Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Marcin Borkowski writes: > Hi all, > > after a short discussion in a recent thread, I have a serious technical > question. > > Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which > won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having written a few custom exporters, I'm > writing a tutorial o

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Hi Aaron, Aaron Ecay writes: >> Besides, CC-BY-NC-SA is compatible with GPL! Compatible. With GPL. > > This isn’t correct. -NC licenses are non-Free (in the FSF sense of the > word): > -SA licenses are Free, but not GPL-compatible, as

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Hi Oleh, 2015ko uztailak 28an, Oleh Krehel-ek idatzi zuen: > Besides, CC-BY-NC-SA is compatible with GPL! Compatible. With GPL. This isn’t correct. -NC licenses are non-Free (in the FSF sense of the word): -SA licenses are Free, but no

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Oleh Krehel writes: > Marcin Borkowski writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> after a short discussion in a recent thread, I have a serious technical >> question. >> >> Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which >> won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having written a few custom exporte

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On Tuesday, 28 Jul 2015 at 11:00, Oleh Krehel wrote: > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> Anyway, I think we've beaten this to death already. Time to get real >> work done! :-) > > That is my usual approach: label everything I write with GPL and not > think about it:) > > It's just that most posts about G

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Andreas Hilboll writes: >>> However, when the interpreter is extended to provide “bindings” to >>> other facilities (often, but not necessarily, libraries), the >>> interpreted program is effectively linked to the facilities it uses >>> through these bindings. So if these facilities are released

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 28.07.2015 11:30, Oleh Krehel wrote: > Andreas Hilboll writes: > Look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GNU_General_Public_License§ion=11#Libraries Most useful quote: > The Free Software Foundation (which holds the copyright of several > notable

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Andreas Hilboll writes: >>> Look here: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GNU_General_Public_License§ion=11#Libraries >>> >>> Most useful quote: >>> The Free Software Foundation (which holds the copyright of several notable GPL-licensed software products and of the license t

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

>> Look here: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GNU_General_Public_License§ion=11#Libraries >> >> Most useful quote: >> >>> The Free Software Foundation (which holds the copyright of several >>> notable GPL-licensed software products and of the license text itself) >>> asserts that an e

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Eric S Fraga writes: > Anyway, I think we've beaten this to death already. Time to get real > work done! :-) That is my usual approach: label everything I write with GPL and not think about it:) It's just that most posts about GPL cast it in a bad light: I think it's the best license, and I do

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On Tuesday, 28 Jul 2015 at 10:07, Oleh Krehel wrote: [...] > Look here: > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GNU_General_Public_License§ion=11#Libraries > > Most useful quote: > >> The Free Software Foundation (which holds the copyright of several >> notable GPL-licensed software products

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Eric S Fraga writes: > On Monday, 27 Jul 2015 at 19:04, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > > [...] > >> Nope. As stated by someone here (Oleh, I guess), if I (require 'org), >> or possibly even just write Elisp, and want to distribute it, it has to >> be GPL. > > I do not think this is true. I would lik

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Marcin Borkowski writes: >> As Oleh Krehel pointed out in a reply to another mail of yours, if your >> code links to org-mode code (or other GPL code) you cannot release it >> under a different license. I'm not sure about how linking is intended in >> Elisp sense of ('require)ing a library, but I

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 27/07/15 18:59, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > On 2015-07-27, at 14:39, Daniele Nicolodi wrote: >> Therefore, the only extensions to org-mode that can exist (and be >> distributed, if you write code and keep it for yourself you are not >> affected by the licensing terms) must be GPL. >> >> Thus, it

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On Monday, 27 Jul 2015 at 19:04, Marcin Borkowski wrote: [...] > Nope. As stated by someone here (Oleh, I guess), if I (require 'org), > or possibly even just write Elisp, and want to distribute it, it has to > be GPL. I do not think this is true. I would like to see a proper reference where i

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Oleh Krehel writes: > Marcin Borkowski writes: > >> And what if I explicitly want people to be able to use my code in >> a proprietary software? > > Then you're out of luck. Just like thousands (millions) of programmers > are out of luck when they want to examine the code of a closed source > p

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Hi Marcin and all, Marcin Borkowski writes: > after a short discussion in a recent thread, I have a serious technical > question. > > Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which > won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having written a few custom exporters, I'm > writing a tut

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 2015-07-27, at 20:02, Nick Dokos wrote: > Marcin Borkowski writes: > >> On 2015-07-27, at 14:39, Daniele Nicolodi wrote: >> >>> Hello Marcin, >>> >>> On 27/07/15 14:10, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which won't be GPL'd.

