[PSES] IEC / EN 62368-1 Annex E

2023-09-05 Thread Chris Wordley
Hello experts I have a question about how Annex E of EN 62368-1:2020 should be interpreted. Does the classification of the audio amplifier output terminals need to be done with the worst case out-of-phase audio signals (to give the maximum channel to channel voltage) or with the signals in

Re: [PSES] e-Labeling

2023-04-03 Thread Scott Aldous
cannot be affixed to the product itself,** you can > affix it to the packaging if there is any, or to any accompanying > documents. If your product is subject to several EU directives/regulations > which require a CE marking to be affixed, the accompanying documents must > indicate that your

Re: [PSES] e-Labeling

2023-04-03 Thread bart . de . geeter
re is any, or to any accompanying documents. If your product is subject to several EU directives/regulations which require a CE marking to be affixed, the accompanying documents must indicate that your product conforms to all applicable EU directives/regulations. So I guess e-labelling

[PSES] e-Labeling

2023-04-02 Thread 000006cee064502d-dmarc-request
Hello group, Does anyone know if EU accepts e-Labeling for IT products?  Thank youPeter - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to

Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-22 Thread John E Allen
generally been very good. John E Allen W.London, UK From: Scott Xe Sent: 20 August 2022 16:51 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes Dan, It appears to me that Bosch's products are well designed and made in general and agree to have

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-22 Thread Douglas E Powell
That is very interesting, and there's something to be said about timing. -Doug Douglas E Powell Laporte, Colorado USA doug...@gmail.com LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/coloradocomplianceguy/> (UTC -06:00) Mountain Time (US-MDT) On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 10:14 AM Ted Eckert w

Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-22 Thread Douglas E Powell
Thank you Scott, -Doug Douglas E Powell Laporte, Colorado USA doug...@gmail.com LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/coloradocomplianceguy/> (UTC -06:00) Mountain Time (US-MDT) On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 8:30 AM Scott Xe wrote: > Dear Doug, > > Panasonic, ATL/CATL, BYD, Samsu

Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-20 Thread Scott Xe
Dan, It appears to me that Bosch's products are well designed and made in general and agree to have high confidence in their products. Rgds, Scott On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 at 21:30, Dan Roman < 0d75e04ed751-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > Doug/Scott, > > > &

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-19 Thread Ted Eckert
By coincidence, there was a notice in today's Federal Register that OSHA is extending UL's scope of recognition to add two standards. * UL 2272: Standard for electrical systems and personal e-mobility devices * UL 2849: Standard for electrical systems for eBikes Ted Eckert Th

Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-19 Thread Scott Xe
Dear Doug, Panasonic, ATL/CATL, BYD, Samsung, LG are good batteries for this type of product. Regards, Scott On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 at 22:37, Douglas E Powell wrote: > Thanks Dan, > > So I have to wonder what brand lithium battery Bosch is using. And this > is a great starting poi

Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-19 Thread Scott Xe
& EN 61558-2-16 o EN 15194 : 2017 Best regards, Scott On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 at 22:37, Douglas E Powell wrote: > Thanks Dan, > > So I have to wonder what brand lithium battery Bosch is using. And this > is a great starting point for me to dig in a little. > > -Doug

Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-18 Thread Douglas E Powell
Thanks Dan, So I have to wonder what brand lithium battery Bosch is using. And this is a great starting point for me to dig in a little. -Doug Douglas E Powell Laporte, Colorado USA doug...@gmail.com LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/coloradocomplianceguy/> (UTC -06:00) Mountain Ti

Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-18 Thread David Schaefer
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Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-18 Thread Dan Roman
Doug/Scott, My wife’s e-bike has a Bosch motor and battery and seems to be well made and certified so I am comfortable storing and charging it in my garage. Included a picture of the label with agency marks, sorry it is a little blurry. So I think there are definitely safety schemes

Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-17 Thread Scott Xe
Dear Doug, I learned that China prohibits carrying e-scooters and e-bikes to their houses and even entering the lifts of the building for storage/charging. Since the battery capacity is much bigger than the li-ion battery using in normal portable devices, the battery and the charger must comply

[PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-12 Thread Douglas E Powell
All, My Friday question is about storage/charging of e-scooters and e-bikes. It seems that these days more and more people are using these devices and fire safety is a growing concern. It seems my news feed has a new instance every few days. Some of these cases are very tragic outcomes, in that

Re: [PSES] Using E-Stop in a Non-Emergency Task

2022-06-01 Thread Douglas E Powell
I would use caution. I have looked into this in the past and possibly there have been recent developments that would change what I learned. My main concern is the cycle life rating of the switch. For what ever reason, many E-Stop switches had a rating of only a few thousand cycles while your

Re: [PSES] Using E-Stop in a Non-Emergency Task

2022-05-31 Thread IBM Ken
ddition, power is > removed from the Start Button circuit so the motor cannot unexpectedly > start. > > When the E-Stop button is pressed, it does the same as the Door Switch > above, but in addition, it also opens the Motor Enable Relay which removes > the 3-phase power from the V

[PSES] Using E-Stop in a Non-Emergency Task

2022-05-31 Thread Brian Kunde
. In addition, power is removed from the Start Button circuit so the motor cannot unexpectedly start. When the E-Stop button is pressed, it does the same as the Door Switch above, but in addition, it also opens the Motor Enable Relay which removes the 3-phase power from the VFD. Now the motor really r

[PSES] EMO vs E-Stop - New post on machinerysafety101.com

2022-02-08 Thread Doug Nix
9-5704 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments a

Re: [PSES] e-Labeling

2021-04-29 Thread 000006cee064502d-dmarc-request
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Re: [PSES] e-Labeling

2021-04-21 Thread Pete Perkins
there accompanying documentation providing it? :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant PO Box 1067 Albany, ORe 97321-0413 503/452-1201 IEEE Life Fellow IEEE PSES 2020 Distinguished Lecturer

[PSES] e-Labeling

2021-04-21 Thread 000006cee064502d-dmarc-request
Hello group, Do we know if EU accepts e-Labeling or not? ThanksPeter #yiv8202150213 -- filtered {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}#yiv8202150213 filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv8202150213 p.yiv8202150213MsoNormal, #yiv8202150213 li.yiv8202150213MsoNormal

Re: [PSES] e-mark

2021-01-09 Thread David Schaefer
Derek, There are two marks – e-mark and E-mark. Lower case ‘e’ was used for the EU’s automotive directives (95/54/EC and 2004/104/EC) as well as the agricultural equipment directive (2015/208/EC). About 10 years back the EU switched compliance for non-ag vehicles to the UN regulatory framework

[PSES] e-mark

2021-01-09 Thread DEREK WALTON
Good morning folks, We are positioning our EMC lab to perform e-mark testing. Reading the directive I’m a little confused if there is other action required besides being assessed to ISO 17025 by an organization such as NVLAP? Our scope will have all the test methods for the particular

Re: [PSES] Draft SAE ARP-958E EMI Measurement Antennas; Calibration Method: Deeply flawed Revision E is nearing completion and balloting

2021-01-05 Thread Ken Javor
: [PSES] Draft SAE ARP-958E EMI Measurement Antennas; Calibration Method: Deeply flawed Revision E is nearing completion and balloting Estonian Standards are great If you purchase a 2 user licence (about 25% more), you can copy/paste text and are not restricted to single PC/laptop Best regards

Re: [PSES] Draft SAE ARP-958E EMI Measurement Antennas; Calibration Method: Deeply flawed Revision E is nearing completion and balloting

2021-01-05 Thread Charlie Blackham
Wales, number 05466247 From: Ken Wyatt Sent: 05 January 2021 15:56 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Draft SAE ARP-958E EMI Measurement Antennas; Calibration Method: Deeply flawed Revision E is nearing completion and balloting Hi Ken, You can get the EN version of CISPR 25 from

Re: [PSES] Draft SAE ARP-958E EMI Measurement Antennas; Calibration Method: Deeply flawed Revision E is nearing completion and balloting

2021-01-05 Thread Ken Wyatt
> Ken Javor > Phone: (256) 650-5261 > > > From: John Woodgate > > Organization: J M Woodgate and Associates > Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:02:10 + > To: Ken Javor >, > > Subject: Re: [PSES] Draft SAE ARP-958E EMI Measurement Antennas; Calibration > Method:

Re: [PSES] Will there be an IEC electrical safety standard for E-cigarettes?

