Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 - and 50 Hz in Europe?

2010-08-01 Thread Richard Squire - HB9ANM

Hi Wayne and thanks for the info re KPA500 power supply

The toroid transformer in the KPA 500 takes up most of the space available
in the K3-sized cabinet and it is amazing that the developers managed to add
a linear regulator and even a 500W amp etc. – hi!
Now toroids are a bit hard on the inrush current and I guess some
soft-start device has been provided for.
But my main concern is this: Is the toroid rated in such a way that no
saturation/overheating will occur with the European mains frequency of 50Hz?

73
Richard

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Re: [Elecraft] Quick P3 Report

2010-08-01 Thread Doug Turnbull
Oh to wake up on a Sunday morning and be so happy.   My P3 is on order and I
know that it was right to have ordered.   Users are finding the P3 does more
than originally expected and we now have another Elecraft Design Engineer,
N1AL communicating with us!   No wonder there is a growing Elecraft family
of users.

 73 Doug EI2CN


 



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Re: [Elecraft] New 2KW amp from the HB1A folks (YouKits)(Petr Ourednik)

2010-08-01 Thread John Harper
Petr, it seems you're absolutely right. I received email responses from
both YouKits and OM-Power. According to OM-Power, it is a pirated product.

If true, how do they get away with doing business, even on eBay.

John Harper
http://www.ae5x.com/blog



...it looks like a direct copy of the OMPOWER
designs...

This is the exact reason why I will never buy it even if
the price will be just 10% of the original one !
I am not going to support kina rice box copies production !!!

Good luck,

73 - Petr, OK1RP


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 - and 50 Hz in Europe?

2010-08-01 Thread Lyle Johnson

 KPA500 power supply...
 ... Is the toroid rated in such a way that no
 saturation/overheating will occur with the European mains frequency of 50Hz?

The The KPA500 power transformer toroid is rated for operation at 50 Hz 
as well as 60Hz.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] Alignment and Test Part II

2010-08-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Brian,

That is entirely normal.  Which one of the 3 methods mentioned are you 
using to calibrate the 4 MHz reference?
1) Measure the TP3 frequency with an accurate external counter - adjust 
C22 until the K2 display matches the external counter.
2) Listen to the 4 MHz signal with another receiver - tune C22 until 
right on 4 MHz.
3) Just set the C22 trimmer slot to the midpoint.

Actually a better method (greater accuracy) exists - wait until you have 
completed the K2 and you can receive 10 MHz ((or 15 MHz) WWV, then use 
the N6KR method.  You can find the How-To on my website www.w3fpr.com 
article on K2 Dial Calibration.

73,
Don W3FPR

Brian Denley wrote:
 While doing the 4 MHz Oscillator calibration, CAL FCTR shows 12100.10 which 
 seem nominal.  But adjusting C22 doesn't allow me to change it very much at 
 all, maybe a few hundred Hz.  It this normal?
 Thanks for any help.

   
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 #2913 Stuck with MCU L D on the Display

2010-08-01 Thread N8XPQ

Antee,

I had the same thing happen to my original K3 a while back. The awesome tech
support at Elecraft walked through it with me and had a replacement board
KIO3 board shipped out and in my hands in a day or two. I am quite certain
that this will solve your issue as well.

Good luck,

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Re: [Elecraft] New 2KW amp from the HB1A folks (YouKits)(Petr Ourednik)

2010-08-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
How?

Try going to China as an individual company and pursuing a cease and
desist suit.  Or collect infringement damages.  If a government is not
watching your six, it won't happen.  One reason to manufacture in
China is to have control of the clones that are going to be made one
way or another.

You might be able to get it knocked off of eBay, but you'd have to
complain.  Not anybody setting around doing that for you.

73, Guy.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:33 AM, John Harper j...@ae5x.com wrote:
 Petr, it seems you're absolutely right. I received email responses from
 both YouKits and OM-Power. According to OM-Power, it is a pirated product.

 If true, how do they get away with doing business, even on eBay.

 John Harper
 http://www.ae5x.com/blog



...it looks like a direct copy of the OMPOWER
designs...

This is the exact reason why I will never buy it even if
the price will be just 10% of the original one !
I am not going to support kina rice box copies production !!!

Good luck,

73 - Petr, OK1RP


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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2010-08-01 Thread n6wg
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Re: [Elecraft] Status of the K2 world

2010-08-01 Thread Kevin Cozens
Tim wrote:
I've been away from radio for about 3 years. Am thinking of building 
 another K2, but am wondering if the K2 will be discontinued due to the 
 popularity of the K3.

As long as the K2 continues to sell, and the parts for it are available, 
Elecraft won't have any reason to discontinue it (unless they create 
something like a K2 Mark II to replace it).

I haven't priced the K2 and K3 recently but based on the last time I 
checked it out, a K2 with 100 watt output is about half the price of what 
it would cost (about $4000) to get a K3 with the features I would want. If 
I wanted all the K3 options the price goes up even more. I'm not active 
enough, or have enough disposable cash, to justify spending that kind of 
money on a K3 so I'm perfectly happy to keep my K2.
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[Elecraft] headphones in phone jack makes meter go up ...

2010-08-01 Thread ny9h
when i plug in the phones ...front panel the s meter goes up to 40 over 

previous owner had plug and jack behind mic jack misaligned 
causing other issues with the phone jack being plugged inno audio out of 
spkr in no: config,,, 

but why the s meter action ???/ 


otherwise seems ok.. 

bill 
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[Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread Bill Henderson

Why is everyone so keen to be at the head of the queue? Surely it would be
more sensible to wait until the inevitable teething problems have been
identified and overcome.

I've ordered mine.

Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] New 2KW amp from the HB1A folks (YouKits)(PetrOurednik)

2010-08-01 Thread Tom W8JI
Anyone interested in electonics manufacturing should get a copy of

Curtis, Philip J., The Fall of the U.S. Consumer Electronics Industry: An 
American Trade Tragedy.

It has been known for a long time in the manufacturing industry that even if 
a manufacturer pays tooling and setup charges to have something manufactured 
in Asia, there is a very good chance the same product or component will be 
offered for sale direct through other channels. I have seen tooling paid for 
by US companies be used to make products that directly compete with the 
products that were tooled! Nothing can be done.

The USA never has enforced any protection for manufacturers here, including 
dumping and patent infringement. That's really why we lost the consumer 
electronics industry in the 80's. Our government, at least since the 70's 
and especially 80's, has never considered manufacturing more important than 
short term money. Zenith and others won lawsuits for dumping, but our own 
government fought tooth and nail to prevent and delay enforcement.

If we want to see what manufacturing we have left survive, we would have to 
change the attidudes of our consumers and our own government. Otherwise we 
just accept the fact that products can freely get ripped off.

I expect to see more and more of this in the future.

73 Tom 

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Re: [Elecraft] headphones in phone jack makes meter go up ...

2010-08-01 Thread Duncan Carter
I'm in process of slowly troubleshooting the same problem.  One thing 
I've found is that there are intermittent ground resistance issues 
between the front panel grounds and rear panel grounds.  I also had the 
problem of intermittent HI RFI indications and perhaps, because of the 
same problem, I have noise from other sources coupled to the line out 
and other rear panel audio jacks. 

