OOps sorry for some reason I thought this was a NEBS questions - obviously
the section I sent had nothing to do with the code of federal regulations or
the NEC
-Original Message-
From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:48 AM
To:
Good stuff.
For further info, here's a link I use often to explain.
http://www.osha-slc.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/index.html
John Juhasz
Fiber Options
Bohemia, Long Island, NY
UNITED States of America
-Original Message-
From: oover...@lexmark.com [mailto:oover...@lexmark.com]
Sent: Friday,
This is a slightly older NEBS document, but I believe the requirement number
hasn't changed.
Gary
4.5.3 Listing Requirements
R4-3 [22] All network equipment that is directly powered by commercial ac,
either through a hard-wire or plug-and-cord connection, shall be listed for
the
I previously sent this to John off-line. But after reading other
responses on-line, I thought it may be an experience worth sharing.
One warning, my experience deals with test and measurement equipment
(which was John's question). Other product types may be different.
Hi John,
Our
Patty,
Here is a little something that I put together previously to give to some of our
folks when they asked the same question.
I found it has saved a lot of time in having to present it every time I'm asked
the question.
(See attached file: Why NRTL Required - Generic.doc)
Oscar
(The usual
NRTL Listing is mandatory for most types of equipment. See the definition of
'acceptable below for those cases where NRTL Listing is not mandatory. This
comes from 1910.399 Definitions Applicable to this Subpart.
Acceptable. An installation or equipment is acceptable to the Assistant
Secretary
Actually, if you read the regulation carefully, NRTL Listing is not
mandatory. There are other options of demonstrating compliance.
Richard Woods
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From: Kevin Robinson [SMTP:krobin...@metlabs.com]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:47 PM
To:
Patty,
The requirements are located in 29 CFR Part 1910 Subpart S. Go to
http://www.osha-slc.gov/OshStd_toc/OSHA_Std_toc_1910.html
http://www.osha-slc.gov/OshStd_toc/OSHA_Std_toc_1910.html for a table of
contents for part 1910. If you go down the list and click on 1910 Subpart S
it will take
Good Luck, Brian
It sounds good to me! I'll follow you in 6 months, 1 week, and 3 days; but
how's counting.
Jerry Moorman
Crown Photo Systems, Inc.
Marysville, WA., US of A
- Original Message -
From: Brian Harlowe brian.harl...@vgscientific.com
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Sent: Thursday,
29 CFR 1910 is the section that requires products be listed by an NRTL.
Kevin Robinson
Senior Project Engineer/QA
Safety Laboratory
MET Laboratories
Phone: (410) 354-3300 x 361
Fax: (410) 354-3313
-Original Message-
From: Patricia Knudsen (EWU) [SMTP:ewup...@am1.ericsson.se]
Sent:
Patty
29CFR1910 Subpart S- Electrical is what you are looking for.
Regards,
Eric Petitpierre
Pulsecom
Herndon, VA
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Bob,
Similar situation applies to EN 300 440
Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio spectrum
Matters (ERM); Short range devices; Radio equipment to
be used in the 1 GHz to 40 GHz frequency range. 440-2
is harmonized but reference to 440-1 which is not
harmonized.
What I did for my customers
John,
My experience has proven that the GOST-R mark is required for Russia. In
fact I am in a situation right now where the customer location will not
accept the certified original copy certificate. They insist that the rules
have changed. I contacted my GOST agent and have been reassured that
Hi All,
I was asked to forward this story on to the group. If you are on the NEBS
list server, this is a duplicate. From the perspective of a
telecommunications equipment manufacturer, it is good to be reminded that
the extra effort and design constraints one must face to meet NEBS
requirements
One does wonder what evil experiments you have planned for the weekend !
From two sources,
Wet Skin, hand to hand, ~1000ohm
Dry Skin, hand to hand, ~100,000ohm.
approx. values for male adults.
Dan Teninty wrote:
Robert,
The best I can do is point you in the direction of IEC 479-1 which is
Does anyone know the specific section of the CFR that refers to equipment at
the workplace (specifically computer or test equipment) being Listed by a NRTL?