2020-12-13 Thread Ari Honkala
Regarding e-cigarettes, it’s not too difficult to fathom how compliance with IEC electrical safety standard may be presented as the product being “safe”. Regards, Ari Honkala From: Bob Griffin Sent: perjantai 11. joulukuuta 2020 19.29 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Will

Re: [PSES] Will there be an IEC electrical safety standard for E-cigarettes?

2020-12-11 Thread Joe Randolph
Thanks to everyone who has responded to my question about IEC standards for E-cigarettes. From reading all the responses, here is my current understanding: 1) For ELECTRICAL SAFETY of E-cigarettes and vaping devices, the currently applicable standard is 60335-1. 2) Work

Re: [PSES] Will there be an IEC electrical safety standard for E-cigarettes?

2020-12-11 Thread Bob Griffin
website. A broader or related issue was considered by IECEE management on the certification of ethically questionably products like e-cigarettes, weapons etc..(their terms, not mine) and it was referred to the IEC Conformity Assessment Board (CAB) to ensure their work is in line with IEC’s ethical

Re: [PSES] Will there be an IEC electrical safety standard for E-cigarettes?

2020-12-11 Thread Dan Roman
m.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 2:00 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Will there be an IEC electrical safety standard for E-cigarettes? Hello All: In 2018 here in the USA, UL published a Standard for Safety, UL-8139, "Electrical Systems of Electronic Cigarettes an

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Will there be an IEC electrical safety standard for E-cigarettes?

2020-12-10 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
u) > https://ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/ecigarettes_fr > > Update on European Regulation, Electronic Cigarettes | BSI America > (bsigroup.com) > https://www.bsigroup.com/en-US/medical-devices/News-center/E-updates/2016-Enews/Update-on-European-Regulation-Electronic-Cigarett

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Will there be an IEC electrical safety standard for E-cigarettes?

2020-12-10 Thread Ted Eckert
://www.bsigroup.com/en-US/medical-devices/News-center/E-updates/2016-Enews/Update-on-European-Regulation-Electronic-Cigarettes/> The following podcast has some information on the difference in approaches starting at 28 minutes. The Truth About the Vaping Crisis (Ep. 398) - Freakonomi

Re: [PSES] Will there be an IEC electrical safety standard for E-cigarettes?

2020-12-10 Thread Pete Perkins
and work to select appropriate requirements from that standard to apply to the E-cigarette unit. IEC 62368-1 is organized around hazards so it is straightforward to identify the hazards then chase the requirements in the standard. For your case you could use the present UL

[PSES] Will there be an IEC electrical safety standard for E-cigarettes?

2020-12-10 Thread Joe Randolph
Does anyone know whether such a standard is in the developmental stages within the IEC? In the meantime, the closest existing IEC standard that might be used for electrical safety of E-cigarettes appears to be IEC 60335 for "Household and Similar Electrical Appliances - Safety.&quo

[PSES] EN 61010-1 ANNEX E POLLUTION DEGREE REDUCTION

2020-09-18 Thread Rodriguez, Daniel (ESP)
Good morning everybody There is a table E.2 related to Reduction of Pollution Degrees in EN 61010-1. I am a little confuse how to use ☹ For example: If we have equipment in Pollution Degree 3 environment and we want test internally for Pollution Degree 2, we need to use an enclosure IPx7 or

Re: [PSES] EMC/E-Mark conformity tests

2020-04-21 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
From: Scott Xe Sent: 21 April 2020 17:55 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EMC/E-Mark conformity tests I have an in-car cell phone charger. According to the supplier, if it is selling alone without mentioning for cell phone charging, it does not require E-mark compliance.

[PSES] EMC/E-Mark conformity tests

2020-04-21 Thread Scott Xe
I have an in-car cell phone charger. According to the supplier, if it is selling alone without mentioning for cell phone charging, it does not require E-mark compliance. If the product mentions cell phone charging, it requires e-mark testing. How is the charger tested under EMC? What is the

[PSES] EMC Testing Required for Cables with E-Markers?

