RE: CFR requirements for the workplace

2001-09-14 Thread Gary McInturff
OOps sorry for some reason I thought this was a NEBS questions - obviously the section I sent had nothing to do with the code of federal regulations or the NEC -Original Message- From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:48 AM To:

RE: CFR requirements for the workplace

2001-09-14 Thread John Juhasz
Good stuff. For further info, here's a link I use often to explain. http://www.osha-slc.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/index.html John Juhasz Fiber Options Bohemia, Long Island, NY UNITED States of America -Original Message- From: oover...@lexmark.com [mailto:oover...@lexmark.com] Sent: Friday,

RE: CFR requirements for the workplace

2001-09-14 Thread Gary McInturff
This is a slightly older NEBS document, but I believe the requirement number hasn't changed. Gary 4.5.3 Listing Requirements R4-3 [22] All network equipment that is directly powered by commercial ac, either through a hard-wire or plug-and-cord connection, shall be listed for the

FW: CE Mark and GOST

2001-09-14 Thread Chris Maxwell
I previously sent this to John off-line. But after reading other responses on-line, I thought it may be an experience worth sharing. One warning, my experience deals with test and measurement equipment (which was John's question). Other product types may be different. Hi John, Our

Re: CFR requirements for the workplace

2001-09-14 Thread ooverton
Patty, Here is a little something that I put together previously to give to some of our folks when they asked the same question. I found it has saved a lot of time in having to present it every time I'm asked the question. (See attached file: Why NRTL Required - Generic.doc) Oscar (The usual

RE: CFR requirements for the workplace

2001-09-14 Thread Andrews, Kurt
NRTL Listing is mandatory for most types of equipment. See the definition of 'acceptable below for those cases where NRTL Listing is not mandatory. This comes from 1910.399 Definitions Applicable to this Subpart. Acceptable. An installation or equipment is acceptable to the Assistant Secretary

RE: CFR requirements for the workplace

2001-09-14 Thread WOODS
Actually, if you read the regulation carefully, NRTL Listing is not mandatory. There are other options of demonstrating compliance. Richard Woods -- From: Kevin Robinson [SMTP:krobin...@metlabs.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:47 PM To:

RE: CFR requirements for the workplace

2001-09-14 Thread Andrews, Kurt
Patty, The requirements are located in 29 CFR Part 1910 Subpart S. Go to http://www.osha-slc.gov/OshStd_toc/OSHA_Std_toc_1910.html http://www.osha-slc.gov/OshStd_toc/OSHA_Std_toc_1910.html for a table of contents for part 1910. If you go down the list and click on 1910 Subpart S it will take

Re: Retirement

2001-09-14 Thread Jerry Moorman
Good Luck, Brian It sounds good to me! I'll follow you in 6 months, 1 week, and 3 days; but how's counting. Jerry Moorman Crown Photo Systems, Inc. Marysville, WA., US of A - Original Message - From: Brian Harlowe brian.harl...@vgscientific.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Thursday,

RE: CFR requirements for the workplace

2001-09-14 Thread Kevin Robinson
29 CFR 1910 is the section that requires products be listed by an NRTL. Kevin Robinson Senior Project Engineer/QA Safety Laboratory MET Laboratories Phone: (410) 354-3300 x 361 Fax: (410) 354-3313 -Original Message- From: Patricia Knudsen (EWU) [SMTP:ewup...@am1.ericsson.se] Sent:

Re: CFR requirements for the workplace

2001-09-14 Thread Eric Petitpierre
Patty 29CFR1910 Subpart S- Electrical is what you are looking for. Regards, Eric Petitpierre Pulsecom Herndon, VA --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at:

Re: ETSI EN 300 330-X

2001-09-14 Thread Leslie Bai
Bob, Similar situation applies to EN 300 440 Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio spectrum Matters (ERM); Short range devices; Radio equipment to be used in the 1 GHz to 40 GHz frequency range. 440-2 is harmonized but reference to 440-1 which is not harmonized. What I did for my customers

RE: CE Mark and GOST

2001-09-14 Thread Joshua Wiseman
John, My experience has proven that the GOST-R mark is required for Russia. In fact I am in a situation right now where the customer location will not accept the certified original copy certificate. They insist that the rules have changed. I contacted my GOST agent and have been reassured that

A Case For NEBS

2001-09-14 Thread David Spencer
Hi All, I was asked to forward this story on to the group. If you are on the NEBS list server, this is a duplicate. From the perspective of a telecommunications equipment manufacturer, it is good to be reminded that the extra effort and design constraints one must face to meet NEBS requirements

Re: Need electrical characteristics of epidermis (skin)

2001-09-14 Thread Andrew Carson
One does wonder what evil experiments you have planned for the weekend ! From two sources, Wet Skin, hand to hand, ~1000ohm Dry Skin, hand to hand, ~100,000ohm. approx. values for male adults. Dan Teninty wrote: Robert, The best I can do is point you in the direction of IEC 479-1 which is

CFR requirements for the workplace

2001-09-14 Thread Patricia Knudsen (EWU)
Does anyone know the specific section of the CFR that refers to equipment at the workplace (specifically computer or test equipment) being Listed by a NRTL? Patty Knudsen Sr. Regulatory Engineer Ericsson Wireless Communications (858) 332-5014 patricia.knud...@ericsson.com

