As a follow up it's interesting to speculate where
this Icom-7300 would end up on the Sherwood chart.
And how would it prevail in a strong-signal
environment, like Field Day or an urban area like
the one I'm in? Based on what I've seen it will be
OK for casual operating and SDR "dabbling",
All three are on this Rob Sherwood chart, Curt:
http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
73, Phil W7OX
On 9/3/15 6:19 AM, Curt wrote:
I hadn't been paying too much attention, guess
the K3 has been replaced by the K3S. Owning a
K2/100, am thinking about an "upgrade". Is
there a simple chart
When did this morph into the ICOM reflector ?? Did I not get the memo ???
73, Dick, W1KSZ
On 9/3/2015 7:25 AM, brian wrote:
It is may be time to rethink the display. The functionality added
through the years has resulted in display of certain settings is
pretty obscure (e.g. flashing decimal
Since we're adding our $0.02 I'll add mine as a "soon to be K3S owner".
1. Simple and efficient interface was part of my decision.
2. Although the rig lacks band switches, it has function buttons that
support limited macro's to set band/mode/other which fits 99.99% needs for
anyone who will RTFM
Re my statement "zero info on performance": Has
anyone sorted out performance data from the charts
here:
http://www.icomamerica.com/en/products/amateur/hf/7300/default.aspx
or in the pdf file linked here:
http://www.icomamerica.com/en/downloads/DownloadDetails.aspx?Document=746
It's
I think ICOM is a day late and a dollar short. Yaesu beat them to it
with the FT-991.
I have not found any performance tests on either one of these radios. I
might have to buy one and test it myself.
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> Personally I'm surrounded and use fancy tech all day long. When it's time to
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DITTO!
73, phil, K7PEH
> On Sep 3, 2015, at 7:13 AM, Jerry Moore wrote:
>
> Since we're adding our $0.02 I'll add mine as a "soon
I'll add my $0.02. I'm not a huge fan of touch screen for the same reasons
John mentions. However, I would surely welcome a more modern color screen
on my K3. Maybe even a few programmable touch buttons in a similar fashion
to the buttons across the bottom of the P3.
Hey, we all bought into
Sherwood Engineering test data is available at
http://www.sherweng.com/table.html.
The FT-991 was added back on 8/05. It is way down the list!
73,
Henry - K4TMC
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:25 AM, bs usb wrote:
>
> I think ICOM is a day late and a dollar short. Yaesu beat them
On my reading/research on the 991, It's a good radio but the display/band
doesn't update as quickly or work the same as the P3 BASED ON MY READING.
Jerry
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It is may be time to rethink the display. The functionality added
through the years has resulted in display of certain settings is pretty
obscure (e.g. flashing decimal point is supposed to mean something)
The difficulty may be display size constraints. Lacking a bigger
display, it would
I have RX xFIL set to "normal" in the menu so that the PBT control adjusts
bandwidth. When I use a BW of 1.8 KHz or higher in SSB mode, everything
looks good on a waterfall display. But when I reduce the BW to 1.7 KHz or
lower, a chunk approximately 250 Hz wide and centered at 1500 Hz is removed
The Rob Sherwood chart is sorted by narrow spaced dynamic range (second last
column). K3S is at 107dB, KX is at 104dB, and K2 appears twice, 80dB for the
new model and 70dB for the older model. I presume if you apply the mod kits to
an older model K2, it will bring the performance up near where
On Thu,9/3/2015 9:58 AM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote:
For JT65 100 watts is QRO!;-)
On HF, yes. On 160M, 6M, 2M, or moonbounce, it's QRP. JT65 is a WEAK
SIGNAL mode, NOT a QRP mode. Caps added for emphasis.
73, Jim K9YC
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There is yet another major problem with those touch-screen displays. On
mobile installations, they are very distracting, therefore very
dangerous. If there isn't a labeled button for it, it isn't easy to
use. Also, long presses to activate a function don't always work well
when you are on a
Guess a guy cannot have too many radios. My K3 is enough for me though
73,
Ron, K5HM
k5hm@gmail.com
www.qrz.com/db/k5hm
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Just ordered the KX3!!
