own feeling is that if I build a radio, if it ever
needs to be worked on, I have no trouble lifting the lid
and
1. Cost since you'll eventually want two. That's
savings pushing $600 (even more with the KRX3).
2. See comments below by N6WG. I've already installed
several mods including two using SMD parts. Eventually
a Service Manual is also promised.
N6WG:
My own feeling is that if I build a
Dave,
Since Elecraft started out as a Kit businessthey ship in each kit a vial of
Elecraft Mojo. Now, this Mojo makes thingswellbetter. This vial of
Mojo is quite concentrated and it only comes in the kit. My K2 still has a lot
of Mojo left in it and I have used very little from
Hi,
Anyone else also having problems with the Microham K3 cable? Mine
does with the line-in line-out jacks, they don't make a good contact.
Is there a difference between 3,5 mm jacks and the US equivalent?
vy 73 Eric PA3CEV
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Bill, NY9H.Bob Locher W9KNI is the authority when it comes to DXing
techniques and
protocols. Please DO NOT buy his book because I don't need the competition.
73, Jerry K3BZ
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We carry 'The Complete DX'er' at Elecraft :-)
See our books order page:
http://www.elecraft.com/books/books.htm
73, Eric WA6HHQ
Bill NY9H wrote:
let me recommend a great little book... by an ex neighbor, a fellow
Elecraft owner,
and THE guy who wrote the book on DXing.
The Complete
One night, 23 January 2008, during a lull in the action on a flight from
Anchorage to Chicago, I tuned the #2 HF radio to 7.012 MHz and heard W9KNI
calling cq dx asia. He was rewarded with quite a run. It was instructive
simply to listen to him in qso with a number of stations during that run. He
Hi Brett:
I've heard frequencies where it seems like nothing is going on and then all
of the sudden 10 stations light up. I'm assuming that this is a split DX
and I'm only hearing half of it.
That's almost certainly what you're hearing... the end that the DX
station is listening to... called
Ordered June 18, 2007.
Shipped February 19, 2008
Arrived February 22, 2008
73,
Steve NN4X
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Which brings us to The Complete DXer. OK, coming from a novice--the sport
of breaking a pile up is listening to the DX, identifying who just got
called, finding that op's frequency, and then learning how the DX is moving
after the contact, and being in the right place so be called next.
The
Please see
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Firmware_problems_known_to_Elec
raft%2C_on_the_list_to_be_fixed
This is a known issue and Elecraft are waiting for Lyle to return from
holiday (hey, they deserve one) to fix it, hopefully won't be long.
73 de M0XDF / K3 #174
On 22/02/2008
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 09:30, Björn Mohr wrote:
This just got me thinking... Wouldn't it be possible write instructions to
the auto notch to stay away from a signal right in the centre of the pass
band. It just have to read the pitch setting and don't notch signals there.
At least that would
Hey Guys,
I have been monitoring this reflector for a couple of months and
listening to everyone rave and/or complain about the K3's. Well, today
was the breaking point. I can't just sit by any more. You guys have
finally gone too far! I picked up the phone and placed my order! I will
be
For verticals there's a 2 or 3-fold effect:
1a vertical over sea water will have very much reduced losses in the
near field, ie close to the antenna so increasing its efficiency, ie raising
the 'power output' compared to a land situation
2the increased conductivity in the far field
How to adjust the Notch on Manual What knob works, etc.?
73Charles Harpole
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Charles,
They make some pretty fantastic hearing aids these days. A pair I priced a
year ago used Bluetooth technology so one device could talk to the other device
this giving very good spacial sound. DSP and Notch Filtering. No Kidding.
You could set them up for stereo, mono, front,
Is there interest among the group for the necessary parts to input a
disciplined 10MHz signal to control frequency? We all know there is a place
holder on the back panel, but Gary just told me there were no plans.
In April Wayne said it was coming but the price hadn't been set.
Just wondering if
I am about to bite the bullet and order a K3. However I am not sure whether
to buy the kit or the K3 ready built.
I did successfully build a K2 some years ago and guess that the K3 build is
very much simpler.
Any comments on potential building pitfalls would be appreciated.
Barry
RTFM! Chas - means Read this from manual being
kind...
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3%20Owners%20Manual%20C1%20sm.pdf
Charles Harpole k4vud at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 22 19:32:36 EST 2008
How to adjust the Notch on Manual What knob works,
etc.?
73Charles Harpole
k4vud at
Is there interest among the group for the necessary parts to input a
disciplined 10MHz signal to control frequency? We all know there is a
place
holder on the back panel, but Gary just told me there were no plans.
I'm really hoping for this option. I use a Hewlett-Packard 58540A GPSDO for
Check out this site. A lot of experienced builders put their comments here
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
73, Mike, N4GW
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To:
Received my K3 today, ordered June 20. Unfortunately, it seems to be missing
some hardware. Most importantly, all the 2D fasteners! (Unless they are
hidden in something other than the RF Misc Bag.) No assembly until I receive
those!
I think that this is the first time I have ever had an Elecraft
From the standpoint of knowing your radio it is not a bad idea to build the
kit. The kit gives you the advantage of knowing where everything is in the
event you might need to pull a board for repair or add an additional
feature. I think the effort in building the kit is minor compared to the
I am too.
