Re: [PSES] safety distances in DC/DC

2015-01-14 Thread John Woodgate
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Re: [PSES] safety distances in DC/DC

2015-01-14 Thread Boštjan Glavič
-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] safety distances in DC/DC In message blupr02mb11639e55993bee1e45c09ffc1...@blupr02mb116.namprd02.prod.outlookmailto:blupr02mb11639e55993bee1e45c09ffc1...@blupr02mb116.namprd02.prod.outlook .com, dated Wed, 14 Jan 2015, Brian Oconnell oconne

Re: [PSES] safety distances in DC/DC

2015-01-14 Thread Richard Nute
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Re: [PSES] safety distances in DC/DC

2015-01-14 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Grounded SELV is PELV in EN 60204-1. -Dave -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:59 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] safety distances in DC/DC In message blupr02mb116d0a3db08c7130da56befc1

Re: [PSES] safety distances in DC/DC

2015-01-14 Thread Boštjan Glavič
] safety distances in DC/DC Dear Boštjan: a) If internal distances input to output comply with functional insulation only, fault condition tests need to be performed on functional insulation (including transformer) in order to be sure that output remains SELV. In addition, transformer

Re: [PSES] safety distances in DC/DC

2015-01-14 Thread Brian Oconnell
PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] safety distances in DC/DC Dear experts, We are evaluating DC/DC converter with SELV-in/SELV-out specification according to IEC 60950-1. We have measured internal working voltages on the transformer between input and output side and they were

Re: [PSES] safety distances in DC/DC

2015-01-14 Thread John Woodgate
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Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors

2015-01-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
models, but only an EIS. Note that UL1446 does not scope any performance requirements for any class of end-use equipment. Brian From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:45 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors Hi Brian

[PSES] safety distances in DC/DC

2015-01-13 Thread Boštjan Glavič
to avoid fault condition tests. I am quite positive about scenario a) and c) but not sure about scenario b). Thank you for your support. Best regards, Boštjan Glavič - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society

Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors

2015-01-13 Thread Richard Nute
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Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors

2015-01-13 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
that the recognition applies to all motors from the OEM for a series for example with a certain prefix in the part/model number. -Dave From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:45 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors Hi

[PSES] Safety of Small Motors

2015-01-13 Thread Kunde, Brian
We want to use a small air pump, about the size of an aquarium pump, in one of our products (laboratory equipment). It has a small 24Vdc brushed motor without any visible safety certification markings. In these cases, we usually perform the locked rotor test according to IEC/UL/EN 61010-1

Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors

2015-01-13 Thread John Woodgate
Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk When I turn my back on the sun, it's to look for a rainbow John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering

Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors

2015-01-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
in the end-use installation to verify the component meets the original safety assessment. Avoid using the term 'inherently' unless the component has been assessed and there is certification. If the motor is an UL- recognized component, then there will be a file number, designation, and conditions

Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors

2015-01-13 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
, 2015 4:09 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors Clauses 6, 9, and 10 provide definition of a hazard and a hazardous condition. Some motors are designed with a section of the winding to act as a fusible link, so not unreasonable for a section of the winding

Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors

2015-01-13 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
was very thorough). -Dave -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:37 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors No. As for an EIS, the UL file will specify this in the respective

Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors

2015-01-13 Thread Kunde, Brian
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB026CA9B0@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local, dated Tue, 13 Jan 2015, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: If the winding overheated and melted open, would this be considered a fire hazard? Not just

Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors

2015-01-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
at the UL report's conditions of acceptability. Brian -Original Message- From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 1:28 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors I've been told that UL does

Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors

2015-01-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
13, 2015 1:34 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety of Small Motors The pump manufacturer just sent me a picture of the motor name plate which must somehow be hidden from view when installed in the pump assembly. Anyway, the motor is made in Germany and has the CE marking

[PSES] Hi pressure Gas safety regulations

2014-12-12 Thread W Richard Gartman
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Re: [PSES] Hi pressure Gas safety regulations