I haven't been on the radio for a few years (since the lightning strike)
but I am looking forward to QRP from my work location in EL48oc. Yes, that is
in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico (oil rig).
Thinking about the Super Antenna MP1.
Anybody use this antenna with the
Al,
Yes, but is it a difference you can discern without the use of special
test equipment?
If I can't hear the difference, then there is no difference.
Besides Collins, Heathkit, and Drake were perfectly capable radios. I
expect the 991 is equally capable and it offers as standard features
I own both an "original" K3 and "new" K3S. I would suggest snapping up one of
the several original K3s now going on sale by owners who have upgraded.
Wes N7WS
On 9/3/2015 6:19 AM, Curt wrote:
I hadn't been paying too much attention, guess the K3 has been replaced by the
K3S. Owning a
Simple answer ... provide speech recognition. Lots of cars have it built in.
73, Dick, W1KSZ
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During a normal rag chew after three or four minutes, the temp on my
KPA500 hits 70 degrees and the fans are at full blast. It is difficult
to hear over the fan noise even when using headphones. Running 480 watts
out (verified on a calibrated wattmeter) on 20 meters. SWR is 1.0:1.
Is this
Personally I feel that a touch screen is a must in a "stand alone" (no pc
needed) SDR, as it allows the future development and or creation and use of
soft keys for functions that we may not even think of today. As for the
IC7300, most of the time you will likely be using the most commonly used
ICOM indicates that the IC-7300 Multi-function knob selections are displayed
on the upper right of the screen. That puts them right there next to the
knob to be 'touched.' While I don't have an experienced opinion on touch
screens, I can see the sense of that setup.
I have frequently
My K3S kit is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.
I ordered it from Lisa at the Huntsville Hamfest, but asked her to defer
shipment until I got home.
I also ordered a Flex 6700 at the hamfest.
Nice to know that I will own three of the top four radios in the
Sherwood rankings.
It will be
Oh boy!.8/05 was to mean August 5th. I did not include the year, since
I thought everyone would already know that it is a new rig that came out
this year (2015).
73,
Henry - K4TMC
(crawling back under my rock...)
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Logan Zintsmaster wrote:
Indeed, the FT-991 is on the list, way down toward the bottom, but its
vitals appear to be right in line with those at the top of the list.
Henry Pollock - K4TMC wrote:
Sherwood Engineering test data is available at
http://www.sherweng.com/table.html.
The FT-991 was added back on 8/05. It
If 08/05 means August 2005, the listing is about 10 years too early. The FT
991 just came out.
Logan, KZ6O
> On Sep 3, 2015, at 12:45 PM, bs usb wrote:
>
> Indeed, the FT-991 is on the list, way down toward the bottom, but its vitals
> appear to be right in line with those
Guess I'm not reading the chart the same way you are: I find the 991's specs
(sort of) in line with or even below decades-old rigs on the list from Atlas,
Collins, Drake, Heathkit, and Ten-Tec. There's quite a bit of difference
between the 991 and the top of the list (as in the "3" series
I'm the same way, I work on complex stuff all day as well.
In my other Expensive Hobby I keep a Reef Aquarium. I've seen a lot of gizmos
and gadgets come and go over the yearsand even I fell for a few of them, but
more and more I have come full circle and back to the tried methods and
David, it would depend on your context. For typical, day-to-day operations, I
would say anything over 200 watts is high power. Most contests recognize high
power as anything over 150 watts. If you are a QRPer, anything over 5/10 watts
(CW/SSB) is considered high power.
Personally, if I have my
What do you regard as “high power?” Is our beloved KPA500 at 500 watts a high
power device? Or do you have to have a big Alpha at legal limit?
David Ahrendts davidahren...@me.com
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> On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Ian - Ham wrote:
>
> David, it would depend on your context. For typical, day-to-day operations, I
> would say anything over 200 watts is high power. Most contests recognize high
> power as
On Thu,9/3/2015 11:58 AM, Kyp Normand wrote:
Thinking about the Super Antenna MP1.