RE: Need electrical characteristics of epidermis (skin)

2001-09-14 Thread Rich Nute
Sorry to post here but am running into a brick wall at trying to find out something as simple as the resistivity and dielectric constant for skin! Does anybody have a source? Need quick, please. - Robert - Hi Robert: The skin resistivity and dielectric

RE: ETSI EN 300 330-X

2001-09-14 Thread WOODS
Bob, the -1 standard will not be published in the OJ since it is considered to be a reference standard similar to the same status as the EN 61000-4 series. Since the test suite is contained in the -2 harmonized standard, you no longer need to use a Notified Body. Richard Woods

RE: ETSI EN 300 330-X

2001-09-14 Thread UMBDENSTOCK
Bob, My understanding is that EN 300330-1 is a basic standard; EN 300330-2 is the calling standard. Similar to other basic standards, only the calling standards need to be announced (e.g., EN 50082-1 needs to be announced, not EN 61000-4-3). Regards, Don Umbdenstock Sensormatic --

Re: European Economic Area

2001-09-14 Thread Brian Jones
Richard and everyone The directives do not apply in Switzerland and therefore the CE marking has no legal significance. As far as EMC is concerned, Switzerland has its own laws including the Law of Electricity 1902, The Law of Telecommunications 1991, the Law of Broadcasting 1991, and Ordinance

RE: Need electrical characteristics of epidermis (skin)

2001-09-14 Thread Georgerian, Richard
Robert, Try this web site: http://speech.llnl.gov/thesis/index.htm It's a good starting point regarding the skin. Richard Georgerian Technical Committee 8 Product Safety (TC-8), Vice-chair Colorado Product Safety Technical Committee (CPSTC), Chair Compliance Engineer Carrier Access

ETSI EN 300 330-X

2001-09-14 Thread reheller
ETSI EN 300 330-2, Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio spectrum Matters (ERM); Short Range Devices (SRD); Radio equipment in the frequency 9 kHz to 25 MHz and inductive loop systems in the frequency range 9 kHz to 30 MHz; Part 2: Harmonized EN under article 3.2 of the RTTE Directive is now a

RE: European Economic Area

2001-09-14 Thread WOODS
Thanks for the clarification, Brian. What is the legal state of the Directives and CE marking in Switzerland? If they don't apply, what does? Richard Woods -- From: Brian Jones [SMTP:e...@brianjones.co.uk] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:56 AM To:

RE: Need electrical characteristics of epidermis (skin)

2001-09-14 Thread Dan Teninty
Robert, The best I can do is point you in the direction of IEC 479-1 which is by now IEC 600479. The title is Effects of current passing through the human body. The electrical model for the human body is derived from this information. There is a good description of this in Annex A of ANSI/ISA

European Economic Area

2001-09-14 Thread Brian Jones
Richard and everyone The three EFTA countries which are parties to the European Economic Area agreement are Iceland, Norway and Liechtenstein. They apply the directives as if they were members of the EU. Although Switzerland is an EFTA member, it did not join the others in EEA membership.

RE: CE Mark and GOST

2001-09-14 Thread WOODS
One slight correction. The Directives and CE marking also legally apply in the EFTA member states: Norway, Iceland and Switzerland and perhaps a couple more that I don't recall at the moment. Richard Woods -- From: Chris Chileshe [SMTP:chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk]

RE: CE Mark and GOST

2001-09-14 Thread Chris Chileshe
Hi John, I am not familiar with GOST and I don't doubt there are people on this forum better informed to address your query. What I do know is that CE is not required outside the scope of the EU membership. At present, AFAIK, the EU member states are: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland,

EU manufacturers

2001-09-14 Thread Peter Merguerian
Jon, Manufacturer B should be confident with manufacturer's A Technical File before he places product in the market. Manufacturer B should not only provide a DoC bust also hold the Manufacturer A's Technical File. If manufacturer A has a problem giving their technical file to manufacturer B

RE: CE Mark

2001-09-14 Thread amund
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:37:31 +0100 Chris Chileshe chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk wrote: However, the CE mark is a declaration of conformity and you can self certify. Self certify ? Yes, that is OK for LVD- and EMC directives. But a lot of the EU directives require work/certification from a

Re: EU manufacturers

2001-09-14 Thread Andrew Carson
A technical construction file is still required by manufacturer B. But in this case it might consist of nothing more than a reference to Manufacturers A goods, there DOC and why manufactures B product is different. i.e. It has a different name on the front. Myself I would go a little further

EU manufacturers

2001-09-14 Thread Jon Jones
I hope someone can set me straight on the following matter regarding Technical Construction Documentation (LVD) in the following scenario: Manufacturer A produces and sells a product to the market and also sells it to Manufacturer B, Manufacturer B just re-names the product and also sells the

Need electrical characteristics of epidermis (skin)

2001-09-14 Thread Robert Macy
Sorry to post here but am running into a brick wall at trying to find out something as simple as the resistivity and dielectric constant for skin! Does anybody have a source? Need quick, please. - Robert - --- This message is

CE Mark and GOST

2001-09-14 Thread Bouse, John
Hello Group, Is the CE Mark sufficient to allow products (laboratory instruments, for example) to be sold/shipped into the Russian Federation, or is the GOST mark also required? Regards, John Bouse PKI Shelton, CT USA ===