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manufacturers would give us credit for a little more intelligence than their
marketing departments and advertising agencies seem to have.
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st set 7-8 ms which generates an actual waveform with Rise/Fall
in the area of 4 ms.
Kudos to Elecraft for NOT shipping the K3 in a default state that is
guaranteed to cause key clicks!
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Well done Dave!
http://www.astromag.co.uk/k3/
73 & Happy New Year!
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ou want RX IN/OUT, you need a KXV3. It's wrong to think of it
only as a Transverter option. Think of it as an RX ANT - IF OUT -
Transverter option.
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we are very confident
that we did choose the right radio."
http://ducie2008.dl1mgb.com/news/index.php
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e from Digi-key, Mouser, Newark, etc, etc.
>
Corcom 6EF1 is what you want. About $10 in single units (about half that on
eBay for 5 units). This problem has been around for over 10 years but the
manufacturers keep shipping junk.
http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/RFI/1998-05/msg000
knob to tune your
RX while TX freq is locked. This would be really nice for running in
contests. Piexx did this in their TS-930S digital board upgrade many years
ago and I've suggested it to Elecraft.
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Ken Kopp wrote:
>
>
> I can set ... and LOCK ... a frequency in the main VFO A
> knob / display and then move it to the VFO B knob / display
> using the A/B button. Then, by activating the SPLIT function
> I think I have what you're suggesting.
>
>
Yes...it just takes more keystrokes, but
it by setting "FLx BW" lower than
2.7k.
FYI, I tried using the 1.0k 8-pole on CW (before this option was locked out
by firmware) and I got a *worse* key click report than when using the 2.7k.
So there are good reasons behind Elecraft's lockouts.
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G4ILO wrote:
>
>
Perhaps so, but it creates a problem if my filter is actually a bit narrower
than 2.7KHz. There was actually "2.39KHz" written on my filter PCB, as well
as the sticker specifying the offset. I don't know if this is the actual
bandwidth that was measured when my filter was test
G4ILO wrote:
>
>
>
> Bill W4ZV wrote:
>>
>> I seriously doubt it since the 5-pole has been measured at >2.9 kHz (6 dB
>> BW). It's easy enough to check without unnecessary speculation.
>>
> Unnecessary speculation? Unnecessary as far as yo
Bill W4ZV wrote:
>
> All you need is a steady signal source like the XG1 since there's a meter
> internal to the K3 with 0.1 dB resolution. Just remember to set WIDTH to
> maximum (which takes the DSP filter out of the equation), set the internal
> meter to 0.0 dBV in th
Rob Sherwood will publish a detailed technical evaluation long before ARRL
(sans fluff). Rob also is not afraid of offending advertisers by
identifying genuine problems. ARRL's Expanded Test Reports are very
worthwhile but I would rather read good fiction than most QST product
reviews. :-)
7
mvolstad wrote:
>
> Has Rob actually commited to publishing a detailed technical evaluation of
> the K3? If so, I believe that will be a first. I have searched his web
> site and cannot find detailed evaluations of *any* current HF rigs. His
> tables of receiver performance numbers are very con
s as A/B but you are switching the BPFs
correctly.
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Not in my opinion, but
10-15 dB IMD difference would be worth it to me even if the prices were
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Bill W4ZV wrote:
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>
>
> HB9DRV:
>
> >The delay in the sub-RX is making me reconsider whether to buy
> the sub-RX and instead just buy a second basic K3 to use for RX.
>
> I'm having similar thoughts since I already ordered
> a second K3 i
here a workaround for
this or am I doing something wrong?
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ath may
help visualize what I'm doing:
signal >> 200 Hz XFIL >> 400 Hz DSP >> 30 Hz APF >> ear/brain
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TX filter than 2.7/2.8 because the firmware/software will not allow
it (even for CW). I know because I tried to do that years ago in an attempt
to further cleanse my CW signal. Now the KSYN3A does a great job of that
anyway.
When I do another experiment with the 2.1, I'll report the res
calibration constants and items unique to the K3. I doubt Elecraft has
thought of this but it would be nice if possible.
If I were you I'd go through the K3 CONFIG settings, write everything down
and then manually duplicate into the K3S. Also don't forget the MENU
settings.