2014-12-12 Thread Crane, Lauren
...@agilent.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 1:10 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Hi pressure Gas safety regulations To the Collective knowledge of this group, I am looking for regulations that would impact lab or industrial equipment that uses high pressure gases

Re: [PSES] Hi pressure Gas safety regulations

2014-12-12 Thread Brian Oconnell
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Hi pressure Gas safety regulations To the Collective knowledge of this group, I am looking for regulations that would impact lab or industrial equipment that uses high pressure gases. This would be gases at pressures up to 600 Bar/ 8000 psi

[PSES] Call for IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society BoD Officers Nominations 2014

2014-08-20 Thread Dan Roman
In accordance with the PSES bylaws, candidate nominations are now being accepted for the 2014 IEEE Annual Elections of officers for the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society (PSES) Board of Directors for a two year term, beginning January 1, 2015. Open positions are: * Secretary

[PSES] EN60204 Safety of machinery - Electrical equipemnt of machines

2014-06-27 Thread Ian White (SXS UK)
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Re: [PSES] EN60204 Safety of machinery - Electrical equipemnt of machines

2014-06-27 Thread Crane, Lauren
, 2014 4:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN60204 Safety of machinery - Electrical equipemnt of machines Could l please have your feedback. EN60204 appears in the OJ for the Machinery Directive, (MD) but does not give a Presumption of conformity as it is not classified as B or C

Re: [PSES] EN60204 Safety of machinery - Electrical equipemnt of machines

2014-06-27 Thread Nick Williams
the presumption of conformity or do we just have to use a different standard ? Regards Ian White Compliance and Reliability. Nick Williams Director Direct line: +44 1298 873811 Mobile: +44 7702 995135 email: nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk - Conformance Ltd - Product safety, approvals

Re: [PSES] Safety Interlock Switches

2014-06-12 Thread Scott Douglas
; it has a combination safe holding the interlock. Cortland Richmond - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] Safety Interlock Switches

2014-06-11 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
AM To: Nyffenegger, Dave Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety Interlock Switches I had a very similar situation. Are you using a CK or Omron switch? I also remember seeing the switch and thinking it looks like the door light switch from an old refrigerator. I have a very

Re: [PSES] Safety Interlock Switches

2014-06-11 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
to get some general feedback on the specific questions independent of the PLr. Thanks -Dave From: Douglas Nix [mailto:d...@ieee.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:32 AM To: Nyffenegger, Dave Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG; ibm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety Interlock Switches Dave

Re: [PSES] Safety Interlock Switches

2014-06-11 Thread CR
the equipment to powered up for troubleshooting? The 300 Kg office copier; it has a combination safe holding the interlock. Cortland Richmond - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list

Re: [PSES] Safety Interlock Switches

2014-06-11 Thread Paul Milton
and any attachments. *From:* Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:51 AM *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] Safety Interlock Switches Machinery Directive and LVD are most certainly applicable to the products in question

[PSES] Safety Interlock Switches

2014-06-10 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
with these standards so one question is if those standards in anyway qualify or disqualify (by using the switch in a way not intended) the switch for use as a safety interlock. I thought I read in one of the safety standards that interlock switches should be designed/rated to last the lifetime of the equipment

Re: [PSES] Safety Interlock Switches

2014-06-10 Thread IBM Ken
for the application. I'm not familiar with these standards so one question is if those standards in anyway qualify or disqualify (by using the switch in a way not intended) the switch for use as a safety interlock. I thought I read in one of the safety standards that interlock switches should

[PSES] Safety labelling of domestic appliances for the Indian market

2014-03-04 Thread Jacob Gleeson
Hello, Would anyone know the safety labelling requirements for domestic appliances, specifically microwave ovens, sold in the Indian market? I have looked at the CB bulletin but there are no additional requirements for India, I've also looked at the BIS website but found nothing of use

Re: [PSES] Safety labeling of domestic appliances for the Indian market

2014-03-04 Thread Knudsen, Patricia
to deal with as they are apt to change with little or no notice. Good luck. Regards, Patty Knudsen PRODUCT SAFETY ENGINEERING 17095 Via del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-3748 Teradata Analytic Data Platforms | Applications | Services patricia.knud...@teradata.commailto:patricia.knud

[PSES] Gold medal for product safety?