Patty Knudsen
Sr. Regulatory Engineer
Ericsson Wireless Communications
(858) 332-5014
patricia.knud...@ericsson.com
Sorry to post here but am running into a brick wall at trying to find out
something as simple as the resistivity and dielectric constant for skin!
Does anybody have a source? Need quick, please.
- Robert -
Hi Robert:
The skin resistivity and dielectric
Bob, the -1 standard will not be published in the OJ since it is considered
to be a reference standard similar to the same status as the EN 61000-4
series. Since the test suite is contained in the -2 harmonized standard, you
no longer need to use a Notified Body.
Richard Woods
Bob,
My understanding is that EN 300330-1 is a basic standard; EN 300330-2 is the
calling standard. Similar to other basic standards, only the calling
standards need to be announced (e.g., EN 50082-1 needs to be announced, not
EN 61000-4-3).
Regards,
Don Umbdenstock
Sensormatic
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Richard and everyone
The directives do not apply in Switzerland and therefore the CE marking has
no legal significance. As far as EMC is concerned, Switzerland has its own
laws including the Law of Electricity 1902, The Law of Telecommunications
1991, the Law of Broadcasting 1991, and Ordinance
Robert,
Try this web site: http://speech.llnl.gov/thesis/index.htm
It's a good starting point regarding the skin.
Richard Georgerian
Technical Committee 8 Product Safety (TC-8), Vice-chair
Colorado Product Safety Technical Committee (CPSTC), Chair
Compliance Engineer
Carrier Access
ETSI EN 300 330-2, Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio spectrum
Matters (ERM); Short Range Devices (SRD); Radio equipment in the frequency
9 kHz to 25 MHz and inductive loop systems in the frequency range 9 kHz to
30 MHz; Part 2: Harmonized EN under article 3.2 of the RTTE Directive is
now a
Thanks for the clarification, Brian. What is the legal state of the
Directives and CE marking in Switzerland? If they don't apply, what does?
Richard Woods
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From: Brian Jones [SMTP:e...@brianjones.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:56 AM
To:
Robert,
The best I can do is point you in the direction of IEC 479-1 which is by now
IEC 600479. The title is Effects of current passing through the human
body. The electrical model for the human body is derived from this
information. There is a good description of this in Annex A of ANSI/ISA
Richard and everyone
The three EFTA countries which are parties to the European Economic Area
agreement are Iceland, Norway and Liechtenstein. They apply the directives
as if they were members of the EU. Although Switzerland is an EFTA member,
it did not join the others in EEA membership.
One slight correction. The Directives and CE marking also legally apply in
the EFTA member states: Norway, Iceland and Switzerland and perhaps a couple
more that I don't recall at the moment.
Richard Woods
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From: Chris Chileshe [SMTP:chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk]
Hi John,
I am not familiar with GOST and I don't doubt there are people on this forum
better informed to address your query. What I do know is that CE is not
required outside the scope of the EU membership. At present, AFAIK, the
EU member states are: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland,
Jon,
Manufacturer B should be confident with manufacturer's A Technical File
before he places product in the market. Manufacturer B should not only
provide a DoC bust also hold the Manufacturer A's Technical File.
If manufacturer A has a problem giving their technical file to manufacturer
B
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:37:31 +0100 Chris Chileshe
chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk wrote:
However, the CE mark is a declaration of conformity and you can self certify.
Self certify ? Yes, that is OK for LVD- and EMC directives. But a lot of the EU
directives require work/certification from a
A technical construction file is still required by manufacturer B. But in this
case it might consist of nothing more
than a reference to Manufacturers A goods, there DOC and why manufactures B
product is different. i.e. It has a
different name on the front. Myself I would go a little further
I hope someone can set me straight on the following matter regarding
Technical Construction Documentation (LVD) in the following scenario:
Manufacturer A produces and sells a product to the market and also sells it
to Manufacturer B, Manufacturer B just re-names the product and also sells
the
Sorry to post here but am running into a brick wall at trying to find out
something as simple as the resistivity and dielectric constant for skin!
Does anybody have a source? Need quick, please.
- Robert -
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Hello Group,
Is the CE Mark sufficient to allow products (laboratory instruments,
for example) to be sold/shipped into the Russian Federation, or is
the GOST mark also required?
Regards,
John Bouse
PKI
Shelton, CT USA
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