73, Bill W4ZV
mod: http://www.raunvis.hi.is/~matti/TF3MA/sidetone_tf3ma.html
KT5X addendum:
http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2006-November/061425.html
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tone quality. The original design had so much harmonic content that it
was difficult to zero beat stations by ear.
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ld Pentium IV (2.8 GHz) XP CPU and Audiophile 2496 typically run at
about 20-30% CPU utilization and I've had no problems with both N1MM and
Skimmer getting frequency information, as you can see in the videos.
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KH7T wrote
>
> Is anyone contemplating a single lever key for the KXPD3 mounting?
>
No KX3 here yet but I made one for my ATS-3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wutov8MVr6Q
Maybe this will give you some ideas.
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Yaesu
frequently advertise features which will NEVER be implemented (e.g. claiming
roofing filter bandwidths twice as narrow as they actually
were...IC7800/7700, FT2000/9000, etc). Elecraft does not do that.
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Bill wrote
>
> Needless to say, I do question the K3's
> reliability factor and would be very interested in the particulars of
> other failures requiring a return to the factory for warranty repairs.
>
I've had 5 different K3s over 3.5 years and no failures necessitated a
return to the factor
K5DNL wrote
>
> Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for
>
> SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44?
>
> I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards,
>
> Will any of those cards work?
>
> I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine.
> OFF line wou
e relegated my Begali Mono to backup status in favor of an N3ZN
ZN-SL which works perfectly and has a much better tactile feel.
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Phil Hystad-3 wrote
>
>
> It could be that they were merely very minor differences due to the way
> that the KX3 panel is different but I thought that there were a few other
> things that were different too. Now, I can't specifically remember what
> they were so I will have to watch the video a
Bob K6UJ wrote
>
> I think that Icom is getting tired of seeing the K3's being the preferred
> rig for dxpeditions and decided
> to provide the IC-7600's for the Swains Island dxpedition in hopes of
> improving their image. :-)
>
>From the scrolling banner on the NH8S website homepage:
"..
me to less than ~5ms can
cause clicks which, as you said above, can be useful in contests to keep
others away from your run frequency.
Kudos to Wayne for not allowing the user to adjust this parameter and
therefore keeping our K3s cleaner than other rigs.
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tched to
the stock 2.7k set to DSP 2.0k for the remainder of the contest (won USA
SOSB/10 by 30% over the next highest score). I've since installed a 2.1k
which I expect will work better for high run rates...will report back after
October 28.
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Iain's approach could be adapted other loggers besides N1MM. This
eliminates the need to press the K3 buttons and I prefer the simplicity of
using the K3DVR versus hassling with computer soundcards.
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Dick, WN3R wrote
> With compression above 30
Wow! The max I ever use is 24. Microphones may vary but CMP=30 seems
awfully high.
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>From some recent posts:
K2 #7375
K3 #6884
KX3 #2457
1. When will the K3 catch the K2?
2. When will the KX3 catch the K3?
The good times roll on at Elecraft. Which shows what great product design,
good marketing and outstanding product support will do...even in a bad
economy! Too bad mor
AE5X: Anyone know if the upcoming (later this month?) Bouvet team is using
Elecraft gear?
I don't know but Dom 3Z9DX bought a K3 from me in May 2017. I had upgraded
to an 86XX S/N and sold him my 44XX S/N.
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especially true on 160 where local signals are extremely strong (as in K0RF
being line-of-sight about 2 miles away).
Thanks for posting those results!
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of money for many of us, but a bargain compared to
buying a brand new K3S, and you're getting about 95% of the performance.
BTW I have no connection with either of the sellers above.
73 & GL,
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audio quality mod. (not needed for CW).
I don't have time to find links for these but you should be able to find
them in a keyword search. They are all free and simple to install once you
have the parts.
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> same sidetone wave shaping as the newer K2s.
>
> I am not familiar with the TF3MA LP audio cutoff nor the JG1XLZ KSB2
> audio quality mod, and cannot comment.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/6/2019 8:20 AM, Bill W4ZV wrot
ion introduces constantly shifting relative phase changes).
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. The bottom 2 plots in the link below show what can be done by phasing
two parallel staggered Beverages:
http://users.vnet.net/btippett/new_page_10.htm
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ab2tc wrote
> PS. I am guessing if they have any Elecraft equipment we would have heard
> about it here.
I don't know but Dom 3Z9DX bought a K3 from me in May 2017. I had upgraded
to an 86XX S/N and sold him my 47XX S/N.