2020-02-27 Thread Chris Brown
Hello colleagues! Do (otherwise) passive cables with e-markers require EMC/EMI testing for North America and Europe? Example: USB-C cable with power delivery I don't see a specific exemption for them in the FCC regulation; however, the function of e-markers is not necessarily taken

Re: [PSES] ISO 12100: 2010(E)

2019-09-16 Thread John Woodgate
–1 and ISO 14121–1 are both replaced with ISO 12100: 2010(E).  And yet ISO TR 14121-2 remains active and available (https://www.iso.org/standard/57180.html). Throughout the 14121-2 document is reference to 14121-1, ISO 12100-1 and ISO 12100-2.  My question is, can ISO TR 14121-2 still be used for

Re: [PSES] ISO 12100: 2010(E)

2019-09-16 Thread Doug Nix
ask! Doug Nix d...@ieee.org +1 (519) 729-5704 > On 16-Sep-19, at 17:00, Douglas Powell wrote: > > All, > > It seems the old ISO 12100–1 and ISO 14121–1 are both replaced with ISO > 12100: 2010(E). And yet ISO TR 14121-2 remains active and available > (https://www.iso.or

[PSES] ISO 12100: 2010(E)

2019-09-16 Thread Douglas Powell
All, It seems the old ISO 12100–1 and ISO 14121–1 are both replaced with ISO 12100: 2010(E). And yet ISO TR 14121-2 remains active and available ( https://www.iso.org/standard/57180.html). Throughout the 14121-2 document is reference to 14121-1, ISO 12100-1 and ISO 12100-2. My question is, can

Re: [PSES] E-Stop Questions

2019-04-24 Thread Doug Nix
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Re: [PSES] E-Stop Questions

2019-04-24 Thread Mark Ortlieb
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Re: [PSES] E-Stop Questions

2019-04-24 Thread Brian Kunde
The intent is that neither flush nor extended head operators be > used for e-stop functions. More info in IEC 60947 on that. > > 2) Yellow background. Yellow backgrounds have to be big enough to provide > clear contrast with the red button operator. A tiny ring, or just a yellow > st

Re: [PSES] E-Stop Questions

2019-04-24 Thread Doug Nix, C.E.T.
? There’s no hard answer to this, but I can say this: there are three fundamental shapes for push button operators, flush, extended, and mushroom. The intent is that neither flush nor extended head operators be used for e-stop functions. More info in IEC 60947 on that. 2) Yellow background

Re: [PSES] E-Stop Questions

2019-04-24 Thread John Woodgate
O-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-04-24 17:43, Brian Kunde wrote: I am constantly being asked three questions about E-Stops which I cannot find the answers to. 1. "Mushroom Shape" is specifically called out in some standards but the new

[PSES] E-Stop Questions

2019-04-24 Thread Brian Kunde
I am constantly being asked three questions about E-Stops which I cannot find the answers to. 1. "Mushroom Shape" is specifically called out in some standards but the newer style e-stop switches are becoming less and less Mushroom Shaped. If this a concern? 2. "Yellow Backgro

Re: [PSES] phishing e-mail from an old account of yours?

2019-04-02 Thread Bill Owsley
nt sender. On Friday, March 29, 2019, 5:30:02 PM EDT, Peter Tarver wrote: All - I just received an unsolicited e-mail from the address of jrallen-at-productsafetyinc.com. Beware the probable phishing and malware link, if you receive the same. Regards, Peter

Re: [PSES] phishing e-mail from an old account of yours?

2019-04-01 Thread Doug Nix
several people that I > know, but please don’t confuse me with John R Allen of Product Safety Inc. > > FWIW, I don’t think the data breach in question was specific to UK email > addresses because there was a huge one a few months ago of a web address > data base on a particular web

Re: [PSES] phishing e-mail from an old account of yours?

2019-03-29 Thread John Allen
question was specific to UK email addresses because there was a huge one a few months ago of a web address data base on a particular website. John E Allen W. London, UK From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] Sent: 29 March 2019 21:33 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES

Re: [PSES] phishing e-mail from an old account of yours?