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Marcin Borkowski writes: > On 2015-07-27, at 14:39, Daniele Nicolodi wrote: > >> Hello Marcin, >> >> On 27/07/15 14:10, Marcin Borkowski wrote: >>> Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which >>> won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having written a few custom exporters, I'm

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 2015-07-27, at 18:12, Oleh Krehel wrote: > Marcin Borkowski writes: > >> And what if I explicitly want people to be able to use my code in >> a proprietary software? > > Then you're out of luck. Just like thousands (millions) of programmers > are out of luck when they want to examine the cod

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 2015-07-27, at 18:54, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Monday, 27 Jul 2015 at 18:01, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > > [...] > >> And what if I explicitly want people to be able to use my code in >> a proprietary software? Or if I just want to use the "Unlicense"? Or >> if I don't want to use GPL on prin

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 2015-07-27, at 14:39, Daniele Nicolodi wrote: > Hello Marcin, > > On 27/07/15 14:10, Marcin Borkowski wrote: >> Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which >> won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having written a few custom exporters, I'm >> writing a tutorial on them, and

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On Monday, 27 Jul 2015 at 18:01, Marcin Borkowski wrote: [...] > And what if I explicitly want people to be able to use my code in > a proprietary software? Or if I just want to use the "Unlicense"? Or > if I don't want to use GPL on principle? (And if I still consider Emacs You are perfectly

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 2015-07-27, at 15:58, Scott Randby wrote: > On 07/27/2015 08:10 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: >> >> Please refrain from comments about my stupidity or stupidity of the >> so-called IP law. And please understand that if I'm sounding a bit >> angry in this email, it's because I'm *very* angry ab

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Marcin Borkowski writes: > And what if I explicitly want people to be able to use my code in > a proprietary software? Then you're out of luck. Just like thousands (millions) of programmers are out of luck when they want to examine the code of a closed source proprietary software. If I asked so

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 2015-07-27, at 17:13, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Monday, 27 Jul 2015 at 14:10, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > > [...] > >> And I see no reason to impose GPL on them.)) > > [...] > >> And please understand that if I'm sounding a bit angry in this email, >> it's because I'm *very* angry about this who

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On Monday, 27 Jul 2015 at 14:10, Marcin Borkowski wrote: [...] > And I see no reason to impose GPL on them.)) [...] > And please understand that if I'm sounding a bit angry in this email, > it's because I'm *very* angry about this whole lawyer mafia > restricting my freedom (again). (Note: I'm

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 2015-07-27, at 15:05, Greg Troxel wrote: > Marcin Borkowski writes: > >> after a short discussion in a recent thread, I have a serious technical >> question. >> >> Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which >> won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having written a few cus

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 2015-07-27, at 15:09, Greg Troxel wrote: > Rainer M Krug writes: > >> These packages all depend on R itself. >> >> So isn't this the same as in emacs / elisp? Isn't an exporter / .el file >> the same as a package in R, something which enhances the original >> product using a provided interfa

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 2015-07-27, at 14:16, Oleh Krehel wrote: > Marcin Borkowski writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> after a short discussion in a recent thread, I have a serious technical >> question. >> >> Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which >> won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having wri

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 07/27/2015 08:10 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Please refrain from comments about my stupidity or stupidity of the so-called IP law. And please understand that if I'm sounding a bit angry in this email, it's because I'm *very* angry about this whole lawyer mafia restricting my freedom (again).

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Andreas Hilboll writes: > On 27.07.2015 15:09, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> Rainer M Krug writes: >> >>> These packages all depend on R itself. >>> >>> So isn't this the same as in emacs / elisp? Isn't an exporter / .el file >>> the same as a package in R, something which enhances the original >>>

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

On 27.07.2015 15:09, Greg Troxel wrote: > > Rainer M Krug writes: > >> These packages all depend on R itself. >> >> So isn't this the same as in emacs / elisp? Isn't an exporter / .el file >> the same as a package in R, something which enhances the original >> product using a provided interface

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Rainer M Krug writes: > These packages all depend on R itself. > > So isn't this the same as in emacs / elisp? Isn't an exporter / .el file > the same as a package in R, something which enhances the original > product using a provided interface (the functions) but does not change > anything in t

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Marcin Borkowski writes: > after a short discussion in a recent thread, I have a serious technical > question. > > Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which > won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having written a few custom exporters, I'm I will assume that you mean "write

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Oleh Krehel writes: > Marcin Borkowski writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> after a short discussion in a recent thread, I have a serious technical >> question. >> >> Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which >> won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having written a few custom exporte

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Hello Marcin, On 27/07/15 14:10, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which > won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having written a few custom exporters, I'm > writing a tutorial on them, and I consider publishing a *tutorial* with > GPL'd code a Bad

Re: [O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Marcin Borkowski writes: > Hi all, > > after a short discussion in a recent thread, I have a serious technical > question. > > Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which > won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having written a few custom exporters, I'm > writing a tutorial on

[O] How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?

Hi all, after a short discussion in a recent thread, I have a serious technical question. Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having written a few custom exporters, I'm writing a tutorial on them, and I consider publishing a *tutori