Looks like a money sink. The virtue of something like this is
portability for backpacking. Depending on how much freedom of access you
have on the rig, simply rigging a random or resonant wire and using any
I gave the FT-991 a short, intense work out. I was the first buyer from
Ham Radio Outlet. I just sold it. Having spent the last part of my
career as a Usability Engineer - I was not impressed with the FT-991.
Not from a performance stand point and most importantly not from a
usability
Hi Peter,
It is odd that the Weaver mode is used when I "uninstall" the roofing
filters and the display shows it is only using FL1. I just tried enabling
the 8 KHz RX shift, both with and without the roofing filter installed, but
the problem still shows up. I am exiting from the menu and
The speak recognition in my Jeep is more a hindrance than a help.
From: Richard W. Solomon
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Touch-screen displays
Simple answer ... provide speech recognition.
Hi Matt,
Thanks for the suggestion, I was playing around with FSQ digital mode on
14104, 10144 and 7104 USB but couldnt set my bandwidth narrow enough. In
DATA-A I can now make it as narrow as I want.
73, AL VE3RRD
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I think this is Icom's way of dipping their toe in the water and not
upsetting their fan base by introducing an SDR in convention looking
hardware. I am confident that they will be releasing a whole line of
stand alone SDR rigs...
The question will be what quality ADC Icom uses in the front
Major selling point of the IC-7300 overhere in Europe will be it's
inclusion of the 70 MHz band! :-)
73, Olli - DH8BQA
Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de
Am 03.09.2015 um 08:58 schrieb Arie Kleingeld PA3A:
The versatility/flexibility of the K3 is unmatched.
The nice thing
High Power is like beauty it is in the eye of the beholder.
Being an OT'er anything beyond the basic 807 or pair of 6146's is High Power,
So my KPA500 is surely such.
My backup station which is a K2 driving a legal limit Ten Tec Titan sits
unused. Hard to beat the integration in the
Hi Al,
Haven't tried it or observed it but I think that what you see is the switch
to weaver mode demodulating. I thought this would only occurred when the
filter was installed but from your observation I'd say that's not so.
I think what you're seeing is normal. There's an IF shift (or
Yes, but is it a difference you can discern without the use of
special test equipment?
Absolutely! The FT-991 will be much more noisy, suffer much more QRM
from adjacent signals and suffer much more blocking from strong signals
on the other end of the band.
Anyone who has had a K3 and an
Joe,
Thanks for addressing what to me is the core issue
with any rig -- performance. A "bells and
whistles" user interface -- and that can be a
matter of personal preference -- may sell a lot of
rigs, but to me performance is key in selecting a
base station transceiver. I can compromise
+1000
And does this rig have the CAT fix for split?
Original message From: Tony Estep
Date:09/02/2015 5:48 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300
I note that it has only one tuning knob,
The versatility/flexibility of the K3 is unmatched.
The nice thing about the ic7300 is that it uses direct RF sampling,
which is probably the way to go in the future. I'm not sure if the
touchscreen will add real value for operating. I'll have to try.
As I wrote before, I expect that the K4
Hi Wayne,
Thank you for the thoughtful comments on the IC7300.
I am spending some of my retirement in radio astronomy where direct RF
sampling is invading. Radio astronomy is very different from most
communications in that the wider the bandwidth the better.
The only threat to my K3 is the KX3 and
I was at the Tokyo Ham Fair and got to spend a minute or so with one of
the four on display. There was a crowd looking at them. I won't
comment on specs but just give a first impression.
It's smaller than a K3. The front panel does not appear to be
detachable. The display is easy to read. I
Jim beat me to saying it:
Depends on what band, what application you are talking about.
JT65 was created for weak-signal eme (originally) ...and where I use
it 1000w is QRO and 600w is not.
QRP must be used in context of what is being attempted...I ran 150w
on 2m-eme and that is considered
If you are alone on the band, then you probably won't notice any difference.