Dunc, W5DC

n...@comcast.net wrote:
 when i plug in the phones ...front panel the s meter goes up to 40 
 over 

 previous owner had plug and jack behind mic jack misaligned 
 causing other issues with the phone jack being plugged inno audio out of 
 spkr in no: config,,, 

 but why the s meter action ???/ 


 otherwise seems ok.. 

 bill 
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[Elecraft] Attn Lyle KK7P

2010-08-01 Thread Dave G.
Hi Lyle,

Sent you an email off list...
did you get it?

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DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread Duncan Carter
I'm not keen to be at the head of the queue for the same reasons plus 
the P500 is a higher priority for me.  I'd also like to know what other 
features will be implemented.

Dunc, W5DC

Bill Henderson wrote:
 Why is everyone so keen to be at the head of the queue? Surely it would be
 more sensible to wait until the inevitable teething problems have been
 identified and overcome.

 I've ordered mine.

 Bill
 GM0VIT
   

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread Fred Atchley
Bill wrote: Why is everyone so keen to be at the head of the queue? Surely
it would be more sensible to wait until the inevitable teething problems
have been identified and overcome.

End snip

 

Waiting is not one of my strong suits. Actually I have been waiting since I
first saw the P3 at the Santa Barbara Hamfest in August of last year. This
leaves me to believe that the guys at Elecraft have teethed the living
daylights out of it. I have the kit K3 and ordered the P3 kit, so I'm very
comfortable with updates. Besides, I need a little air time to make the most
of the P3 during the upcoming California QSO party which is the 1st weekend
of October.

 

73, Fred, AE6IC, K3#2241

 

 Do or Do-not. There is no 'Try'... ~ Yoda

 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread Bob Garceau
I'll second that.

Bob, W1EQ, #4199 K3

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Bill wrote: Why is everyone so keen to be at the head of the queue? Surely
it would be more sensible to wait until the inevitable teething problems
have been identified and overcome.

End snip

 

 

 Do or Do-not. There is no 'Try'... ~ Yoda

 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
 This
 leaves me to believe that the guys at Elecraft have teethed the living
 daylights out of it. I have the kit K3 and ordered the P3 kit, so I'm very
 comfortable with updates.

There is a point where the imagination of the designers and primary
testers is exhausted (HOWEVER productive that may have been) and only
real customers in all their gawd-awful varying circumstances can come
up with the typical breadth of complaints from the inane to wanting
new features.  This secondary phase and their positive and imaginative
response to it (often omitted by Yakencom development) is what has
made Elecraft into what it is today.

So there is some sense to waiting out the secondary phase.  With this
company the product on the other side of the secondary development
will be quite keen and effectively engineered by the masses for the
masses.

But I'm not sure I can wait it out either

73, Guy.
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Re: [Elecraft] headphones in phone jack makes meter go up ...

2010-08-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Is this a K3 or a K2?

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Duncan Carter d...@vibrotek.com wrote:
 I'm in process of slowly troubleshooting the same problem.  One thing
 I've found is that there are intermittent ground resistance issues
 between the front panel grounds and rear panel grounds.  I also had the
 problem of intermittent HI RFI indications and perhaps, because of the
 same problem, I have noise from other sources coupled to the line out
 and other rear panel audio jacks.

 Dunc, W5DC

 n...@comcast.net wrote:
 when i plug in the phones ...front panel the s meter goes up to 40 
 over

 previous owner had plug and jack behind mic jack misaligned
 causing other issues with the phone jack being plugged inno audio out of 
 spkr in no: config,,,

 but why the s meter action ???/


 otherwise seems ok..

 bill
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Re: [Elecraft] headphones in phone jack makes meter go up ...

2010-08-01 Thread Duncan Carter
K3, S/N 3543 with a recently exchanged dsp board.

Dunc, W5DC

Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 Is this a K3 or a K2?

 On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Duncan Carter d...@vibrotek.com wrote:
   
 I'm in process of slowly troubleshooting the same problem.  One thing
 I've found is that there are intermittent ground resistance issues
 between the front panel grounds and rear panel grounds.  I also had the
 problem of intermittent HI RFI indications and perhaps, because of the
 same problem, I have noise from other sources coupled to the line out
 and other rear panel audio jacks.

 Dunc, W5DC

 n...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 when i plug in the phones ...front panel the s meter goes up to 40 
 over

 previous owner had plug and jack behind mic jack misaligned
 causing other issues with the phone jack being plugged inno audio out 
 of spkr in no: config,,,

 but why the s meter action ???/


 otherwise seems ok..

 bill
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread Phil Hystad
It is the early adopters, those at the front of the queue who help to work out 
those bugs that are part of the teething process for the benefit of those who 
come later.  If it were not for the early adopters, the later group becomes the 
early adopters.

Thank you to the early adopters, you make it a better product for me.

As for me and my shack -- we will be an early adopter.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Aug 1, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Bill Henderson wrote:

 
 Why is everyone so keen to be at the head of the queue? Surely it would be
 more sensible to wait until the inevitable teething problems have been
 identified and overcome.
 
 I've ordered mine.
 
 Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] Status of the K2 World

2010-08-01 Thread Eric
My watching of serial numbers indicates very roughly 100 each of K1s and K2s 
are being sold per year, and roughly 1000 K3s.  

There are still many fans of the HW-8, and the K2 is 100 times better (while 
the same size--coincidence?)  I've seen unbuilt HW-8s go for $1000 on Ebay.  
I'll bet the K2 is around for a very, very long time.  It is unbeatable as a 
portable rig imho and a blast to build. 

  You can have mine when you pry my cold, rosin-stained, Kool-Aid splashed 
hands from it!

73

Eric WD6DBM

K3, K2, K1, KX1...and just about everything else   

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread Bruce Beford
Bill, GM0VIT wrote:

 Why is everyone so keen to be at the head of the queue? Surely it would be
 more sensible to wait until the inevitable teething problems have been
 identified and overcome.

Sensible? Perhaps.

However, one of the greatest points of puchasing Elecraft products is the
on-going development that occurs after introduction. Usually, that doesn't
happen at all with the big-box manufacturers. With Elecraft, having an early
unit does not mean that you are stuck with what you bought. Their products
undergo continuous improvement, based on real-world user feedback. I enjoy
being part of that process.

I ordered my K3 before there was such a thing. I waited 9 months for s/n 559
to arrive. (Earlier orders had to wait even longer.) Since then, There have
been several updates and modifications that have come out that make it an
-even better- radio than the one I bought. I have enjoyed performing every
mod, and installing every upgrade. That's just me. Others may feel better
waiting, and getting a later unit. That's fine too. You just miss out on the
early excitement, and all the operating time on the new toy since
introduction. In the Elecraft community, there's room for all. Some of us
enjoy being early adopters. Here, we have learned that that can be a -good-
thing.

Bruce Beford, N1RX
K1, KX1, K2, K3 (and P3)


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Re: [Elecraft] headphones in phone jack makes meter go up ...

2010-08-01 Thread Greg
Is there a chance a pin got bent or misaligned when putting the boards 
back together?

73
Greg
AB7R


On 8/1/2010 10:28 AM, Duncan Carter wrote:
 K3, S/N 3543 with a recently exchanged dsp board.

 Dunc, W5DC

 Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

 Is this a K3 or a K2?

 On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Duncan Carterd...@vibrotek.com  wrote:

  
 I'm in process of slowly troubleshooting the same problem.  One thing
 I've found is that there are intermittent ground resistance issues
 between the front panel grounds and rear panel grounds.  I also had the
 problem of intermittent HI RFI indications and perhaps, because of the
 same problem, I have noise from other sources coupled to the line out
 and other rear panel audio jacks.

