RE: NEC Questions

2002-04-30 Thread Robert Johnson
1) Correct, this cannot be used in a multiwire branch circuit since it may eventually be removed without being bypassed. The concern is that an open neutral in a multiwire (e.g. 120/240 3w or 120/208 4w) circuit leaves loads connected in series phase to phase. The voltage across a product intended

Re: IEC 60601-2-24 / Magnetic Field

2002-04-30 Thread Nick Rouse
I'm no medical Guru either but I know the sort of field levels involved. They range from about .5 to 3 teslas. This is not much higher than the fields in the gaps of electrical motors and generators (up to 1.8T in normal silicon iron and up to 2.1 T in cobalt iron used in aerospace machines)

RE: CE MARKING A SYSTEM

2002-04-30 Thread Alexandru Guidea
We are facing the same challenge. The way we address it is essentially the TCF route, including a Competent Body involvement. Our installation contains some equipment qualified for residential environment only, which wouldn't meet the industrial immunity test levels by itself. We add filters in

Re: DWELL TIME FOR AVERAGE DETECTORS

2002-04-30 Thread Ken Javor
I would amplify on my original MOTO response and say that it is common practice to scan using peak detection, and use average detection only at frequencies where an outage condition occurs; that will drastically reduce test time. -- From: Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl To: Ken Javor

RE: DWELL TIME FOR AVERAGE DETECTORS

2002-04-30 Thread Gert Gremmen
At ce-test, we call this kind of answer EOE - Evidence by Experience, in addition to MOTO, the dwell time should extend any slow variations that EUT emission contains A fine and obvious example is the Microwave oven: emission varies substantially with the rotation degree of the food rotating

Re: Power Factor regulations.

2002-04-30 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Robert Wilson robert_wil...@tirsys.com wrote (in 3FF57405336C9B4C976A1819F860A2560F698D@xng_tirsys.TIRSYS.COM) about 'Power Factor regulations.', on Tue, 30 Apr 2002: We will be starting the design of a relatively simple, off-line switchmode power supply that will be

Re: General Product Safety Directive

2002-04-30 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that richwo...@tycoint.com wrote (in 846BF526A205F8 4BA2B6045BBF7E9A6A01F140FA@flbocexu05) about 'General Product Safety Directive', on Tue, 30 Apr 2002: Now, back to the original question. I found the following definition of professional apparatus in EN 55103-2 (immunity for

Power Factor regulations.

2002-04-30 Thread Robert Wilson
I have a general question regarding power factor limits relating to the design of off-line switchmode power supplies. We will be starting the design of a relatively simple, off-line switchmode power supply that will be used to power an LED Luminaire (for lighting up the outside of buildings). A

NEC Questions

2002-04-30 Thread Richard Meyette
I have a couple of questions regrading the National Electrical Code: 1) Consider a power measuring device that is intended to be installed into a residential 120V branch circuit, protected by a single 15 A or 20 A circuit breaker. The device would be installed into a conduit outlet box on

RE: General Product Safety Directive

2002-04-30 Thread richwoods
Well, this series sure took a left turn and accelerated hurriedly out of site of the original intent which was to determine what the term consumer means as used in the GPSD. The imaginary product example I put forth was intended solely to support the question, and I in no way advocated that such

RE: CE MARKING A SYSTEM

2002-04-30 Thread Gary McInturff
You have me all confused here. You claim the equipment should be able to state heavy industrial immunity but at the same time acknowledge that some of the components don't meet the surge requirements. Kind of like the government saying fiscal responsibility - an oxymoron. If

RE: IEC 60601-2-24 / Magnetic Field

2002-04-30 Thread Chris Maxwell
Hi Amund, I read your email (below). I'm no medical device expert; but I'm wondering if the magnetic strength limit was set so high due to MRI (Magnetic Resnonance Imaging) devices. My understanding is that MRI devices produce HUGE magnetic field levels. According to a recent newspaper story

Re: Anti-static Insulating Tape ???