When the band gets crowded, however, you'll start to deal with QRM. some of
that QRM will be from people transmitting "dirty" signals, but if your receiver
has distortion, some of the "QRM" you hear will be "generated"
Thanks for the explanation, Wayne. Funny thing is
that I never think of the K3 as *functionally* an
SDR radio, I guess because I don't have access to
the I/Q signal -- unless it accessible in some
sneaky way I don't know about. OTOH in principle
it seems one could take the I/Q output of the
If the 991 is so good why did Sherwood rank it below the ancient 706?
Ron
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300
Al,
Yes, but is it a difference you can discern
Hi Phil,
Just to clarify: Both the KX3 and K3/K3S are SDRs. A major difference between
these rigs and something like the IC-7300 or Flex 6xxx series is that our
A-to-D converters (ADCs) are protected from wideband interference by a
narrowband I.F. The K3/K3S uses crystal filters, while the KX3
How is that going to work? Are you commanding the radio or talking to
someone? Doesn't seem simple to me.
73
Fred, AE6QL
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Thanks in advance.
Jerry Moore
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On 09/03/2015 08:01 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
Each to his own, but I find touchscreens to be 'bothersome' - real
buttons with tactile feedback and real knobs do much better for me.
The nice thing about knobs is that over time you develop "muscle memory"
where each one is and how to adjust it.
Alan,
Nobody has said it better.
Elecraft = Knobs R Us
Gary
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On 09/03/2015 08:01 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Each to
I apologize in advance if this is getting far off topic, but there is a blog
that reviews audio equipment purely on the basis of “knob feel”. It is deeply
silly, but you know, I can’t really disagree. There are lame knobs, good knobs,
and great knobs. The feel of a big audio variable
Now that I've had a smartphone for a few years, I can coexist with both
worlds.
But, being an OT, I like my knobs and switches.
Surprisingly, I haven't bought a TS-991.
At the Huntsville Hamfest, I ordered a Flex 6700, as well as a K3S.
As a concession to the knob-twiddler in my personality, I
Yet another reason you should use DATA-A mode for digital modes rather than SSB.
73, Matt VK2RQ
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From: Peter Lambert
Sent: vendredi, septembre 4, 2015 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PBT problem
To: Al Duncan
Exactly
From: Jim Brown
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - High Power?
On Thu,9/3/2015 9:58 AM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote:
> For JT65 100 watts is QRO!;-)
On HF, yes. On 160M, 6M, 2M, or
Each to his own, but I find touchscreens to be 'bothersome' - real
buttons with tactile feedback and real knobs do much better for me.
I have tried tuning with the mouse scrollwheel, but find it cumbersome.
For my radio, give me buttons and knobs - I can do the tuning and button
pushing "by
I hadn't been paying too much attention, guess the K3 has been replaced by
the K3S. Owning a K2/100, am thinking about an "upgrade". Is there a
simple chart comparing the attributes of these three radios? Looking at the
receiver comparison charts on Elecraft site, am not seeing the KX3
I sure hope Elecraft Never goes to touch screens.
It would be a game changer alright, I would not buy it.
From: Doug Person via Elecraft
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net"
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 7:51 PM
Subject: [Elecraft]
While I think touch screen technology is neat, and perhaps faster, my main
complaint is the screen is always filthy with finger oils. Yes I can wipe
it off, but experience with an AVmap GPS, my Galaxy 5, an Ipad and a
Windows 8,1 laptop tells me that touch screen is not always the best
solution.
I'm with Chris. I like knobs too but touch screens are here to stay.
Brian
KB1VBF
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> On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Chris Hallinan wrote:
>
> I'll add my $0.02. I'm not a huge fan of touch screen for the same reasons
> John mentions. However, I would
SAME HERE,
I RUN MY KPA-500 IN FSK AT 270 WATTS OUT INTO A 1:1 SWR AS NCS OF THE RATTS RTTY
NET. DURING THE LONG PREAMBLE AND ENDING MESSAGE MY TEMP GETS UP TO 70 AND
SOMETIMES 73 DEG C. THE FAN ROARS LOUDLY AFTER 70 DEG IS REACHED. I HAVE AN
ADDITIONAL FAN BEHIND THE FAN IN K3 TO ASSIST
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