 Dunc, W5DC

 n...@comcast.net wrote:


 when i plug in the phones ...front panel the s meter goes up to 40 
 over

 previous owner had plug and jack behind mic jack misaligned
 causing other issues with the phone jack being plugged inno audio out 
 of spkr in no: config,,,

 but why the s meter action ???/


 otherwise seems ok..

 bill
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Re: [Elecraft] headphones in phone jack makes meter go up ...

2010-08-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Was the nut on the headphone jack tightened sufficiently to make the 
washer behind the panel tight?  If not, there is a possibility that the 
board is moving a bit when the headphones are plugged in (or removed) 
and may cause strange happenings.
Squeeze the board and front panel metal together and snug up the 
headphone jack nut to strong finger tightness.

73,
Don W3FPR

Duncan Carter wrote:
 K3, S/N 3543 with a recently exchanged dsp board.

 Dunc, W5DC

 Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
   
 Is this a K3 or a K2?

 On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Duncan Carter d...@vibrotek.com wrote:
   
 
 I'm in process of slowly troubleshooting the same problem.  One thing
 I've found is that there are intermittent ground resistance issues
 between the front panel grounds and rear panel grounds.  I also had the
 problem of intermittent HI RFI indications and perhaps, because of the
 same problem, I have noise from other sources coupled to the line out
 and other rear panel audio jacks.

 Dunc, W5DC

 n...@comcast.net wrote:
 
   
 when i plug in the phones ...front panel the s meter goes up to 40 
 over

 previous owner had plug and jack behind mic jack misaligned
 causing other issues with the phone jack being plugged inno audio out 
 of spkr in no: config,,,

 but why the s meter action ???/


 otherwise seems ok..

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Re: [Elecraft] headphones in phone jack makes meter go up ...

2010-08-01 Thread Duncan Carter
It could but I don't think it's too likely.  As far as misalignment is 
concerned, I think if you don't bend a pin and you carefully line up the 
pins and sockets and if the pins slide into the sockets freely as mine 
did, if there's any mis-alignment, there's a socket issue that's beyond 
my control.

Elecraft has circuit diagrams available on-line and I've spent quite a 
few hours lately studying them.  What I haven't seen are drawing of the 
circuit board traces which are common service information; having trace 
board drawings would really help in troubleshooting the problems.

I could, of course, just send it to Elecraft but that's not very 
appealing to me.  I've been a ham for fifty-five years and build, 
modified, ad repaired my own gear and other peoples.  I've done repairs 
and managed service depots for industrial vibration equipment.  One of 
the things that I've learned that if you send something with 
intermittent problems in for repair without knowing what is really 
wrong, there a good chance that you'll get it back without the problem 
really being cured.  I also have a good collection of test equipment.

Dunc, W5DC

Greg wrote:
 Is there a chance a pin got bent or misaligned when putting the boards 
 back together?

 73
 Greg
 AB7R


 On 8/1/2010 10:28 AM, Duncan Carter wrote:
   
 K3, S/N 3543 with a recently exchanged dsp board.

 Dunc, W5DC

 Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

 
 Is this a K3 or a K2?

 On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Duncan Carterd...@vibrotek.com  wrote:

  
   
 I'm in process of slowly troubleshooting the same problem.  One thing
 I've found is that there are intermittent ground resistance issues
 between the front panel grounds and rear panel grounds.  I also had the
 problem of intermittent HI RFI indications and perhaps, because of the
 same problem, I have noise from other sources coupled to the line out
 and other rear panel audio jacks.

 Dunc, W5DC

 n...@comcast.net wrote:


 
 when i plug in the phones ...front panel the s meter goes up to 40 
 over

 previous owner had plug and jack behind mic jack misaligned
 causing other issues with the phone jack being plugged inno audio out 
 of spkr in no: config,,,

 but why the s meter action ???/


 otherwise seems ok..

 bill
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Re: [Elecraft] headphones in phone jack makes meter go up ...

2010-08-01 Thread Duncan Carter
I did that but it didn't help.

Dunc, W5DC

Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Was the nut on the headphone jack tightened sufficiently to make the 
 washer behind the panel tight?  If not, there is a possibility that 
 the board is moving a bit when the headphones are plugged in (or 
 removed) and may cause strange happenings.
 Squeeze the board and front panel metal together and snug up the 
 headphone jack nut to strong finger tightness.

 73,
 Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] Status of the K2 world

2010-08-01 Thread Doug Person
  I'm on my third K2.  On the previous two I felt I had drifted away 
from radio and I sold them to reinvest the money into other things. On 
my third, last year, I realized that if I do radio at all the only ones 
to use were the K3 and the K2.  I'll let everything else radio related 
go, but these two are just keepers. Right now the K2 is sitting in the 
living room connected to a Buddipole on the deck.  Running 15 watts on 20.

To me, the K2 will be both historic and a classic. 20 years from now, 
people will be looking back at the end of the last century at the K2 
about the same way many of us who are older and licensed in the early 
60's look upon the Drake TR-4c.  I can't think of any transceiver that 
was more popular or more desired by my ham radio peers than the TR-4c.  
I can only hope that it is still in production. Or possibly and 
hopefully moved on to the K2-A or K2-B.  The concept of the radio is 
unmatched anywhere else - a tiny, lightweight radio with performance 
comparable to vastly more expensive products - and you build it yourself 
from a kit. How cool is that?

Doug KØDXV

On 8/1/2010 9:53 AM, Kevin Cozens wrote:
 Tim wrote:
 I've been away from radio for about 3 years. Am thinking of building
 another K2, but am wondering if the K2 will be discontinued due to the
 popularity of the K3.
 As long as the K2 continues to sell, and the parts for it are available,
 Elecraft won't have any reason to discontinue it (unless they create
 something like a K2 Mark II to replace it).

 I haven't priced the K2 and K3 recently but based on the last time I
 checked it out, a K2 with 100 watt output is about half the price of what
 it would cost (about $4000) to get a K3 with the features I would want. If
 I wanted all the K3 options the price goes up even more. I'm not active
 enough, or have enough disposable cash, to justify spending that kind of
 money on a K3 so I'm perfectly happy to keep my K2.
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[Elecraft] KAT3 tuning bandwidth

2010-08-01 Thread Steef PA2A
Hi,

On 80 meters I did some tuning and when I try the SWR about 12 KHz lower the 
tuner produces an extra click and the SWR is terrible again. It seems the tuner 
remembers segments of about 20 KHz.

Is it possible to keep the tuner in its tuned settings so it is not necessary 
to tune the complete band in 10 or 20 KHz steps?

73 's

Steef PA2A, K3 # 4654
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread John
At 11:36 AM 01/08/10, you wrote:
If it were not for the early adopters, the later group becomes the 
early adopters.


I'm not too sure if this is physically possible.

John


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Re: [Elecraft] headphones in phone jack makes meter go up ...

2010-08-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
It may be that the problem is around/related to the RF gain pot.
Check the traces/pins/sockets related to that.   RF gain is a
voltage across a pot, whose wipe, with a percentage of the high side
voltage, is sent to an ADC to generate numerical advice to the MCU for
RF gain.  Anything that shorts or places an existing voltage on the
wipe line other than that from the pot wipe could move the voltage
indicating erroneously that you had set the RF gain back, and would
raise the S meter reading.  Even though this is a digital process, the
analog behavior was retained of setting the S meter to where the
signal would have to be to have signal engage AGC again.

When the defect is in force, does the radio behave as if you had
cranked back the RF gain to the point of showing that same S meter
reading or does it still receive as if the RF gain were at maximum?