2014-02-18 Thread Willard Bradley-G13637
Esteemed colleagues, Is there any type of award or recognition for product safety either at a product level or at a company level? Do any of the industry design awards include product safety as part of their evaluation criteria? If not, is this an area that the IEEE Product Safety

Re: [PSES] Gold medal for product safety?

2014-02-18 Thread Richard Nute
://www.psessymposium.org/ Rich On 2/18/2014 9:45 AM, Willard Bradley-G13637 wrote: Esteemed colleagues, Is there any type of award or recognition for product safety either at a product level or at a company level? Do any of the industry design awards include product safety as part

Re: [PSES] Gold medal for product safety?

2014-02-18 Thread Steli Loznen
. From: Willard Bradley-G13637 [mailto:bradley.will...@motorolasolutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:46 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Gold medal for product safety? Esteemed colleagues, Is there any type of award or recognition for product safety either

[PSES] Machinery Safety Regulations in Canada

2014-02-12 Thread Jim Hulbert
I'm looking for information regarding machinery safety regulations in Canada. We have been told by customers in Ontario that a Pre-Start Health Safety Review is required by a Professional Engineer, although I don't know if that is in fact a legal requirement or under what circumstances

Re: [PSES] General Product Safety Directive

2014-01-31 Thread Scott Xe
://ec.europa.eu/consumers/safety/prod_legis/index_en.htm Article 3.3 of the GPSD discusses the hierarchy for demonstration of compliance through application of standards and/or other documents. Regards Charlie -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 29

Re: [PSES] General Product Safety Directive

2014-01-31 Thread Nick Williams
Scott, There is no Declaration required for the GPSD, so the question does not arise. Charlie is correct that the GPSD is a catch-all which applies where other safety directives such as those which require CE marking do not, but it’s probably also worth making two other points: 1. The GPSD

Re: [PSES] General Product Safety Directive

2014-01-29 Thread Charlie Blackham
Scott Is this directive applicable to all products? No - it's more of a catch-all for consumer products not covered by other (CE marking) directives. More information http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/safety/prod_legis/index_en.htm Article 3.3 of the GPSD discusses the hierarchy

[PSES] General Product Safety Directive

2014-01-28 Thread Scott Xe
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[PSES] Product Safety Job openings at Munich Germany.

2014-01-22 Thread Zhangguoqing (A)
Hello Everyone, We are currently looking for Electrical Safety Expert Consultants to establish Power Innovation and Research Center in Munich Germany. You are an experienced electrical safety expert with worldwide vision, with excellent understanding of safety standard VDE0100, IEC60364, IEC/EN

[PSES] LED Indicator Safety

2014-01-13 Thread Kunde, Brian
angles and distance the light causes no discomfort to look at it. The IEC/EN/UL/CSA 61010-1 safety standard only includes information about UV light. The EUT is classified as Laboratory Equipment. My Google research mentions the standard IEC 60825 and IEC 62471 and test method ANSI/IESNA RP-27

Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety

2014-01-13 Thread Anthony Thomson
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety Greetings to all. I'm being asked by Engineering regarding the brightness of a Green LED Indicator they want to use on the front of an upcoming product. The LED is quite bright and is used with a Light Pipe which shows through the front

Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety

2014-01-13 Thread Wiseman, Joshua E
[mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [External] [PSES] LED Indicator Safety Greetings to all. I'm being asked by Engineering regarding the brightness of a Green LED Indicator they want to use on the front of an upcoming

Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety

2014-01-13 Thread Kunde, Brian
Engineering a value and tell them to keep their LEDs below that level and you will have no problem. Thanks, The Other Brian From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 10:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety Hello Brian

Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety

2014-01-13 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Sounds like a question for an optometrist or ophthalmologist. -Dave From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 4:32 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety They want the LED itself to be bright so it shines through

Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety

2014-01-13 Thread Paasche, Dieter
or telephone and delete it and any attachments from your computer system and records. From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 4:32 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety They want the LED itself to be bright so it shines

Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety

2014-01-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety Sounds like a question for an optometrist or ophthalmologist. -Dave From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 4:32 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety They want the LED

Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety

2014-01-13 Thread John Woodgate
(specifically in EN 60950-1:2006+A12:2011). You probably need to look at these: IEC 62471 Edition 1.0 (2006-07-26) Photobiological safety of lamps and lamp systems IEC/TR 62471-2 Edition 1.0 (2009-08-06) Photobiological safety of lamps and lamp systems - Part 2: Guidance on manufacturing

Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety

2014-01-13 Thread John Woodgate
have very strange ideas. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Nondum ex silvis sumus John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety

Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety

2014-01-13 Thread Ted Eckert
: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety They want the LED itself to be bright so it shines through the Light Pipe with good intensity. LED brightness is a relative thing. If your product is used in a relatively dark ambient room the indicators appear too bright (get out the black tape). But it if is installed

Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety

2014-01-13 Thread Boštjan Glavič
and 200 nm), the value of IEC 62471 for 200 nm is used. Best regards, Bostjan -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 11:12 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] LED Indicator Safety In message

Re: [PSES] EMI is a safety concern

2014-01-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message 17a89daa0a5a44ba927bece934633...@blupr02mb116.namprd02.prod.outlook.com , dated Thu, 2 Jan 2014, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes: Is IEC61000-1-2 intended to supplement or obsolete IEC61508? No; IEC 61508 is about functional safety **in general**, not just about

[PSES] EMI is a safety concern

2014-01-02 Thread dougp01
Some years ago there was a discussion thread on this forum about safety implications of EMC. Plenty of member war stories were mentioned. Stories like the radio used by an EMT interfering with life support equipment and so on. In my view this really is about public safety. Non-interference

Re: [PSES] EMI is a safety concern

2014-01-02 Thread John Woodgate
In message 20140102195816.5320843.77757.6...@gmail.com, dated Thu, 2 Jan 2014, dougp01 doug...@gmail.com writes: Some years ago there was a discussion thread on this forum about safety implications of EMC.   Plenty of member war stories were mentioned. Stories like the radio used by an EMT

Re: [PSES] EMI is a safety concern

2014-01-02 Thread Brian Oconnell
Is IEC61000-1-2 intended to supplement or obsolete IEC61508? What is 'intent' of TC77 for IEC 61000-6-7? As IEC61000-1-2 is a functional safety thingy, does this mean that IEC62368-1 will never reference? Is there a CENELEC or IEC or ISO guidance doc for when to use, and for the selection

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-16 Thread McBurney, Ian
Hello Rich; Can I suggest to the safety testing agency to disconnect or stall the fan rotor for all testing? Would this then mean the CFM rating for the cooling fan would not be required? Regards; Ian McBurney Design Compliance Engineer. Allen Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-16 Thread Richard Nute
-- but not much -- in the equipment. Best wishes for the holiday season, Richard Nute Product Safety Consultant Bend, Oregon, U.S.A. On 12/16/2013 1:30 AM, McBurney, Ian wrote: Hello Rich; Can I suggest to the safety testing agency to disconnect or stall the fan rotor for all testing? Would

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-16 Thread Peter Tarver
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Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-16 Thread McInturff, Gary
Stalling would like be required by the agency anyway since a typical failure is a jam or bearing failure that would lock the rotor. Gary From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:03 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety

[PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread McBurney, Ian
This is a question for the safety testing engineers. We have products that contain 12V/24V DC cooling fans that cool either the PSU or processing circuits. The fan speeds are reduced with basically a series resistor to reduce audio noise. The safety testing agency demands to know the exact

