Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Can we be done with the IC-7300 stuff? After all, this is the Elecraft mail list and I do not think it has anyplace here. Just my opinion. I am sure, somewhere there is a IC-7300 list that will fit your needs. Jim W4ATK On 9/3/2015 3:29 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Yes, but is it a

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Walter Underwood Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:39 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 I apologize in advance if this is getting far off topic, but there is a blog that reviews audio equipment purely on the basis of "

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

No doubt that DSP IF radios with narrow upstream xtal filters should be everyone's first choice today for a do-everything high performance hf radio. The K3S is unbeatable. That being said, my forays into the world of direct sampling DDC/DUC radios suggest that their receivers may have an edge in

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

+1 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Rogers Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 7:37 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 Can we be done with the IC-7300 stuff? After all, this is the Elecraft mail

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

> I agree that the thread is pretty well thrashed, but - > > I do like to hear comparisons of Elecraft equipment with other brands as it > keeps abreast of what's happening out there. Technology is "stampeding > ahead" and all ham gear makers are susceptible to the changing landscape. > > >

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

im Rogers <jim.w4...@gmail.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 Message-ID: <55e98265.8000...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Can we be done with the IC-7300 stuff? After all, this is the Elecraft mail list and I d

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

gt; Sent: ‎5/‎09/‎2015 7:00 AM To: "Edward R Cole" <kl...@acsalaska.net> Cc: "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 > I agree that the thread is pretty well thrashed, but - > > I do like to hear compariso

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

When did this morph into the ICOM reflector ?? Did I not get the memo ??? 73, Dick, W1KSZ On 9/3/2015 7:25 AM, brian wrote: It is may be time to rethink the display. The functionality added through the years has resulted in display of certain settings is pretty obscure (e.g. flashing decimal

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

n.qth.net] On Behalf Of Chris Hallinan Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 9:57 AM To: John Fritze Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 I'll add my $0.02. I'm not a huge fan of touch screen for the same reasons John mentions. However, I would surely welcome a more modern c

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Re my statement "zero info on performance": Has anyone sorted out performance data from the charts here: http://www.icomamerica.com/en/products/amateur/hf/7300/default.aspx or in the pdf file linked here: http://www.icomamerica.com/en/downloads/DownloadDetails.aspx?Document=746 It's

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

I think ICOM is a day late and a dollar short. Yaesu beat them to it with the FT-991. I have not found any performance tests on either one of these radios. I might have to buy one and test it myself. __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

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. Just my $0.02. > > Jer > > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Chris > Hallinan > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 9:57 AM > To: John Fritze > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-730

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

I'll add my $0.02. I'm not a huge fan of touch screen for the same reasons John mentions. However, I would surely welcome a more modern color screen on my K3. Maybe even a few programmable touch buttons in a similar fashion to the buttons across the bottom of the P3. Hey, we all bought into

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Sherwood Engineering test data is available at http://www.sherweng.com/table.html. The FT-991 was added back on 8/05. It is way down the list! 73, Henry - K4TMC On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:25 AM, bs usb wrote: > > I think ICOM is a day late and a dollar short. Yaesu beat them

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

:25 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 I think ICOM is a day late and a dollar short. Yaesu beat them to it with the FT-991. I have not found any performance tests on either one of these radios. I might have to buy one and test it myself

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

It is may be time to rethink the display. The functionality added through the years has resulted in display of certain settings is pretty obscure (e.g. flashing decimal point is supposed to mean something) The difficulty may be display size constraints. Lacking a bigger display, it would

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300/Sherwood ratings

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300/Sherwood ratings My K3S kit is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. I ordered it from Lisa at the Huntsville Hamfest, but asked her to defer shipment until I got home. I also ordered a Flex 6700 at the hamfest. Nice to know that I

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Al, Yes, but is it a difference you can discern without the use of special test equipment? If I can't hear the difference, then there is no difference. Besides Collins, Heathkit, and Drake were perfectly capable radios. I expect the 991 is equally capable and it offers as standard features

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Personally I feel that a touch screen is a must in a "stand alone" (no pc needed) SDR, as it allows the future development and or creation and use of soft keys for functions that we may not even think of today. As for the IC7300, most of the time you will likely be using the most commonly used

[Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 / Elecraft

ICOM indicates that the IC-7300 Multi-function knob selections are displayed on the upper right of the screen. That puts them right there next to the knob to be 'touched.' While I don't have an experienced opinion on touch screens, I can see the sense of that setup. I have frequently

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300/Sherwood ratings

My K3S kit is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. I ordered it from Lisa at the Huntsville Hamfest, but asked her to defer shipment until I got home. I also ordered a Flex 6700 at the hamfest. Nice to know that I will own three of the top four radios in the Sherwood rankings. It will be