73, Guy.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Duncan Carter d...@vibrotek.com wrote:
 I did that but it didn't help.

 Dunc, W5DC

 Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Was the nut on the headphone jack tightened sufficiently to make the
 washer behind the panel tight?  If not, there is a possibility that
 the board is moving a bit when the headphones are plugged in (or
 removed) and may cause strange happenings.
 Squeeze the board and front panel metal together and snug up the
 headphone jack nut to strong finger tightness.

 73,
 Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] headphones in phone jack makes meter go up ...

2010-08-01 Thread ussv dharma
i HAVE had the same problem from day oneI am hesitant about digging into 
the k3 to hold the board while I try to tighten the phone jack.

Is the boat easy to get to?

Seems like a lot of people are reporting this problem.

Susan


If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're 
headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM USSV 
DHARMA 


--- On Sun, 8/1/10, Duncan Carter d...@vibrotek.com wrote:

 From: Duncan Carter d...@vibrotek.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] headphones in phone jack makes meter go up ...
 To: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net
 Cc: Dale Farmer d...@elecraft.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 7:28 AM
 K3, S/N 3543 with a recently
 exchanged dsp board.
 
 Dunc, W5DC
 
 Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
  Is this a K3 or a K2?
 
  On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Duncan Carter d...@vibrotek.com
 wrote:
    
  I'm in process of slowly troubleshooting the same
 problem.  One thing
  I've found is that there are intermittent ground
 resistance issues
  between the front panel grounds and rear panel
 grounds.  I also had the
  problem of intermittent HI RFI indications and
 perhaps, because of the
  same problem, I have noise from other sources
 coupled to the line out
  and other rear panel audio jacks.
 
  Dunc, W5DC
 
  n...@comcast.net
 wrote:
      
  when i plug in the phones ...front panel
 the s meter goes up to 40 over
 
  previous owner had plug and jack behind mic
 jack misaligned
  causing other issues with the phone jack being
 plugged inno audio out of spkr in no: config,,,
 
  but why the s meter action ???/
 
 
  otherwise seems ok..
 
  bill
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread Phil Hystad
Think of the early adopters as waves if users.  The first wave is defined as 
the early adopters.  But, if the first wave did not exist, the second wave 
becomes the first wave and therefore becomes the early adopters.


On Aug 1, 2010, at 12:22 PM, John wrote:

 At 11:36 AM 01/08/10, you wrote:
 If it were not for the early adopters, the later group becomes the 
 early adopters.
 
 
 I'm not too sure if this is physically possible.
 
 John
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread Phil Hystad
Correction:  ...waves of users


On Aug 1, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

 Think of the early adopters as waves if users.  The first wave is defined as 
 the early adopters.  But, if the first wave did not exist, the second wave 
 becomes the first wave and therefore becomes the early adopters.
 
 
 On Aug 1, 2010, at 12:22 PM, John wrote:
 
 At 11:36 AM 01/08/10, you wrote:
 If it were not for the early adopters, the later group becomes the 
 early adopters.
 
 
 I'm not too sure if this is physically possible.
 
 John
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 tuning bandwidth

2010-08-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
If the feedline antenna combination is such that a 1.5:1 segment is
only 20 kHz wide (a common enough occurrence) then one should take the
time to get tunings up and down.  You can probably do it in a couple
of minutes.  The K3 will shift seamlessly with your operating after
that.  One of the benefits.

73, Guy.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Steef PA2A p...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 Hi,

 On 80 meters I did some tuning and when I try the SWR about 12 KHz lower the 
 tuner produces an extra click and the SWR is terrible again. It seems the 
 tuner remembers segments of about 20 KHz.

 Is it possible to keep the tuner in its tuned settings so it is not necessary 
 to tune the complete band in 10 or 20 KHz steps?

 73 's

 Steef PA2A, K3 # 4654
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Re: [Elecraft] headphones in phone jack makes meter go up ...

2010-08-01 Thread Duncan Carter
That's a good suggestion and it's one that I've considered.  I should 
get back to this on Tuesday when three of my ten grandchildren who have 
been here for alternating weeks this summer are back at home so that 
peace and tranquility have returned here.  With the variations that I 
seen in ground path resistances, a variation in ADC input voltages 
and/or offsets seem quite plausible.

Dunc, W5DC

Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 It may be that the problem is around/related to the RF gain pot.
 Check the traces/pins/sockets related to that.   RF gain is a
 voltage across a pot, whose wipe, with a percentage of the high side
 voltage, is sent to an ADC to generate numerical advice to the MCU for
 RF gain.  Anything that shorts or places an existing voltage on the
 wipe line other than that from the pot wipe could move the voltage
 indicating erroneously that you had set the RF gain back, and would
 raise the S meter reading.  Even though this is a digital process, the
 analog behavior was retained of setting the S meter to where the
 signal would have to be to have signal engage AGC again.

 When the defect is in force, does the radio behave as if you had
 cranked back the RF gain to the point of showing that same S meter
 reading or does it still receive as if the RF gain were at maximum?

 73, Guy.

 On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Duncan Carter d...@vibrotek.com wrote:
   
 I did that but it didn't help.

 Dunc, W5DC

 Don Wilhelm wrote:
 
 Was the nut on the headphone jack tightened sufficiently to make the
 washer behind the panel tight?  If not, there is a possibility that
 the board is moving a bit when the headphones are plugged in (or
 removed) and may cause strange happenings.
 Squeeze the board and front panel metal together and snug up the
 headphone jack nut to strong finger tightness.

 73,
 Don W3FPR
   
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread John
If there isn't a first wave in the first place, there can't possibly 
be a second wave.

Forgive me, it's a slow Sunday. :-)

At 01:34 PM 01/08/10, you wrote:
Think of the early adopters as waves if users.  The first wave is 
defined as the early adopters.  But, if the first wave did not 
exist, the second wave becomes the first wave and therefore becomes 
the early adopters.


On Aug 1, 2010, at 12:22 PM, John wrote:

  At 11:36 AM 01/08/10, you wrote:
  If it were not for the early adopters, the later group becomes the
  early adopters.
 
 
  I'm not too sure if this is physically possible.
 
  John
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread Michael Carter
Being an early adopter of new products has several disadvantages and
advantages.

Advantages:

   - Bragging rights to others who don't jump as quickly as you.
   - Discovery of product capabilities and early start of learning curve.
   - Use and advantage of ownership of tool not available to others.
   - You have another TOY Yea!!

Disadvantages:

   - You get warts and all...
   - High Potential of required firmware/software updates to clear
   operational and functional issues.
   - Possibilities of hardware mods to correct sub-standard performance.

I have done both, personally and professionally and it's palpable as long as
you keep in mind the risk/reward of your decision.

Mike NT5DX

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Bill Henderson b...@brofcally.plus.comwrote:


 Why is everyone so keen to be at the head of the queue? Surely it would be
 more sensible to wait until the inevitable teething problems have been
 identified and overcome.

 I've ordered mine.

 Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Queue

2010-08-01 Thread Phil Hystad
The second wave is the first wave by definition.  Just like solving the 
infinite ladder resistance network problem.


On Aug 1, 2010, at 1:32 PM, John wrote:

 If there isn't a first wave in the first place, there can't possibly 
 be a second wave.
 
 Forgive me, it's a slow Sunday. :-)
 
 At 01:34 PM 01/08/10, you wrote:
 Think of the early adopters as waves if users.  The first wave is 
 defined as the early adopters.  But, if the first wave did not 
 exist, the second wave becomes the first wave and therefore becomes 
 the early adopters.
 