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, so it weighs 86%
less and probably has sufficient life for most of my operations.
I'd be interested to hear any comments from others about any leakage
problems with internal batteries.
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If you operate SSB, you might want to run higher voltage at the K3 terminals
(e.g. at 14.5V which is below the 15.0V spec) to minimize IMD. This was
discussed extensively in 2009 but the following by W4TV is a good summary:
> Is there something critical in the rad
"So very few controls would actually be needed. Come to think of it, an
operator wouldn't even be needed!"
BINGO! And how much fun would that be? Which is exactly why I don't care
for the computer-to-computer modes.
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RX).
Most of these relays are slow (and cheap) open frame relays.
With a little practice, I can listen between words (not characters) using a
footswitch.
And I have NEVER burned up any TX relays in my amps.
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Have you tried Save and then Restore Config in the K3 Utility? I know this
is somewhat inconvenient but it might work (don't know if it will but worth
a try).
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la3rk wrote:
>
> Check the following pages www.pa0sim.nl. As far as I can tell this
> gentleman has done exactly what you suggest, ie he used two K2 receivers
> phaselocked and each fed with separate antennas. Output to separate AF
> channels and software to null noise by phase and amplitude set
Ignacy wrote:
>
> RF gain moves S-meter in my K3 to S5 max. After RF calibration it is
> S9+60, but after power up it is S5 again. Seems something not stored.
> Looks like the calibration numbers are not stored permanently?
> Ignacy
>
This is a symptom of an old K3 Utility (circa September).
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>
> Jeff, I have compared the K3's APF with the filter offered in Elecraft's
> AF-1 Active Filter mini-module kit. There is no difference I can hear in
> the
> performance. Actually the AF-1 has more flexibility since you have two
> levels of "Q" to choose from, variable
Edward R. Cole wrote:
>
> I'm not sure that adapting the sw for noise
> cancellation will take that much extra
> processing. Reversing phase is a simple digital
> inversion.
>
It's also very simple to do at RF with one of the external phase boxes.
I've used all 3 of these and rate them
Edward Dickinson, III-2 wrote:
>
> The outboard accessories mentioned here work with only a single source of
> noise, as I understand them. Is it feasible that a noise canceling unit
> could be designed to utilize two or more sense antennas for multiple noise
> sources?
>
You could use a sepa
Guy, K2AV wrote:
>
> The problem with "automatic" is that it needs to know what out of the
> composite signal you are getting do you want nullified. You will
> still need manual input for this. Further, this is in effect only on
> the frequency you are on. Only RF cancellation has the broadba
Lee Buller wrote:
>
> I like the two guys from California...I wish them long lives.
>
I also like those two guys from Washington (K6KR and KK7P) and wish them the
same. And I wonder if your buddy can name ONE person in the design areas of
Yaesu, Kenwood or Icom? Or ONE of the principals of t
k9ztv wrote:
>
> I agree.
>
> Where is the edging out?
>
> Sherwood sorts on Dynamic Range-Narrow Spaced, and both rigs are 101db
> at 2 Kcs.
>
> I'm confused by Bob's statement that it "edges out" the K3.
>
The nominal filter bandwidth for all (un-footnoted) 2 kHz measurements is
500 Hz,
FYI from the Topband reflector:
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/topband/2010-December/033835.html
What would be the preferred Topband transceiver these days in the two
categories:
1.) Onboard 2nd receiver 2.) No onboard 2nd receiver
Replies off list would be appreciated.
73 Frank VO1H
http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm
Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
>
> Is there any way to print out the configuration of my radio in a form
> that is human-readable?
>
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Dennis KB7ST wrote:
>
> That made me curious about a really noise desktop I'm no longer using. I
> opened up the power supply. Amazing! There are drawings or whatever you
> call them on the PCB where AC power comes in showing inductor and
> capacitor symbols but those components aren't instal
eivers that share one common reference system. That
is what I have switched to now."
I thought some of you might be interested to see what two of the
best low band DXers thought about their K3s.
73 & HNY,
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milar disappointment with the Orion system.
To the best of my knowledge the K3 Elecraft is the only receiver that has
absolutely identical receivers that share one common reference system. That
is what I have switched to now."
I thought some of you might be interested to see what two o
Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2 wrote:
>
> So what if ON4UN has a K3?