2019-03-29 Thread John Woodgate
Ther are press reports in England of a major email leak - up  to a billion addresses, it is alleged. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-03-29 17:56, Peter Tarver wrote: All - I just received an unsolicited e

[PSES] phishing e-mail from an old account of yours?

2019-03-29 Thread Peter Tarver
All - I just received an unsolicited e-mail from the address of jrallen-at-productsafetyinc.com. Beware the probable phishing and malware link, if you receive the same. Regards, Peter L. Tarver - This message is from the IEEE

Re: [PSES] E-band Radio certification per ETSI and FCC standard

2018-01-06 Thread Charlie Blackham
05 January 2018 22:57 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] E-band Radio certification per ETSI and FCC standard Hello experts, I am looking for a lab anywhere in EU/ North America/ ASIA which can test and certify E-band radio ( 71Ghz- 76Ghz and 81Ghz - 86 Ghz) per ETSI and FCC standards Any hel

[PSES] E-band Radio certification per ETSI and FCC standard

2018-01-05 Thread Sudhakar's
Hello experts, I am looking for a lab anywhere in EU/ North America/ ASIA which can test and certify E-band radio ( 71Ghz- 76Ghz and 81Ghz - 86 Ghz) per ETSI and FCC standards Any help will be much appreciated. Best, Regards, Sudhakar wasnik, Sent from my iPhone

Re: [PSES] KC Mark E labeling

2017-09-08 Thread Schmidt, Mark
Thank you, Mark From: Ben Kim [mailto:benki...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:03 AM To: Schmidt, Mark; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] KC Mark E labeling Hi Mark, RRA notice 2015-26 and KATS announcement (date 4/26/2016) include this information. Click on the

Re: [PSES] KC Mark E labeling

2017-09-07 Thread Ben Kim
  Regards, Mark   From: Ben Kim [mailto:benki...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 1:42 PM To: Schmidt, Mark; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] KC Mark E labeling   Mark,   e-labelling is acceptable in S.Korea. Both RRA and KATS allows manufacture to use

Re: [PSES] KC Mark E labeling

2017-09-07 Thread Schmidt, Mark
Thank you Ben, Is there a link to this that is accessible? Is it on the RRA or KATS site? Regards, Mark From: Ben Kim [mailto:benki...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 1:42 PM To: Schmidt, Mark; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] KC Mark E labeling Mark, e-labelling

Re: [PSES] KC Mark E labeling

2017-09-07 Thread Ben Kim
Mark, e-labelling is acceptable in S.Korea. Both RRA and KATS allows manufacture to use e-label (in lieu of physical label) for the product that has its own display (such as smartphone).  Thanks, Ben  On Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:23 AM, "Schmidt, Mark" wrote: He

[PSES] KC Mark E labeling

2017-09-07 Thread Schmidt, Mark
Hello Group, Can anyone direct me to information concerning e labeling of a Bluetooth module and Device. We are currently marking the FCC, IC and KC ID physically on the product label but we ran out of room due to an OEM request on one of our products. I understand that FCC and IC accept e

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Pete Perkins
chase. As you have noted, lots of variability in results in the field. :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 p.perk...@ieee.org -Original Message- From:

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Douglas Nix
h for Cray Computer Backplane. It becomes very apparent why > technicians would pull out their hair. > > -Doug > > > Douglas E Powell > Laporte, Colorado USA > doug...@gmail.com <mailto:doug...@gmail.com> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 > <http://www.l

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Brian O'Connell
n Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 12:59 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines Why do you continue to have a system like that? I know you can't alter it unilaterally, but perhaps the IEEE should consid

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread John Woodgate
-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines Dave hit the nail on the head. In our type of products and market, we manufacturer many different products (50 or more families of products), but in very low quantity. Fifty of one model per year is a lot to us where some model

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Kunde, Brian
] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 3:09 PM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines The preceding may not have completely addressed the question. You are probably looking to identify what standards to apply while designing the product before

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 3:02 PM To: 'Kunde, Brian'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines Brian, I assume you're asking about US requirements and the inspectors you are asking about are local AHJs or OSHA. So OSHA and perhaps the AHJs ha

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 1:55 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines I never studied the VSA, but ships built for the Federation had panels in hallways that could be removed without a tool