 
 On Aug 1, 2010, at 12:22 PM, John wrote:
 
 At 11:36 AM 01/08/10, you wrote:
 If it were not for the early adopters, the later group becomes the
 early adopters.
 
 
 I'm not too sure if this is physically possible.
 
 John
 
 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net summary, Sunday, 1 Aug 2010

2010-08-01 Thread Augie Gus Hansen
The Elecraft SSB Net held today, Sunday 1 August 2010, had 23 
participants and ran for about 35 minutes. Thanks to all who checked in 
and to those of you who helped with the stations I couldn't copy well. 
Also, thanks to Lyle, who took the time to give a KPA500 overview to 
those requesting it, and demonstrated his prototype version of the amp.

Here's the summary of today's net in CSV format for easy importing to a 
spreadsheet or database if you're so inclined:

Callsign,Name,QTH,Rig,S/N,Notes
VE3QF,Tony,ONT,K3,137,
KK7P,Lyle,WA,K3,3036,Prototype KPA500
AB9V,Mike,IN,K3,398,
WB8ENE,Art,OH,K3,4319,
N9EF,Bob,IL,K3,4411,
W5ION,Doug,TX,K3,2659,
KD0HII,Brian,IA,K3,3672,
W4RKS,Jim,AL,K3,3618,
NZ0P,Bill,KS,K3,1502,
N8PNV,Rick,MI,TS440,,
KI7F,Bill,CO,FT958,,
KF4BY,Stan,SC,K3,3995,
W8YMO,Harry,OH,K3,166,
N3KKM,Bill,NC,K3,4433,
KE5MO,Larry,TX,K3,4499
N1LQ,Dave,MA,K3,371
W0RSR,Mike,CO,K2,5767
AB2TC,Ken,NY,K3,82
K6GC/VE1,Dick,NS,K3,3697
W6GJB,Glen,CA,K3,2854
W6KOW,Dave,OR,K2,5120
VE3YRI/M,Mike,WI,IC7000,
KB0YH,Gus,CO,K3,441

Any errors in the above summary are mine. Please report them to me so 
that I can correct the record.

Phil should be back in the NCS role next week.

73, Gus

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 tuning bandwidth

2010-08-01 Thread Steef PA2A
Guy,

I did another experiment: I tuned on 14.250, 1:1.2 is the result. On 14.240 the 
same tuning values are used and the SWR is still 1:1.2 From 14.239.999 
downwards the SWR is 1:8.3 with other KAT3 parameters. Up to 14.299.999 the SWR 
remains 1:1.3 and from 14.300 it is 1:6.7.

It seems that old KAT3 parameters on other antenna 's are remembered forever. 
After using the K3 at the IOTA last week there has been much tuning and now all 
bands should be retuned.

I don 't like this at all. A new feature would then be to reset the old KAT3 
settings or to 'calibrate' the whole band automatically with the KAT3. And 
after that it is a little step to a complete antenna analyzer feature on the K3 
hi!

73 's Steef PA2A
  - Original Message - 
  From: Guy Olinger K2AV 
  To: Steef PA2A
  Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 9:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 tuning bandwidth


  If the feedline antenna combination is such that a 1.5:1 segment is
  only 20 kHz wide (a common enough occurrence) then one should take the
  time to get tunings up and down.  You can probably do it in a couple
  of minutes.  The K3 will shift seamlessly with your operating after
  that.  One of the benefits.

  73, Guy.
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 tuning bandwidth

2010-08-01 Thread David Cutter
That would be a great advantage.
David
G3UNA



A new feature would then be to reset the old KAT3 settings or to 'calibrate' 
the whole band automatically with the KAT3. And after that it is a little 
step to a complete antenna analyzer feature on the K3 hi!

 73 's Steef PA2A

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 tuning bandwidth

2010-08-01 Thread Mike Short
Perhaps that is something that could be done with the K3 utility? Sorry
Dick... ;)

Mike
AI4NS

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Cutter
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:34 PM
To: Steef PA2A; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 tuning bandwidth

That would be a great advantage.
David
G3UNA



A new feature would then be to reset the old KAT3 settings or to 'calibrate'

the whole band automatically with the KAT3. And after that it is a little 
step to a complete antenna analyzer feature on the K3 hi!

 73 's Steef PA2A

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 tuning bandwidth

2010-08-01 Thread Steef PA2A
Guy,

That works! I thought the tuner remained in the same position because no relay 
clicks were audible when turning the VFO across the band.

73 's Steef PA2A
  - Original Message - 
  From: Guy Olinger K2AV
  To: Steef PA2A
  Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 11:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 tuning bandwidth


  See page 56 in the user manual.  Put the K3 on the band you want to
  clear.  Go to CONFIG:KAT3:LC SET.  Tap CLR.  This should clear the
  memories for that band.
  73, Guy.
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 tuning bandwidth

2010-08-01 Thread Brett Howard
There are several solutions here...

1) Clear the memories for the band.  Enter Config then go to KAT3 and
press CLR.  This will clear your current ATU memories for that band
and 1 tuning will be used across the band but they will continue to be
learned as you tune.
2) Download K3EZ.  This is a simple application which one can find by
doing a search.  This application has a pane that will allow a user to
calibrate the K3 to their antenna on a per band/antenna basis.
3) Manually tune in every ATU window.

The ATU does stay put as you tune the VFO.  Its settings are only
updated when you've crossed memory region boundaries and you transmit.
 As soon as you transmit if you hear a click and the ATU icon flashes
that means that the K3 has recalled a tuning memory for you.

~Brett (N7MG)

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Steef PA2A p...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 Guy,

 That works! I thought the tuner remained in the same position because no 
 relay clicks were audible when turning the VFO across the band.

 73 's Steef PA2A
  - Original Message -
  From: Guy Olinger K2AV
  To: Steef PA2A
  Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 11:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 tuning bandwidth


  See page 56 in the user manual.  Put the K3 on the band you want to
  clear.  Go to CONFIG:KAT3:LC SET.  Tap CLR.  This should clear the
  memories for that band.
  73, Guy.
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[Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...

2010-08-01 Thread Vic K2VCO
I just bought a transformer, primary and secondary both spec'd at 120v. My line 
voltage is 
119.5 -- the secondary voltage is -- get ready -- 148v! The only thing I can 
think of is 
that this is supposed to be the voltage under load. But I didn't think that 
transformers 
were spec'd that way, normally.

It's a good thing I'm not building a helicopter or something.
-- 
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Fresno CA
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[Elecraft] K2 handle and feet.

2010-08-01 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Who is the supplier for the k3 handle and feet? I would like to buy the same
handle type, shorter, for my K2 and the feet to go with it.  My K2 needs to
be more portable.  I don't want to explore other radios when I already own
the finest portable QRP.  I am not interested in the silver insert of the
IC-7000, although price is very nice.

 

Bill

K9YEQ

K2 and KX1 field tester, K3 and modules

 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Questions

2010-08-01 Thread Jim Harris

Thanks Lyle,

Hot Diggidie,..the P3 is going to be some real fun.  
Amazing...amazing   Elecraft products are totally outstanding.  Way 
to go guys at Aptos and where ever else the rest of the crew might be.

CU in the Colorado QSO Party Sept 4th, 2010.

73,  Jim, W0EM




 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:33:51 -0700
 From: k...@wavecable.com
 To: w...@q.com
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Questions
 
 
  ... Elecraft pictures of the P3 with the K3 shows it on the users right 
  side of the radio.
 