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread John Woodgate
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Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread McBurney, Ian
- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 13 December 2013 10:34 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query In message 80f690de07894e049b221728b4a99...@dbxpr07mb206.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com , dated Fri, 13 Dec 2013, McBurney, Ian ian.mcbur...@allen

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread John Woodgate
whether UL have confirmed electrical safety, because if not, the test house is probably justified. So you would need to list all the fans that could be used, or find a less exacting test house. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Nondum ex silvis sumus John

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread Allen, Chris
. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 13 December 2013 11:23 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query In message ed08bb5be2d841e0a1b0ca499f924...@dbxpr07mb206.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com , dated Fri, 13 Dec 2013

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread John Allen
. Regards John Allen Compliance with Experience W.London. UK -Original Message- From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: 13 December 2013 11:05 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query John; I believe the fans are listed

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread McBurney, Ian
Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com -Original Message- From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 13 December 2013 13:31 To: McBurney, Ian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Cooling fan safety

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread John Allen
[mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: 13 December 2013 13:55 To: John Allen; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query John; I agree the airflow rates will vary with applied voltage and blade profile but if the product continues to function safely with a stalled rotor why

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread John Woodgate
silvis sumus John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread McBurney, Ian
2013 14:18 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query In message ff0018ae2af54a2b95bfa760f8747...@dbxpr07mb206.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com , dated Fri, 13 Dec 2013, McBurney, Ian ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com writes: but if the product continues to function safely

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread Brown,William
to privilege have not been waived. . -Original Message- From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:55 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query John; I agree the airflow rates will vary with applied

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread John Woodgate
the crucial question! -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Nondum ex silvis sumus John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread John Allen
n.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] >Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:55 AM >To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >Subject: Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query > >John; > >I agree the airflow rates will vary with applied voltage and blade profile but if the product continues to function "safely&quo

Re: [PSES] [External] Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread Wiseman, Joshua E
: [External] Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query In message c8225bb6612e4cf382ba4b073e71d...@dbxpr07mb206.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com , dated Fri, 13 Dec 2013, McBurney, Ian ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com writes: I have often asked for the reasoning to many similar problems and get directed

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread Wiseman, Joshua E
: [External] Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query A locked rotor test is considered an abnormal and measured temperatures are allowed to exceed the limits for normal operation. If that happens, then it proves a minimal amount of airflow is required to maintain safe temperatures and minimal CFMs

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread Charlie Blackham
fans, how is the temperature test being done - at ambient with deltas or in a thermal chamber? Regards Charlie -Original Message- From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: 13 December 2013 13:55 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread Peter Tarver
Ian - Another consideration, since you have more than one fan, is that you can disable *all* fans simultaneously to demonstrate that no cooling is necessary for safety reasons. This is a multiple fault scenario, but it's at your discretion to do so to prove your case and eliminates the need

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread Richard Nute
compliance with the temperature requirements would not be dependent on the CFM rating. If no, then the fan can be removed (or disconnected) and the end-product should meet all the applicable safety requirements, including the temperature requirements. Under this condition, the fan is just another

Re: [PSES] Automotive safety in the USA

2013-12-11 Thread Brian Oconnell
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Automotive safety in the USA Hello, has anybody a clue which US regulatory authority is responsbile for the following question: As a representative of a German automobile supplier, we are looking for legal provisions in the USA regarding fuel lines

[PSES] Automotive safety in the USA

2013-12-10 Thread loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de
Loerzer Globalnorm GmbH - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived

[PSES] Job openings for Product Safety/EMC Engineers and Technicians in US and Taiwan

2013-12-02 Thread Kealey, Doug
, NFC) and services like Digital TV, HD traffic, local gas prices, ATM locations and movie times. * Leads compliance and safety design review meetings. * Teams with mechanical and electrical engineering to launch best-in-class navigation systems with the latest technologies

[PSES] Job openings for Product Safety/EMC Engineers and Technicians in US and Taiwan

2013-11-22 Thread Kealey, Doug
.). * Leads compliance and safety design review meetings. * Teams with mechanical and electrical engineering to launch best-in-class navigation systems with the latest technologies and processors. * Develops and then communicates the compliance plan elements, expectations