2002-04-30 Thread Patrick Lawler
How do the safety standards (for example, IEC 60950 and their clones) define 'insulating tape'? Are the insulating properties determined as applied in the end product by hipot and leakage current? On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:16:16 -0700 (PDT), Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote: Thanks for sharing your

RE: General Product Safety Directive - sorry missed something

2002-04-30 Thread Gregg Kervill
Robert - I know that it may SEEM heavy but there is not NEED to go overboard - do you remember the incident where a (Lithium) battery was 'charged' as a result of a fault condition? The FAA banned all Lithium batteries in aircraft for many years after the incident. Have you not mentioned any

Re: DWELL TIME FOR AVERAGE DETECTORS

2002-04-30 Thread Ken Javor
At NASA we call this kind of answer MOTO - Master of the Obvious, but I can't think of any reason the dwell time would be other than the longer of the detector time constant or a small integer multiple of the broadband spike repetition period. -- From: Gordon,Ian

RE: General Product Safety Directive - sorry missed something

2002-04-30 Thread Gregg Kervill
John is absolutely correct - an experienced engineer can run through '950 with a product in a couple of hours AND record WHY the various clauses and entire sections are not applicable to a simple product. I certainly would not intend to spend more time than that on something simple - HOWEVER -

Re: CE MARKING A SYSTEM

2002-04-30 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Gordon,Ian ian.gor...@edwards.boc.com wrote (in E1BA0362B28ED211A1E80008C71EA30601818F4F@EXC_EAS01) about 'CE MARKING A SYSTEM', on Tue, 30 Apr 2002: Can anyone advise the course of action in applying a CE mark as regards EMC to a system some of whose component parts are

RE: CE MARKING A SYSTEM

2002-04-30 Thread richwoods
Gordon, cosider constructing a Technical Construction File (TCF) and submitting it to a Competent Body. Your product may comply with the essential requirements when operating in its intended environment without the need to apply the full industrial strength tests. At least, you could make that

DWELL TIME FOR AVERAGE DETECTORS

2002-04-30 Thread Gordon,Ian
Can anybody advise as to what dwell time should be used for an average detector when measuring a broadband noise source? This time obviously increases the total test time unnecessarily if set too high and reduces the measurement accuracy if set too low. Thanks Ian Gordon

CE MARKING A SYSTEM

2002-04-30 Thread Gordon,Ian
Can anyone advise the course of action in applying a CE mark as regards EMC to a system some of whose component parts are not built by us and whose D of C's claim light industrial immunity. However, the system has been running in very harsh environments e.g. plasma etch applications at customer

Australia EMC standard for battery toy

2002-04-30 Thread Tsang Steven
Hi all, I believe you have to apply C-tick mark to fulfill australia EMC requirement. Do any one could tell me which AS standard and procedure applicable to Battery toy that has motor and PCB circuit? Thank you Steven QA Engineer Tiger Electronics Far East Ltd.

Re: A very nice game (an example)

2002-04-30 Thread Dr. Jeffrey Race
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:44:34 -0700, Doug McKean wrote: For those interested in how to track down something like this, take a look at the header information. You'l see a bunch of Received: xx lines. Lots of tricks involved here, including possibility of forged headers. Those interested

Re: General Product Safety Directive - sorry missed something

2002-04-29 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Robert Wilson robert_wil...@tirsys.com wrote (in 3FF57405336C9B4C976A1819F860A2560F698B@xng_tirsys.TIRSYS.COM) about 'General Product Safety Directive - sorry missed something', on Mon, 29 Apr 2002: With regards to the need to subject something running from a 9V battery

Re: Anti-static Insulating Tape ???

2002-04-29 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Doug: Thanks for sharing your findings on insulating tape and anti-static tape. All insulators have the property of insulation resistance. Modern insulations have insulation resistances in the gigaohm and teraohm ranges. I would guess that anti-static insulators have a relatively low

RE: General Product Safety Directive - sorry missed something

2002-04-29 Thread Robert Wilson
With regards to the need to subject something running from a 9V battery to a battery (pun not intended) of safety approvals, to me this shows how some aspects of regulatory control are just a solution searching desperately for a problem. There are times when it seems to me that the entire

Re: EMC and Class 2 equipment

2002-04-29 Thread Rich Nute
Hi John: Now we have sub-classes Y1 to Y4. Y capacitors can be used in locations where neither side is grounded, but in the OP's context, grounding is involved. What are the definitions of the various Y capacitors in the most edition of IEC 384? OP? A Y-cap can be used

Anti-static Insulating Tape ???