 You can place the P3 on either side, your preference.  The supplied 
 cables are long enough to accommodate either placement.
 
  ...Does the P3 have enough resolution on the more narrow bandwidth sweeps 
  to discern separate signals
 
 If the bandwidth is set narrow enough, you can easily see both peaks of 
 an RTTY signal.
 
 73,
 
 L:yle KK7P
 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Questions

2010-08-01 Thread Jim Harris

Andy,

That is good info to know.  That enforces my original thoughts.  Thank you for 
sharing.

CU in the Colorado QSO Party Sept 4th, 2010.

73,  Jim, W0EM




 From: andrewfa...@ymail.com
 To: w...@q.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Questions
 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:10:41 -0700
 
 Jim,
   I can't talk directly about the P3 and RTTY, but in WPX CW, I did use a 
 prototype P3 at P49Y.  Right next to it as the second radio was a 756 Pro2. 
 The display on the P3 had a much finer resolution than the Pro2, which 
 looked smoothed in comparison.  Individual CW sigs were much narrower on 
 the P3.
  73, andy ae6y
 www.arubaqth.com
 
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 From: Jim Harris w...@q.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 1:57 PM
 To: Elecraft Email elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Questions
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Obviously, I'm not a P3 owner but maybe Santa might change that.  Last 
  evening I perused the manual.  This morning I was rambling through how it 
  might be used in conjunction with my K3.  Two questions came to mind that 
  field testers and perhaps others might like to comment on.
 
  My favorite activity in amateur radio is RTTY contesting.  Elecraft 
  pictures of the P3 with the K3 shows it on the users right side of the 
  radio.  My thinking is it might be better on the left side as I use the 
  mouse with my right hand and operate the radio with my left when RTTY 
  contesting.  It would seem the point and click and other functions on the 
  P3 would be better accessed with my left hand than putting the radio on 
  the right side and having to reach across with my left or move my right 
  hand from the mouse to access the functions.  I realize the side is an 
  operators choice (I think) but I'm wondering if anyone has any meaningful 
  experience or thoughts on the subject.
 
  That leads me to my second thought.  My prior experience with a 
  bandscope was with a ProIII.  (It departed the shack several months 
  ago.) To the best of my ability with it there was no way I could discern 
  separate RTTY signals in a contest.  Does the P3 have enough resolution on 
  the more narrow bandwidth sweeps to discern separate signals in a contest 
  or is just a big blurs as the ProIII.  If separate signals are discernible 
  in a contest is it possible to point and click on one with the P3, and 
  perhaps with the AFC in MMTTY enabled, be able to near instantly work that 
  signal?  I realize there are most likely a lot of variables involved but 
  the thought occurred to me the P3 might be able to add a new dimension to 
  RTTY contesting for me and perhaps others.
 
  Perhaps I'm wishing for more than the P3 is capable of but constructive 
  thoughts and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 
  CU in the Colorado QSO Party Sept 4th, 2010.
 
  73,  Jim, W0EM
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...

2010-08-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Don't forget the Mars Surveyor, that crashed because they got the
units of distance mixed up in the programming   Stuff like that
happens.

73, Guy.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote:
 I just bought a transformer, primary and secondary both spec'd at 120v. My 
 line voltage is
 119.5 -- the secondary voltage is -- get ready -- 148v! The only thing I can 
 think of is
 that this is supposed to be the voltage under load. But I didn't think that 
 transformers
 were spec'd that way, normally.

 It's a good thing I'm not building a helicopter or something.
 --
 Vic, K2VCO
 Fresno CA
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[Elecraft] K3 makes K2 obsolete? - don't think so.

2010-08-01 Thread eric manning
TIm said

Can someone tell me if the K2 users, support, and production are all 
still going strong?

Tim, I have both and I don't think the K2 and K3 are competitors; I 
think that they fill different niches in the market.
And, we see plenty of K2 traffic on this reflector.
So I doubt if the K3's success will detract from the value of, or 
support for, the K2.

eric
VA7DZ



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Re: [Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...

2010-08-01 Thread Fred Jensen
Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 Don't forget the Mars Surveyor, that crashed because they got the
 units of distance mixed up in the programming   Stuff like that
 happens.

Transformers [the electrical kind, not the toy kind] have software?

I got about 2 1/2 years at NASA Houston working on Apollo while in the 
USAF.  Much later, when Surveyor had disappeared behind Mars, one of the 
admin people at work stopped me in the hall and said, You must know, 
what happened?  I told her, They shot it down, just like we would 
have.  She kept some distance from me after that.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...

2010-08-01 Thread WILLIS COOKE
You did not have a rectifier and filter on the secondary did you?  The windings 
are specified in AC-RMS and if you measure DC on the secondary or peak AC you 
will get a higher reading.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sun, August 1, 2010 5:24:04 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...

I just bought a transformer, primary and secondary both spec'd at 120v. My line 
voltage is 

119.5 -- the secondary voltage is -- get ready -- 148v! The only thing I can 
think of is 

that this is supposed to be the voltage under load. But I didn't think that 
transformers 

were spec'd that way, normally.

It's a good thing I'm not building a helicopter or something.
-- 
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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[Elecraft] K3 CW bug-ettes

2010-08-01 Thread Gary Hinson

Hi!

I've noticed some weeny bugs - or rather things that don't seem quite right
to me - in K3 firmware v4.03, DVR v1.03:

1.  The new QRQ QSK mode works nicely aside from the known limitation of no
RIT.  However, this limitation still seems to apply when I change from full
break in to semi break in using the band/QSK button.  I have to go into the
menu and de-select the QRQ option as well to get RIT back.  

2.  When in SSB mode, I can send CW just by hitting the paddle but if I
assert the PTT first (e.g. using my footswitch), the rig goes into TX but
won't key.

3.  In SSB mode, if I accidentally hit the DVR voice-box message replay
button twice, or if it bounces, the second replay interrupts the first but
there is an extended silent delay at the end after playing the message,
before the rig drops back to receive.  [In CW mode, the second press chains
another message as expected, but there is no extended hang at the end.]

These are so minor, they hardly qualify as bugs.  Just quirks really.
Features if you will.

73
Gary  ZL2iFB  K3 #2887

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Re: [Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...

2010-08-01 Thread Vic K2VCO
On 8/1/2010 5:36 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrote:
 You did not have a rectifier and filter on the secondary did you?  The
 windings are specified in AC-RMS and if you measure DC on the secondary
 or peak AC you will get a higher reading.

No, I just measured the AC voltage from the transformer. Actually, why I 
noticed was that 
when I DID have it hooked up with a rectifier/filter, the DC output was close 
to 200V!
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW bug-ettes

2010-08-01 Thread Vic K2VCO
On 8/1/2010 5:59 PM, Gary Hinson wrote:

 I've noticed some weeny bugs - or rather things that don't seem quite right
 to me - in K3 firmware v4.03, DVR v1.03:

 1.  The new QRQ QSK mode works nicely aside from the known limitation of no
 RIT.  However, this limitation still seems to apply when I change from full
 break in to semi break in using the band/QSK button.  I have to go into the
 menu and de-select the QRQ option as well to get RIT back.

The QRQ option works in semi-QSK mode as well. It allows you (or some machine!) 
to send 
clean code at higher speeds. I've noticed that without the QRQ option -- even 
in semi-QSK 
mode -- when the speed gets above about 35 wpm it starts to have timing issues. 
After 
about 45, it is really bad. At slower speeds, although it is acceptable, you 
can notice 
the difference.