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Oh boy!.8/05 was to mean August 5th. I did not include the year, since I thought everyone would already know that it is a new rig that came out this year (2015). 73, Henry - K4TMC (crawling back under my rock...) On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Logan Zintsmaster wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Indeed, the FT-991 is on the list, way down toward the bottom, but its vitals appear to be right in line with those at the top of the list. Henry Pollock - K4TMC wrote: Sherwood Engineering test data is available at http://www.sherweng.com/table.html. The FT-991 was added back on 8/05. It

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

If 08/05 means August 2005, the listing is about 10 years too early. The FT 991 just came out. Logan, KZ6O > On Sep 3, 2015, at 12:45 PM, bs usb wrote: > > Indeed, the FT-991 is on the list, way down toward the bottom, but its vitals > appear to be right in line with those

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Guess I'm not reading the chart the same way you are: I find the 991's specs (sort of) in line with or even below decades-old rigs on the list from Atlas, Collins, Drake, Heathkit, and Ten-Tec. There's quite a bit of difference between the 991 and the top of the list (as in the "3" series

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

John Fritze <fritzej...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 > Personally I'm surrounded and use fancy tech all day long. When it's time to > get on the air I want simple, straight up, and reliable.

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

I gave the FT-991 a short, intense work out. I was the first buyer from Ham Radio Outlet. I just sold it. Having spent the last part of my career as a Usability Engineer - I was not impressed with the FT-991. Not from a performance stand point and most importantly not from a usability

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

I think this is Icom's way of dipping their toe in the water and not upsetting their fan base by introducing an SDR in convention looking hardware. I am confident that they will be releasing a whole line of stand alone SDR rigs... The question will be what quality ADC Icom uses in the front

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Major selling point of the IC-7300 overhere in Europe will be it's inclusion of the 70 MHz band! :-) 73, Olli - DH8BQA Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de Am 03.09.2015 um 08:58 schrieb Arie Kleingeld PA3A: The versatility/flexibility of the K3 is unmatched. The nice thing

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Yes, but is it a difference you can discern without the use of special test equipment? Absolutely! The FT-991 will be much more noisy, suffer much more QRM from adjacent signals and suffer much more blocking from strong signals on the other end of the band. Anyone who has had a K3 and an

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Joe, Thanks for addressing what to me is the core issue with any rig -- performance. A "bells and whistles" user interface -- and that can be a matter of personal preference -- may sell a lot of rigs, but to me performance is key in selecting a base station transceiver. I can compromise

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

+1000 And does this rig have the CAT fix for split? Original message From: Tony Estep <estept...@gmail.com> Date:09/02/2015 5:48 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 I note that it has only one

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

The versatility/flexibility of the K3 is unmatched. The nice thing about the ic7300 is that it uses direct RF sampling, which is probably the way to go in the future. I'm not sure if the touchscreen will add real value for operating. I'll have to try. As I wrote before, I expect that the K4

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Hi Wayne, Thank you for the thoughtful comments on the IC7300. I am spending some of my retirement in radio astronomy where direct RF sampling is invading. Radio astronomy is very different from most communications in that the wider the bandwidth the better. The only threat to my K3 is the KX3 and

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

ct: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 Al, Yes, but is it a difference you can discern without the use of special test equipment? If I can't hear the difference, then there is no difference. Besides Collins, Heathkit, and Drake were perfectly capable radios. I expect the 991 is equally c

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

eceiver is likely to be the weakest link or not. The following short article from W8JI may help explain this better:http://bit.ly/1UvIRHW 73, Matt VK2RQ _ From: bs usb <bs...@k5dkz.com> Sent: vendredi, septembre 4, 2015 5:43 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC

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Thanks for the explanation, Wayne. Funny thing is that I never think of the K3 as *functionally* an SDR radio, I guess because I don't have access to the I/Q signal -- unless it accessible in some sneaky way I don't know about. OTOH in principle it seems one could take the I/Q output of the

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

If the 991 is so good why did Sherwood rank it below the ancient 706? Ron From: bs usb <bs...@k5dkz.com> To: wb5...@centurytel.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 Al, Yes, but is it a difference you can d

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Hi Phil, Just to clarify: Both the KX3 and K3/K3S are SDRs. A major difference between these rigs and something like the IC-7300 or Flex 6xxx series is that our A-to-D converters (ADCs) are protected from wideband interference by a narrowband I.F. The K3/K3S uses crystal filters, while the KX3

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

On 09/03/2015 08:01 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Each to his own, but I find touchscreens to be 'bothersome' - real buttons with tactile feedback and real knobs do much better for me. The nice thing about knobs is that over time you develop "muscle memory" where each one is and how to adjust it.

