Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-12-03 Thread Charlie Blackham
-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) In message 3a33c563-1637-4755-b1ef-8247792e6...@conformance.co.ukmailto:3a33c563-1637-4755-b1ef-8247792e6...@conformance.co.uk, dated Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Nick Williams nick.willi

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-12-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message 3f0347ac6ed9504191f91f07629fbb0c01503...@thhsle14mbx2.hslive.net, dated Mon, 3 Dec 2012, Charlie Blackham char...@sulisconsultants.com writes: It?s covered in the Europa Interpretation of the RTTE Directive:

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-12-03 Thread Michael Derby
: Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) It's covered in the Europa Interpretation of the RTTE Directive: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/documents/interpretation/index_e n.htm#h2-23 regards Charlie -Original Message- From

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-12-03 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
 Before printing, think about the environment. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens John Woodgate Verzonden: Monday, December 03, 2012 9:43 AM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-12-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA489140B6B@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Mon, 3 Dec 2012, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: 3. Member States shall ensure that the manufacturer or the person responsible for placing the apparatus on the market provides

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-30 Thread Helge Knudsen
To: 'Nick Williams'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: SV: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) RTTE does not say anything about the language of the DOC, right? #Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sendt

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-30 Thread Amund Westin
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: RE: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) Hello Amund, Yes it does, see http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/documents/interpretation/index_e n.htm#h2-23 Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-30 Thread John Woodgate
In message 3a33c563-1637-4755-b1ef-8247792e6...@conformance.co.uk, dated Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Nick Williams nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk writes: AIUI, the R+TTE Directive also requires this, and there are others which do the same. Article 6 3. of the RTTED says: 3. Member States shall

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-30 Thread Nick Williams
Surely 'information for the user..' has to accompany every unit and if the DofC has to accompany the information then it does not seem to me there is much room for doubt that the Directive requires a Declaration to accompany every unit. Can you explain the basis on which you think this is not

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-30 Thread John Woodgate
In message e19151f8-1651-4cbf-89d9-9dbc15a6e...@conformance.co.uk, dated Fri, 30 Nov 2012, Nick Williams nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk writes: Surely 'information for the user..' has to accompany every unit and if the DofC has to accompany the information then it does not seem to me there

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-29 Thread Kunde, Brian
EU DOCs are not what you would call a wordy document. Most of the text would not get translated anyway, such as manufacturer name, address, product models, references to directives and standards, etc.. There would only be a few lines of text that would need to be translated in 23 to 26

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-29 Thread Amund Westin
regards Amund Fra: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sendt: 29. november 2012 15:27 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) EU DOCs are not what you would call a wordy document. Most of the text would not get

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-29 Thread John Woodgate
In message 01cdce3f$1e74e050$5b5ea0f0$@no, dated Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Amund Westin am...@westin-emission.no writes: Some of ours DoC contain references to RTTE, MED and even CPD. Now ROHS must be included as well. With EUT product and manufacture information the DoC will be a full A4 page.

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-29 Thread Jim Hulbert
29, 2012 10:46 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: SV: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) In message 01cdce3f$1e74e050$5b5ea0f0$@no, dated Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Amund Westin am...@westin-emission.no writes: Some of ours DoC contain references to RTTE

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-29 Thread Helge Knudsen
. november 2012 15:38 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: SV: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) Some of ours DoC contain references to RTTE, MED and even CPD. Now ROHS must be included as well. With EUT product and manufacture information the DoC

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-29 Thread John Woodgate
In message 7b9d892f88f070469771832d78b3086e0f6...@013-br1mpn1-011.mgdpbi.global.pvt , dated Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Jim Hulbert jim.hulb...@pb.com writes: Does the above mean the DoC must be supplied with each piece of equipment, or as John stated: One full copy should go with every shipment that

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-29 Thread John Woodgate
In message 01cdce54$56fabca0$04f035e0$@tele.dk, dated Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Helge Knudsen hknud...@mail.tele.dk writes: If the directive defines that a full DoC shall  be delivered with the product, I will deliver one in English and a sheet with a general in the EU languages as set up for the

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-29 Thread Nick Williams
A DofC must go with every unit. AIUI, the R+TTE Directive also requires this, and there are others which do the same. Nick. On 29 Nov 2012, at 16:18, Jim Hulbert jim.hulb...@pb.com wrote: From article 5 of the Machinery Directive, the manufacturer or authorized representative shall,

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-29 Thread Pete Perkins
Monrad, et al, Lot's of discussion trying to determine how many ways the pie could be cut. From what little I know about all of this I will continue to recommend that my clients reproduce the text of the MDoC in the instruction manual in such a way that it will be translated

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-29 Thread Amund Westin
RTTE does not say anything about the language of the DOC, right? #Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sendt: 29. november 2012 18:06 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations

[PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-28 Thread Monrad Monsen
RoHS Directive 2011/65/EU, Article 13 (EU Declaration of Conformity) section 2 states: The EU declaration of conformity ... shall be translated into the language or languages required by the Member State on the market of which the product is placed or made available. This raises some

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-28 Thread Peter_Kelleher
Some good questions there: What language is 'required' is up to each member state to decide. Some may well accept English (as they have done for many years) but the new wording does offer them some additional flexibility. There are precedents for certain countries requesting localised DoCs.

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-28 Thread Knighten, Jim L
, 2012 12:43 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) RoHS Directive 2011/65/EU, Article 13 (EU Declaration of Conformity) section 2 states: The EU declaration of conformity ... shall be translated into the language

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-28 Thread Nick Williams
There is a list of the official languages in the Commission Guide to the Machinery Directive, available here: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/mechanical/machinery/ See §246. English will not suffice - if the Directive says the Declaration needs to be translated, then it needs to be in

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-11-28 Thread Knighten, Jim L
- fax (unattended) From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:24 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) There is a list of the official languages in the Commission