I assigned the QRQ menu item to one of the PFK's on my K3. It is too much of a 
hassle to 
go to the menu!

I don't use RIT that much, but SPLIT is a necessity for dx pileups. I know 
there is a way 
to operate split with the subreceiver, using VFO B to listen, but I haven't 
been able to 
get used to it.


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Re: [Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...

2010-08-01 Thread ussv dharma
Ok gentlemen, here is your chance to be of service to God, Country, and mainly 
me.

It looks like I will finally get out of KH6 and head for KH3, V7, V73, T32, 5w, 
ETC  come November.

QUESTION:
  this is a solo dxpedition, I am 75 years old.  the antenna farm will most 
likely be vertical and located right at the shore line.

What suggestions do you have for me to construct for antennas?

Susan

If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're 
headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM USSV 
DHARMA 


--- On Sun, 8/1/10, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote:

 From: Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...
 To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 3:47 PM
 On 8/1/2010 5:36 PM, WILLIS COOKE
 wrote:
  You did not have a rectifier and filter on the
 secondary did you?  The
  windings are specified in AC-RMS and if you measure DC
 on the secondary
  or peak AC you will get a higher reading.
 
 No, I just measured the AC voltage from the transformer.
 Actually, why I noticed was that 
 when I DID have it hooked up with a rectifier/filter, the
 DC output was close to 200V!
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 Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...

2010-08-01 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 18:55:03 -0700 (PDT), ussv dharma wrote:

What suggestions do you have for me to construct for antennas?

Hi Susan,

The first, second, and third things you should do is study what George, 
AA7JV, and Tomi (HA7RY) have done on their 2-person DXpeditions to small, 
rare islands. George are extremely resourceful, excellent engineers, and 
great operators. The put out very good signals with minimal equipment, do 
EVERYTHING themselves, and put the 25-person DXpeditions with 6 figure 
budgets to shame. Their logs were in LOTW before they left islands! 

http://www.tx3a.com/

http://vk9gmw.com/gallery.html

There's a lot of detail on these websites. I heard George speak a couple 
of times in Dayton, and had some great conversations with him. He's 
become one of my heroes. 

73, Jim K9YC




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Re: [Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...

2010-08-01 Thread Mike WA8BXN
I've not been on the radio at an ocean beach (but have been to such beaches,
should take a radio next time). Others with experience doing it may have
better answers. I would use a quarter wave vertical suspended from a
fiberglass mast (fishing rod would work depending on the band) with a bit of
wire in the water as radials. From what I have read it works quite well.
When I have been to the coastal ocean I was looking more to do swimming. 
 
If I wanted to play radio I would probably go with 20 M. 16 feet doesn't
take that much of a pole for the vertical. Its not my favorite band because
most of the time I am greatly inland and have the room for lower band
dipoles. DX has never been a special interest for me but on a costal
location could be interesting. 
 
Enjoy what ever you decide to to my friend! 
 
73/72 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW bug-ettes

2010-08-01 Thread WILLIS COOKE
Vic, the method that I use is to tune with the main receiver to find the DX 
transmit freq.  When I have the DX tuned in, I tap the AB button and the SUB 
button then turn up the AF gain on the SUB.  Then I select my transmit
frequency with the main receiver and make my call.  It is very convenient and 
is 
my preferred technique for working split.  If I have to call for a while to 
make 
my contact it lets me listen for other callers with the main receiver and try 
to 
find a good call frequency.  This is my main reason for buying the sub receiver.
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sun, August 1, 2010 8:54:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW bug-ettes

On 8/1/2010 5:59 PM, Gary Hinson wrote:

 I've noticed some weeny bugs - or rather things that don't seem quite right
 to me - in K3 firmware v4.03, DVR v1.03:

 1.  The new QRQ QSK mode works nicely aside from the known limitation of no
 RIT.  However, this limitation still seems to apply when I change from full
 break in to semi break in using the band/QSK button.  I have to go into the
 menu and de-select the QRQ option as well to get RIT back.

The QRQ option works in semi-QSK mode as well. It allows you (or some machine!) 
to send 

clean code at higher speeds. I've noticed that without the QRQ option -- even 
in 
semi-QSK 

mode -- when the speed gets above about 35 wpm it starts to have timing issues. 
After 

about 45, it is really bad. At slower speeds, although it is acceptable, you 
can 
notice 

the difference.

I assigned the QRQ menu item to one of the PFK's on my K3. It is too much of a 
hassle to 

go to the menu!

I don't use RIT that much, but SPLIT is a necessity for dx pileups. I know 
there 
is a way 

to operate split with the subreceiver, using VFO B to listen, but I haven't 
been 
able to 

get used to it.


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Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...

2010-08-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
They get wound with software.  Human beings are in charge of how many
turns on primary and secondary.  1:1 transformers do not occur
naturally in nature.   : )   Guy.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:
 Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 Don't forget the Mars Surveyor, that crashed because they got the
 units of distance mixed up in the programming   Stuff like that
 happens.

 Transformers [the electrical kind, not the toy kind] have software?

 I got about 2 1/2 years at NASA Houston working on Apollo while in the
 USAF.  Much later, when Surveyor had disappeared behind Mars, one of the
 admin people at work stopped me in the hall and said, You must know,
 what happened?  I told her, They shot it down, just like we would
 have.  She kept some distance from me after that.

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
 - www.cqp.org
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for August 1st 2nd, 2010

2010-08-01 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   The nets were interesting tonight.  I had a persistent cough which made it 
difficult to send and receive code.  The more I thought about the cough the 
more I coughed.  So I looked out the window, viewed the very pleasant weather, 
and thought of something else.  Some of the meds assist in the mind body split 
;)  Maybe it was due the simultaneous fever and chills.  Luckily I am getting 
better as time goes by.  Twenty meters was not very productive so I figured 
forty would be better.  No, it was not.  It was not very noisy either which was 
good.  
   I saw a photo of the sun from 2001 in the latest issue of Sky  Telescope.  
If I remember correctly that was during the second peak of the last cycle.  
There sure were a lot of spots!  Maybe someday I can hear the bands during 
those conditions again.  I would like to work some contacts on ten meters too.  
I've had them on six meters and fifteen meters but never once have I landed 
anyone on ten meters.  I'll keep calling CQ and see what happens.

   On to the lists =

  On 14050 kHz at 2200z:
N0TA - John - CO - K3 - 994
K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 686
K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422
W8OV - Dave - TX - K3 - 3139
W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457

  On 7045.5 kHz at z:
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1183
N0TA - John - CO - K3 - 994
K6DGW - Fred - CA - K3 - 642

   I know I was unable to work everyone calling me because I have received 
email from at least one person who tried and failed.  However, I did work 
everyone I could hear.  Nick, WB5BKL, sent me a listing from the reverse beacon 
which showed me getting out.  He was called away due to family matters but 
could have worked me from TX.  I'll keep trying and hope the sun perks up just 
a little more.  Last night I was able to spot the thin triangle created by 
Venus, Saturn, and Mars.  This grouping will grow ever tighter during the first 
week of August.  Keep a look out for it about an hour after the sun sets.  
Venus is easy to spot and then Saturn and Mars pop into view to its upper left. 
 
   Until next week stay well,
  73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 5th Class)

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Re: [Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...