>
Since ON4UN has won 70% First Places and 20% Second Places (EU or World) in
100 international contests over a 20 year period, I place a lot of
credibility in his opinions...not to mention his world high DXCC standing on
80m and EU h
VK7JB wrote:
>
> My question: Given my situation, would I benefit from the extra
> investment in the KTCX03-1 high stability reference oscillator and/or the
> 2.8-2.7 filter swap option?
>
> About filters: which would you recommend I buy, given my casual-mode
> operation? I anticipate work
Bob Naumann wrote:
>
> I've asked about the 2.1 filter before, but here it is again.
>
> Will the K3 configuration be changed to allow the selection of the 2.1
> filter for transmission purposes?
>
Only Elecraft can answer this question. In early 2008, I tried using a 1
kHz filter for CW TX
P.B. Christensen wrote:
>
> Since keying bandwidth is a function of the RF envelope shape, I'm not
> sure
> why anyone would want to narrow the K3 filter on CW transmit.
>
Because most rigs have spurs and I wanted to make my signal as clean as
possible. Typically these may be <80 dBc but sti
VK7JB wrote:
>
> # About filters options:
> There was a concensus of opinion that the 2.8 8 pole / 2.7 5 pole swap
> wouldn't be of benefit in my situation and that I should just go with the
> 2.7 / 5 pole stock filter.
>
>
> I've decided that I probably WILL do the 2.8 for 2.7 swap and ins
k2zf50 wrote:
>
> If I am not mistaken, the original post was in reference to 80 meters. I
> may be wrong, but I am not aware of long path on that band.
> Jim Douglas K2ZF
>
Long path is an everyday occurrence on 80 during the winter. Listen
tomorrow morning around 11-1200z for XU7ACY comin
Carl Clawson-2 wrote:
>
> One that I notice to be missing is the KSYN3 stiffener mod. The app note
> is
> stored near the manual but is not linked anywhere that I can find. This is
> one that I probably wouldn't bother with, but are there other mods that
> somehow never made it to the mod page?
James Balls wrote:
>
> Not really been keeping up on the reflector, just acquired a P3 but cannot
> find any way of tracking VFO B
>
IF OUT uses VFO A so a hardware mod must be added for VFO B in the KRX3 to
have an IF OUT. N2QT has described a mod to do this below:
http://groups.yahoo.com/g
K5WA wrote:
>
> My 1000' beverages are WAY too close to my 160 phased vertical array
> (about
> 100' max at the closest point) running the legal limit power but I have
> zero
> RF getting back into the K3 when transmitting and I use NO external relays
> to protect the K3.
>
Same here. I've n
Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
>
> And I think a lot of the "skill" should be credited to the ops on the
> other end who manage to pull out the QRP stations.
>
I agree. Most of the credit should go the the station that copies QRP
stations. It's one thing to generate a weak signal but entirely ano
critical tuning correct.
4. Indeed the effectiveness of APF seems to vary with the type of noise. I
find it most useful in mild atmospheric noise (lightning from a long
distance) and less useful in galactic or white noise.
73, Bill W4ZV
wayne burdick wrote:
>
> A couple of notes from the
Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2 wrote:
>
> I have no lab equipment but I have a K3 with dBV measurements, XG2 and
> the stepped attenuator from elecraft.
>
Arie I believe you may have some measurement error. I'm sure you know that
noise can only be measured correctly with a True RMS responding
meter..
Scott Ellington wrote:
>
> Page 36 of the K3 owner's manual:
>
> "AFV shows the true RMS value of receiver AF output (mVp-p), unaffected by
> AF GAIN control. "
>
While that may be true for sinusoidal signals I doubt it holds for noise
measurements. Accurate noise measurements require a "tru
Barry N1EU wrote:
>
> 4.16 APF has the same response curve as all the other versions.
>
Q.E.D. If it has an identical response curve it has identical S/N
performance. Anything else is either differences in noise conditions or
human imagination.
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> I had a sage manager many years ago who often stated "Perception is 99%
> of reality". Being of a scientific mind, I had my doubts at the time
> thinking "people will be convinced by the facts of science".
> In later years, I have mellowed and now agree with that man
PA3A wrote:
> Measured the two FW's 4.17 and 4.25 with APF on S+N/N ratio at MDS
again, and again.
Question was: if the filter plots are exactly the same, where does the
measured (marginal) difference of 2 dB come from?