[PSES] Considering TUV Rheinland's Functional Safety Engineer Certification

2013-11-20 Thread Douglas Nix
Colleagues, Does anyone have any personal experience with TUV Rheinland’s Functional Safety Engineer Certification Program? I am considering certification as more and more of my activity is in this area. I would like to hear from anyone with any personal experience with this program, either

[PSES] informative documents -- safety

2013-10-04 Thread Richard Nute
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[PSES] EMC/Safety requirements in Algeria

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Loerzer
Hello, does anybody has regulatory knowledge regarding EMC and safety requirements in Algeria? Product: eletrical test system for radar components. Best regards Dipl.-Ing. Michael Loerzer Managing Director Regulatory Affairs Specialist Globalnorm GmbH Kurfürstenstr. 112 10787

Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude

2013-09-06 Thread Greg McClure
We spec an operating altitude to 3000 m (10,000 feet. sometimes 9800 or 9500 ft, depends on who did the math). We have moved most of our power supplies to 5000 m in the CQC report for the supply in order to allow us to claim compliance with the safety requirement to 5000 m in China. We have

Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude and GDT

2013-09-06 Thread mark gandler
: Thursday, September 05, 2013 10:42 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude Exactly, I only listed what we have tested for CB in general. I know that Peru has no national deviations but many cities are above 3000m. Best regards, Bostjan -Original Message

Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude and GDT

2013-09-06 Thread Bill Owsley
what sort of 'requirements' will be imposed. From: mark gandler markgand...@hotmail.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude and GDT Thank you everyone for sending your feedbacks. Asking

[PSES] Safety and Altitude

2013-09-05 Thread Mark Gandler
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Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude

2013-09-05 Thread IBM Ken
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Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude

2013-09-05 Thread Boštjan Glavič
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[PSES] 答复: [PSES] Safety and Altitude

2013-09-05 Thread Paul Wang
: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] 发送时间: 2013年9月6日 11:20 收件人: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 主题: Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude In addition to 5000m and 2000m we have also approved products up to 2500m, 3048m and 4000m. Best regards, Bostjan Glavic SIQ On 6. sep. 2013, at 03:12, IBM Ken

Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude

2013-09-05 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Glavič; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: 答复: [PSES] Safety and Altitude For China CCC, there is no 2500m, 3048m, only 2000m and 5000m. So you have the choice to add the altitude symbol to show the using condition is below 2000m, or you can test the clearance distance to meet the higher altitude

[PSES] Product Safety Standard

2013-09-03 Thread Mark Schmidt
Hello Group, I am really struggling with this one. Can anyone point me in the right direction for a product safety requirement on a (12, 24, or 36 VDC) trolling motor. It is utilizing a 2.4 GHz transceivers for control (key fobs and foot pedal). For product safety I think UL 1112 may apply

Re: [PSES] Product Safety Standard

2013-09-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message 119fa9545c6e264b830c4582886d119068b10...@quimby.dw.local, dated Tue, 3 Sep 2013, Mark Schmidt mark.schm...@dornerworks.com writes: Can anyone point me in the right direction for a product safety requirement on a (12, 24, or 36 VDC) trolling motor. What is a trolling motor? -- OOO

Re: [PSES] Product Safety Standard

2013-09-03 Thread Mark Schmidt
-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Product Safety Standard In message 119fa9545c6e264b830c4582886d119068b10...@quimby.dw.local, dated Tue, 3 Sep 2013, Mark Schmidt mark.schm...@dornerworks.com writes: Can anyone point me in the right direction for a product safety requirement on a (12, 24

Re: [PSES] Product Safety Standard

2013-09-03 Thread Scott
: Hello Group, I am really struggling with this one. Can anyone point me in the right direction for a product safety requirement on a (12, 24, or 36 VDC) trolling motor. It is utilizing a 2.4 GHz transceivers for control (key fobs and foot pedal). For product safety I think UL 1112 may apply

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