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Alan, Nobody has said it better. Elecraft = Knobs R Us Gary -Original Message- From: "Alan" <n...@sonic.net> Sent: ‎4/‎09/‎2015 1:56 PM To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 On 09/03/2015 08:

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I apologize in advance if this is getting far off topic, but there is a blog that reviews audio equipment purely on the basis of “knob feel”. It is deeply silly, but you know, I can’t really disagree. There are lame knobs, good knobs, and great knobs. The feel of a big audio variable

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Now that I've had a smartphone for a few years, I can coexist with both worlds. But, being an OT, I like my knobs and switches. Surprisingly, I haven't bought a TS-991. At the Huntsville Hamfest, I ordered a Flex 6700, as well as a K3S. As a concession to the knob-twiddler in my personality, I

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Each to his own, but I find touchscreens to be 'bothersome' - real buttons with tactile feedback and real knobs do much better for me. I have tried tuning with the mouse scrollwheel, but find it cumbersome. For my radio, give me buttons and knobs - I can do the tuning and button pushing "by

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

PM Subject: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 Icom recently released news about the upcoming IC-7300 <http://icomamerica.com/en/products/amateur/hf/7300/default.aspx> to be available by the end of the year.  A completely software-defined radio.  Looks like a real game-changer. While the K3

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

While I think touch screen technology is neat, and perhaps faster, my main complaint is the screen is always filthy with finger oils. Yes I can wipe it off, but experience with an AVmap GPS, my Galaxy 5, an Ipad and a Windows 8,1 laptop tells me that touch screen is not always the best solution.

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

I'm with Chris. I like knobs too but touch screens are here to stay. Brian KB1VBF Sent from my iPad > On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Chris Hallinan wrote: > > I'll add my $0.02. I'm not a huge fan of touch screen for the same reasons > John mentions. However, I would

[Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Icom recently released news about the upcoming IC-7300 to be available by the end of the year. A completely software-defined radio. Looks like a real game-changer. While the K3S is a nice upgrade, I think the tide is slowly

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft > wrote: > > Icom recently released news about the upcoming IC-7300 > to be > available by the end of the year. A completely software-defined

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 Icom recently released news about the upcoming IC-7300 <http://icomamerica.com/en/products/amateur/hf/7300/default.aspx> to be available by the end of the year. A completely software-defined radio. Looks like a real game-c

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

There's a button right on the front panel that says SPLIT. 73, Ken Alexander VE3HLS On 2015-09-02 8:48 PM, Tony Estep wrote: I note that it has only one tuning knob, which in turn probably means you can't do the standard dx-split operating technique. If that's the case, then no matter what

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

1. Icom did not make claims about SDR, they made claims about the direct sampling architecture. The KX3 is about as SDR as you can get. 2. The proposed rig is first from “major” amateur radio vendors. That is, not counting FlexRadio, Apache Labs, etc. 3. When are they going to fill the hole

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Hi All, I liked the look of the 7300 and direct RF sampling is the future. It appears to have a conventional user interface all be it includes a color touch sceeen. Cheers, Glen > __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Admittedly, I'm a serious contester. Sit in front of a radio for 24, 36, 44.5 hrs (an aging contester) and you will soon see that the bells and whistles, flashy lights, and other gizmos generally mean diddly. For me, keeping my fingers as near to the keyboard as possible is one of those little

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

The "King of SDR" computer driven radios is coming out with a box with knobs. Perhaps lesson learned that everyone does not like those touch sensitive, menu driven, color display radios. Besides, why rely on a computer to run your transceiver when it can be done easily as a standalone device

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

<elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 The "King of SDR" computer driven radios is coming out with a box with knobs. Perhaps lesson learned that everyone does not like those touch sensitive, menu driven, color display radios. Besides, why rely on a co

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

I note that it has only one tuning knob, which in turn probably means you can't do the standard dx-split operating technique. If that's the case, then no matter what fancy gizmos it may boast, it would be of no interest to me, and some others might feel the same. Tony KT0NY

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Nothing. It's just that every time Elecraft adds a cool new feature, they have to find a way to get it onto a front panel button. If the buttons are drawn on the screen, they can be changed. Not saying I'm a fan, just that it's an attractive problem for some folks. Not sure how that works

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Cute, but likely not my cup of tea. Plus, zero info on performance! 73, Phil W7OX On 9/2/15 4:51 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote: Icom recently released news about the upcoming IC-7300 to be available by the end of the

Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

Doesn't mean a thing. You need 2 tuning knobs and independent receivers. On Sep 2, 2015 8:05 PM, "Ken Alexander" wrote: > There's a button right on the front panel that says SPLIT. > > 73, > > Ken Alexander > VE3HLS > > > > On 2015-09-02 8:48 PM, Tony Estep wrote: > >> I