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Kunde, Brian
om] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 12:01 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines Agree vehemently, but also codified per NECA 1-2015, and the various workmanship standards of the Vulcan Science Academy. UL508A does not do much for 'workmanship&#

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
skill and pride of the assembler. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Doug PowellTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: April 4, 2017 at 11:26 AMSubject: Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory MachinesJust my opinion but the use of heavy locked

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Brian O'Connell
o be built pretty. Brian From: IBM Ken [mailto:ibm...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 6:15 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines I think those types of products are engineered once, and then built and serviced for decades.  Overly neat de

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Doug Powell
en laid out in quasi-orthogonal arrangements and when squeezing out every bit of speed was imperative, direct point to point wiring was just a tad bit faster. Just for fun, try a google image search for Cray Computer Backplane. It becomes very apparent why technicians would pull out their hair. -Dou

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
similar. That should explain some of it. -Dave From: IBM Ken [mailto:ibm...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:15 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines I think those types of products are engineered once, and then built and serviced for

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
similar. That should explain some of it. -Dave From: IBM Ken [mailto:ibm...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:15 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines I think those types of products are engineered once, and then built and serviced for

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Douglas Nix
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Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread IBM Ken
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[PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Kunde, Brian
the error. Thank you. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at

Re: [PSES] Questions on ESD testing for ECSS-E-ST-20-07C-Rev17

2016-12-20 Thread N. Shani
> Email: li...@conorthtech.com > Website: www.conorthtech.com > -- > > > *From:* Kunde, Brian > *Date:* 2016-12-20 23:54 > *To:* EMC-PSTC > *Subject:* Re: [PSES] Questions on ESD testing for ECSS-E-ST-20-07C-Rev17 > > Why Re-invent the wheel? Why not

Re: [PSES] Questions on ESD testing for ECSS-E-ST-20-07C-Rev17

2016-12-20 Thread Li Di
From: Kunde, Brian Date: 2016-12-20 23:54 To: EMC-PSTC Subject: Re: [PSES] Questions on ESD testing for ECSS-E-ST-20-07C-Rev17 Why Re-invent the wheel? Why not just buy an ESD Gun/Generator and be done with it? The Other Brian From: Li Di [mailto:li...@conorthtech.com] Sent: Tuesday, Decemb

Re: [PSES] Questions on ESD testing for ECSS-E-ST-20-07C-Rev17

2016-12-20 Thread Kunde, Brian
Why Re-invent the wheel? Why not just buy an ESD Gun/Generator and be done with it? The Other Brian From: Li Di [mailto:li...@conorthtech.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 9:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Questions on ESD testing for ECSS-E-ST-20-07C-Rev17 Hi Dear

[PSES] Questions on ESD testing for ECSS-E-ST-20-07C-Rev17

2016-12-20 Thread Li Di
Hi Dear. All, I have several questions on ESD testing for ECSS-E-ST-20-07C-Rev17. In the setion 5.4.12.3 of this standard, it describes the ESD testing setup. It is my first time to use this standard so that I can't under some requirements completely. In this section, it shows the defin

Re: [PSES] Suitable Transformer for AF E Field Susceptibility Test

2015-08-25 Thread Gray, David
: Jones, Richard [mailto:richard.jon...@honeywell.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 8:47 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Suitable Transformer for AF E Field Susceptibility Test Hi Question for the DO-160 people out there, looking for an alternative High Voltage Transformer to run

[PSES] Suitable Transformer for AF E Field Susceptibility Test

2015-08-25 Thread Jones, Richard
- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the

Re: [PSES] IEC e-tech magazine app

2014-08-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message <6b8d3d8f-5679-47c6-b992-42033475a...@mac.com>, dated Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Douglas Nix writes: If you are interested in following the work at the IEC, you might be interested to know that they are making the IEC e-tech magazine available via an iOS or Android app. This was re

[PSES] IEC e-tech magazine app

2014-08-11 Thread Douglas Nix
Colleagues, If you are interested in following the work at the IEC, you might be interested to know that they are making the IEC e-tech magazine available via an iOS or Android app. This was recently announced through an IEC Administrative Circular, and is available to anyone who is interested

Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-04 Thread John Woodgate
e is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communiti

Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-04 Thread Michael Derby
.@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 04 August 2014 11:14 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Labelling? In message <052201cfafc6$8f2907d0$ad7b1770$@acbcert.com>, dated Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Michael Derby writes: >There is a suggestion that devices with an integral screen which us

Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-04 Thread Michael Derby
HI Paul, Good point…. Disclaimer, I only had my R&TTE hat on. J Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Paul Lovell (plovell) [mailto:plov...@cisco.com] Sent: 04 August 2014 11:20 To: Michael Derby; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSE

Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-04 Thread John Woodgate
e IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at

Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-04 Thread Paul Lovell (plovell)
Hi Michael, FYI, e-labelling is already permitted in the medical devices area and is covered by Regulation 207/2012. Permission is limited and anything ending up with a patient has to be provided with paper, but this might give an idea of how it might develop for ITE, especially with internet

Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-04 Thread Michael Derby
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Labelling? Thanks Ralph Sorry for the abbreviation. Better : electronic labeling. Mike Violette Washington Labs & American Certification Body +1 240 401 1388 On Aug 1, 2014, at 2:00 PM, "McDiarmid, Ralph" wrote: Do you mean the e-mark

Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-01 Thread Sundstrom, Mike
t: Re: [PSES] E-Labelling? Thanks Ralph Sorry for the abbreviation. Better : electronic labeling. Mike Violette Washington Labs & American Certification Body +1 240 401 1388 On Aug 1, 2014, at 2:00 PM, "McDiarmid, Ralph" mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com>> wrote:

Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-01 Thread Mike Violette
Thanks Ralph Sorry for the abbreviation. Better : electronic labeling. Mike Violette Washington Labs & American Certification Body +1 240 401 1388 > On Aug 1, 2014, at 2:00 PM, "McDiarmid, Ralph" > wrote: > > Do you mea

Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-01 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
Do you mean the e-mark or the E-mark? ___ Ralph McDiarmid | Schneider Electric | Solar Business | CANADA | Regulatory Compliance Engineering Phone: +1-604-422-2622 | Address: 3700 Gilmore Way, Burnaby

[PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-01 Thread Mike Violette
Hi Experts, I am looking for some guidance on E-labeling in the EU in particular and the "world" in general. I understand that the FCC has made some small movements in acceptance of e-labeling and Japan has some situation where e-labeling is ok, but solicit information on oth

Re: [PSES] E-stop graphic symbols

2014-02-05 Thread John Woodgate
In message <1be635868bcd4d2c82783b79aa3c4...@s-ais-exch01-13.esterline.net>, dated Wed, 5 Feb 2014, Gary McInturff writes: I'm verifying some customer requirements, in the case in particular the symbol for an e-stop. The customer spec says it's ID is IEC 5638. I thou

Re: [PSES] E-stop graphic symbols

2014-02-05 Thread Bailey, Jeff
[mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] Sent: 05 February 2014 12:26 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] E-stop graphic symbols I'm verifying some customer requirements, in the case in particular the symbol for an e-stop. The customer spec says it's ID is IEC 5638. I thought that wa

[PSES] E-stop graphic symbols

2014-02-05 Thread Gary McInturff
I'm verifying some customer requirements, in the case in particular the symbol for an e-stop. The customer spec says it's ID is IEC 5638. I thought that was the standard but now think that is just the ID within a standard possibly IEC 60417-5638. Can someone confirm that. I don

Re: [PSES] Table III Susceptibility Scanning; MIL STD 461 E vs F

2013-11-10 Thread Ken Javor
control, and control did have to be exerted to avoid sweeping at a rate faster than the test sample could evidence susceptibility. Thus we have Table III. In 1993, they used a one second dwell time, and very small step sizes. In the deliberations running up to the -E revision, there was quite a

Re: [PSES] Table III Susceptibility Scanning; MIL STD 461 E vs F

2013-11-10 Thread CR
Chad Airy asks: Will someone please give a little of the rationale for the changes in rev E vs F of Table III, Susceptibility Scanning. I suspect we need look no further than Appendix A 40.3.10.4.1 (4.3.10.4.1) Frequency

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