> Found no difference this time. Seems that the XG2 drifted a bit in
yest
ab2tc wrote:
>
> The pictures shows just one vertical antenna up on the rocks, not an ideal
> arrangement even if they have lots of radials. Is that all they have?
>
Note the shack photo with about 5 operating positions. DXE, SteppIR and
SpiderBeam are all sponsors so I'm sure they have othe
APF was discussed extensively in August 2009 (check the archives) including a
simulation of the exact FT-1000D APF analog circuit which I found and sent
to Al W6LX. Here's Al's simulation which was the model for the K3's DSP
implementation of APF:
http://sites.google.com/site/ft1000apf/w6lxanaly
NO9E wrote:
> APF was different story for RUN. Turning on APF was too slow. Having an
> option to switch XFIL and APF for CW only would be great. I guess software
> APF toggle change via PF key may be good enough.
I never used APF in the CQ 160 (who has time to tune in 5 Hz steps using
SHIFT o
Does anyone know the cable length of the most recent adapter (using the FTDI
chipset)?
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>
> Does anyone know the cable length of the most recent adapter (using the
> FTDI chipset)?
>
6' is the answer. Another question...has anyone had problems with the
Elecraft KUSB and XP? I got one report of problems with Win7.
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wayne burdick wrote:
>
> On the other end of the spectrum: If the going is really tough, you
> might consider our 200 Hz, 5-pole filter. It's a favorite of CW and
> data-mode operators who routinely have to dig for weak ones between
> monster signals in CW and data modes.
>
I operated mo
I should have mentioned that the 500 Hz Joe measured below was the Elecraft
5-pole...not the Inrad 8-pole.
73, Bill
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
>
> 200 250 400 500
>-
> - 6dB 224 370 435
Edward R. Cole wrote:
>
> Let me ask a filter question for a different situation. I am
> interested in receiving very-weak CW and currently have the 2.8 KHz
> and 400-Hz 8-pole filters. Will narrowing the DSP bw down to 200-Hz
> work as well as using a 200-Hz filter? There are no strong st
Dunc Carter - W5DC wrote:
>
> It has an added benefit in that I can tell if my neighbor's
> horrible new plasma TV is on without having to get near the rig. If the
> waterfall is all green, there is no point in trying to operate. On 80,
> the plasma TV raises my noise floor from - 102 dBm t
Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2 wrote:
>
> When using different roofing filters in the K3, the IF-offset changes a
> bit in the K3, if you switch to another roofing filter, if I understand
> it correctly.. It has been explained in this reflector that this happens
> for a reason. It has to do with the w
Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2 wrote:
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> Bill,
>
> Thanks for the confirmation.
>
> I'm not an expert in how this software works to get the the signals
> displayed on the right freq.
> It seems to me that CWskimmer uses the displayed receive frequency as
> data to work with. It would probably work b
JERRY-2 wrote:
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> With the exception of cost, has anyone given up their Icom for a K3?
>
A few ex-IC7800 users: EI6IZ, EI2CN, W2UP, K3WW (all avid contesters BTW).
73, Bill
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1. Is your PREamp turned on for 10m? Hopefully you don't accidentally have
RX ANT activated.
2. Please describe your antenna in more detail, including orientation.
3. I've never needed a preamp on 10m in the 8 years I've had a K3, but my
antenna system has a lot of gain.
I don't believe K3S schematics are available yet, but the K3 schematics are
probably close and may help.
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Schematics_Jun_2010.pdf
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of noise.
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The last phrase "helps your ears discriminate weak signals from noise by
providing a wider background sample of noise" is key. Narrower bandwidths
are not best for the human ear/brain...no matter what theory says about
narrower bandwidths having better S/N.
73, Bill W4ZV
erminals on multiple units for over 5 years with no
problems.
73, Bill W4ZV
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7;d definitely want one above ~3626 to get the new DSP.
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Running DC input voltage close to the specified limit of 15.0 V will improve
IMD. Perhaps the results you posted were with lower input voltage.
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6 and above. Hopefully
your 3k S/N is above!
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/dsp_rev_c_information.htm
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s are becoming scarcer by the day.
Thank you Elecraft for producing one of the best quality CW signals and not
allowing owners to shorten rise/fall times to intentionally create dirty
signals.
73, Bill W4ZV
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