2010-08-01 Thread WILLIS COOKE
Susan, one of the commercial verticals such as an AV-14AVQ or AV-12AVQ mounted 
on a pipe pounded in the sand with a few wire radials will work very well on 
the 
beach.  The take-off over a long expanse of salt water will be great.  Twenty 
in 
the day time will be the best band and forty at night if you want to battle the 
critters.  A 43 ft. vertical would be a little better, but also might be a 
handfull to erect for you without help.  The KAT-3 will tune almost anything. 
Good Luck!
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: ussv dharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com
To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com; Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sun, August 1, 2010 8:55:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Speaking of off-shore manufacture...

Ok gentlemen, here is your chance to be of service to God, Country, and mainly 
me.

It looks like I will finally get out of KH6 and head for KH3, V7, V73, T32, 5w, 
ETC  come November.

QUESTION:
  this is a solo dxpedition, I am 75 years old.  the antenna farm will most 
likely be vertical and located right at the shore line.

What suggestions do you have for me to construct for antennas?

Susan

If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're 
headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM USSV 
DHARMA 


  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW bug-ettes

2010-08-01 Thread Gary Hinson
 The QRQ option works in semi-QSK mode as well. It allows you 
 (or some machine!) to send 
 clean code at higher speeds. I've noticed that without the 
 QRQ option -- even in semi-QSK 
 mode -- when the speed gets above about 35 wpm it starts to 
 have timing issues. After 
 about 45, it is really bad. 

??  I'm surprised to hear that, Vic.  I thought the QRQ+ thing was all about
making the TX-RX changeovers as slick as possible for QSK, so I don't know
how it would affect semi-break-in since the rig is mostly held in TX.  I
seldom send above about 32 or 34wpm though, so perhaps there's some issue at
the high end that I just haven't noticed yet?

73,
Gary  ZL2iFB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW bug-ettes

2010-08-01 Thread Vic K2VCO
It's easy to test. Just program a memory keyer (etc.) and crank up the speed. 
In my 
opinion it has to do with the CPU being busy.

On 8/1/2010 8:12 PM, Gary Hinson wrote:
 The QRQ option works in semi-QSK mode as well. It allows you
 (or some machine!) to send
 clean code at higher speeds. I've noticed that without the
 QRQ option -- even in semi-QSK
 mode -- when the speed gets above about 35 wpm it starts to
 have timing issues. After
 about 45, it is really bad.

 ??  I'm surprised to hear that, Vic.  I thought the QRQ+ thing was all about
 making the TX-RX changeovers as slick as possible for QSK, so I don't know
 how it would affect semi-break-in since the rig is mostly held in TX.  I
 seldom send above about 32 or 34wpm though, so perhaps there's some issue at
 the high end that I just haven't noticed yet?

 73,
 Gary  ZL2iFB

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Re: [Elecraft] Alignment and Test Part II

2010-08-01 Thread Brian Denley
Don:
I used a separate frequency counter but I did struggle with finding a 
suitable probe.  Direct connection seemed to load down the circuit and 
change the frquency slightly.  I ended up using a 10X scope probe.  That 
seemed to work OK.  I have read you writeup of the N6KR procedure and I will 
give bit a try and report back.  Just in case a spent some time calibrating 
a couple of my receivers within a few Hz in case I needed to use that 
method.  It's been  a while since my Tek counter has been calibrated.
Brian
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From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
To: Brian Denley b.den...@comcast.net
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Alignment and Test Part II


 Brian,

 That is entirely normal.  Which one of the 3 methods mentioned are you 
 using to calibrate the 4 MHz reference?
 1) Measure the TP3 frequency with an accurate external counter - adjust 
 C22 until the K2 display matches the external counter.
 2) Listen to the 4 MHz signal with another receiver - tune C22 until right 
 on 4 MHz.
 3) Just set the C22 trimmer slot to the midpoint.

 Actually a better method (greater accuracy) exists - wait until you have 
 completed the K2 and you can receive 10 MHz ((or 15 MHz) WWV, then use the 
 N6KR method.  You can find the How-To on my website www.w3fpr.com 
 article on K2 Dial Calibration.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Brian Denley wrote:
 While doing the 4 MHz Oscillator calibration, CAL FCTR shows 12100.10 
 which seem nominal.  But adjusting C22 doesn't allow me to change it very 
 much at all, maybe a few hundred Hz.  It this normal?
 Thanks for any help.

 

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Re: [Elecraft] New 2KW amp from the HB1A folks (YouKits)(PetrOurednik)

2010-08-01 Thread eric manning
Tom W8JI said:

If we want to see what manufacturing we have left survive

I think you'd d**n well better want to see US manufacturing survive! 

An economy based on the financial products [aka snake oil] produced by
the kids in red suspenders on Wall Street is a house of cards, a recipe 
for disaster.
Nor can it generate enough worthwhile  employment for the population.

Future generations  will look back on the outsourcing of US 
manufacturing jobs, the dismantling of a very large chunk of your 
economy for short-term gain,
and shake their heads in amazement that the perpetrators were allowed to 
get away with it.

And no, it is not off topic for this reflector - Elecraft provides  
proof by example that electronics manufacturing can be done profitably and
well in the US.

eric
VA7DZ

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Re: [Elecraft] Alignment and Test Part II

2010-08-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Brian,
Yes, a 10X probe on the counter may be necessary to prevent loading - 
that depends on the counter and its input impedance..
If you know your counter is accurate, that will got things right on 
frequency, but if you have doubts about the accuracy of your counter, 
use the N6KR method which relies only on the received 'Standard 
Frequency' signal.  All other errors are compensated when using that 
method - it will produce the best dial calibration accuracy that I am 
aware of.

For those who have questions about how to do the :N6KR method, I 
suggest you look at my website article on K3 Dial Calibration 
www.w3fpr.com or search the Elecraft reflector for Wayne's original 
posting of that method.  All I can say is that it works very well, and I 
use it on a daily basis when aligning K2s.

73,
Don W3FPR

Brian Denley wrote:
 Don:
 I used a separate frequency counter but I did struggle with finding a 
 suitable probe.  Direct connection seemed to load down the circuit and 
 change the frquency slightly.  I ended up using a 10X scope probe.  That 
 seemed to work OK.  I have read you writeup of the N6KR procedure and I will 
 give bit a try and report back.  Just in case a spent some time calibrating 
 a couple of my receivers within a few Hz in case I needed to use that 
 method.  It's been  a while since my Tek counter has been calibrated.
 Brian
   

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[Elecraft] [OT] '73' on the waterfall

2010-08-01 Thread Al Lorona
On PSK31 some guys know how to transmit a sequence of tones to write a '73' or 
a 
smiley face on the waterfall. Does anybody here know what software they're 
using 
to do this? IMO it's a little corny, but I am curious.

Al   W6LX
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[Elecraft] antennas for Susan

2010-08-01 Thread eric manning
Susan Said:

the antenna farm will most likely be vertical and located right at the shore 
line.

What suggestions do you have for me to construct for antennas?



I had very good luck with a Force 12 Sigma 5, a CENTRE-FED inductively loaded
short half-wave vertical [i.e.,  a short centre-fed dipole tipped up on one end 
]
on  the Bay of Bengal shoreline. 

It being a centre-fed half-wave, not an end-fed quarter-wave, I didn't have to 
worry about 
an efficient ground-plane,so no lossy radials,  and on the shoreline of salt 
water it really got out.
Very good reports with a K2 at 10w. It also fits into a gym bag.

I think a Caribbean DXpedition also used similar antennas and K2s near salt 
water.

eric
VA7DZ



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