Back in April Wayne said:
On Apr 29, 2007, at 3:20 AM, Bryan wrote:
Hi Wayne,
If you use the external 10Mhz signal, does this mean that you don't
need the TCXO ?
Even the standard K3 comes with a TCXO, so you'll always have one.
The external reference option, when plugged
Check out this site. A lot of experienced builders put their comments
here
And from the appearance of the user build experiences, many folks are using
ESD mats for K3 assembly - and to minimize shop rash.
Any recommendations for purchase?
Paul, W9AC
Folks:
This afternoon my line noise was particularly bad, even giving VP6DX a run
for its money on some bands.
Just for the heck of it, I punched [NB] on the K3 and... there was VP6DX,
and... the noise was GONE!!!
This was some of stronger line noise I've had out here (in the sticks) for
quite
There have been quite a few products mentioned in previous threads, and are in
the archives. Examples include Radio Shack and TigerDirect.com.
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And from the appearance of the user build
Remember the guy who took his K2 to the South Pole?
http://www.elecraft.com/PictureGallery/KC4_sign.jpg
Well, here he is, up to something, again:
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2008/02/22/100
Way to go, Jim!
* * *
Steve KZ1X/4
Owner of the World's Most Experienced Elecraft
I stopped by Elecraft HQ today and picked up K3 #476, assembled, with
KXV3, and a 2.1k, 500hz and 200hz filters.
The rig is beautiful and sounds great, and will get a 'trial-by-fire'
next weekend as I break it in - I'll be out at KH6LC for ARRL DX SSB,
single op, all bands.
See you all in the
Jerry,
Missing all of the 2D fasteners would be highly unusual. Please take a
look at all of the other bags to make sure they are not there. Let me
know what you find and I'll make sure we get you anything you need right
away! We want to make your K3 experience as seamless as possible. :-)
Go for the kit! Unless you have eyesight problems or two left thumbs
you should have zero problems following the assembly manual.
I did the math, I saved $370.00 by screwing the thing together myself.
That's enough to pay for three 8-pole filters, or 92.5% of the cost of
the 100W PA.
Well, the other winner is certainly no surprise either! In
the non-PC supported category the winner was non other than
Steve Weber, KD1JV. I suspect there are very few people on
this reflector who are unfamiliar with Steve and his many,
many terrific designs. On the straight QRP reflectors
Now that I have the K3 I'd like to connect it to my GPS Spectracom.
I want to slave it to my shack GPSDO, too -- and will! Some other parts
of the K3 system have a higher priority at present, but given time...
73,
Lyle KK7P
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That's great, just what I want to hear. Just so it's on the road map.
Didn't get that assurance from Gary.
Thanks so much Lyle. We can wait for something good.
73,
Phil K3(352)TUF
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WW2PT wrote:
Go for the kit! Unless you have eyesight problems or two left thumbs
you should have zero problems following the assembly manual.
Having two left feet and being unable to dance as well as two left
thumbs and inept at kits I'm glad to see the option of ready built. :-)
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I just bought the KSDP2 kit but have decided to not
build and install it. Please contact me off list if
you're interested in it.
73,
Dave
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Be a better friend, newshound, and
know-it-all with Yahoo!
With my K3 I have worked VP6DX on all HF bands 160m to
10m SSB and CW. RTTY on 30m and 17m without computer.
Total 20 QSO's. FB expedition and outstanding K3.
I'm sure that there are more operators with K3 that
did the same thing.
Mark WQ7X
I purchased factory built because if my kit had any problems,
shipping it back to the factory would involve
hundreds of usd $$$ and weeks of delay.
Shipping distance from me to factory:
about 12,700 KM. or 7,900 miles or
6,900 nautical miles.
ONE WAY.
The earth is large.Charles Harpole,
Charles, I looked your question up, its on page 23 in the K3 operators manual..
Use the manual button, and VFO_B to adjust.
Hope that helps you some..
73 - Arnie KA0NCR
From: Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Elecraft] Manual Notch on CW?
To: Bj?rn Mohr [EMAIL PROTECTED],
I got a pleasant surprise yesterday when K3 457 arrived. It was ordered
June 13 and I got my Lisa Gram last week end.
It has KAT3, KBPF3, KXV3, 500 hz filter, 2700 hz filter, 6000 hz filter
and the FM filter on back order.
I made a special test on it because I wanted to know how the KPA3
Wow!
I was trying to work the CQ 160 SSB tonight, and the noise level
was such that it just wasn't worth my time to sit there trying to
figure out what I was hearing.
Now desparately looking forward to my K3 (in April?).
73, Bob N6WG
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Paul,
I picked up an ESD mat at Radio Shack. I was a nice
size, had pockets for tools to stay in, the wrist
strap on a coiled cable and a 6 foot or so connection
to ground either via and alligator clip or banana
plug. The biggest problem was remembering to
disconnect the wrist strap ( via a
There is another very good reason for split operation, and I've seen
the VP6DX ops doing this successfully as well.
With, for example, the 20-, 40- and 75/80-meter allocations being
different for hams in the various parts of the world, it's not unusual
at all to see the DX station calling
Steve's kit, called the MMR-40 transceiver, is already available as a
kit at http://www.qrpkits.com through Doug Hendricks.
I'm putting mine together right now! BTW, you can peruse the site,
download the builder's manual, schematic, etc. Nice design. The kit
is more than the $50 limit,
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