2002-04-29 Thread POWELL, DOUG
Greetings all, Last week I had an interesting experience I thought was worth sharing with the discussion group. It's all about anti-static insulating tape, which sounds oxymoronic to me. Currently, in my company, we use several styles of tape for safety insulation, both in design of

RE: IEC 60601-2-24 / Magnetic Field

2002-04-29 Thread Ned Devine
Hi, I can help much, but, for this paragraph, the rationale at the back of the standard states that Annex AAA of the Collateral Standard IEC 60601-1-2 states that the limits and methodology are under consideration by technical committee 77. This Particular Standard, however, refers for the time

RE: General Product Safety Directive - sorry missed something

2002-04-29 Thread Gregg Kervill
-Let's take an example of a non-rechargable 9V battery operated -ITE product(sic) Consider the liability and your defense - it you review to the ITE standard then you have performed due diligence - if you do not review to the ITE standard then you have not! If you assume that the product

RE: Inquiry on standard specifying potential ESD hazard reduced t o a level BELOW 200V

2002-04-29 Thread David_Sterner
Paul, ANSI/EIA-625-1994 Requirements for Handling Electrostatic-Discharge-Sensitive (ESDS) Devices specifies that antistatic packaging shall not triboelectric charge to greater than +/-200V; and workstation equipment 'shall not generate +/-200V within twelve (12) inches of unprotected ESDS

IEC 60601-2-24 / Magnetic Field

2002-04-28 Thread amund
Hi all, A colleague was checking the IEC 60601-2-24:98 and found the Magnetic Field Req't (paragraph 36.202.6) far too high: 400 Ampere-per-meter! I'd like to check this requirement for its correctness or history with backgrounds for such a demand. I know that 3A/m, 10A/m and 30A/m are often

FS: Coherent FSM-86B (3 units)

2002-04-28 Thread Dr. Jeffrey Race
In cleaning out the office I came upon these units, three pieces of Coherent Communications Corp FSM-86B LSI Subset, a device which allows piggy-backing a data channel over a phone line, stealing a bit of bandwidth at about 2800 Hz. You can key in using +/- 3V to +/- 25V (so can run a telex over

Re: Considering a rooftop OATS

2002-04-27 Thread Richard Jones
Hi Doug We looked at doing a 10m OATS but found that at 10m you didn't have a clear 10db margin from the relevant limit line in the standards, so we're aiming for a 3m site now with a raised platform so that cable trunking, turntable wont be too much trouble (I hope!) Richard EMC Resource Network

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2002-04-27 Thread croninjg
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Re: Considering a rooftop OATS

2002-04-27 Thread Dave Heald
Well, I can comment on the line of site interference issues: The cell tower, while nearby, only transmits in certain ranges. Unless the signals from the tower overload your measurement devices, this should be managable. To check for overload, play with different attenuators and look for an

Re: EMC and Class 2 equipment

2002-04-27 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote (in 200204262205.paa10...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com) about 'EMC and Class 2 equipment', on Fri, 26 Apr 2002: Hi John: Ground connections is usually nice to have when dealing with EMC. But what about EMC and a class 2 (double insulation

China Standards

2002-04-27 Thread Michelle Cho / INT Compliance
Greetings All, I have one question about MII CCC standard. For the Switching Hub, which standard will be applied? Thanks in advance. Regards, Michelle Cho

Re: EMC and Class 2 equipment

2002-04-26 Thread Rich Nute
Hi John: Ground connections is usually nice to have when dealing with EMC. But what about EMC and a class 2 (double insulation) power supply (shall comply with MIL-STD-461E) . I'm thinking on, what to do with the regularly Y-caps, does it really have any meaning with these

RE: EN55022:1998

2002-04-26 Thread Wagner, John P (John)
Not yet. CISPR/I is working the issue and has 3 CD's in circulation at the moment. Nothing yet, however, on non-invasive measurements using current probes and capacitive voltage clamps -- measurment method C.1.3 and C.1.4. Its on the agenda for WG3 and hopefully a CD will be forthcoming by

Re: Considering a rooftop OATS

2002-04-26 Thread RON_CHERNUS
TUV in San Diego had a roof top OATS. I would talk to them on the subject. Regards, Ron Chernus, Compliance Engineer DENSO Wireless POWELL, DOUG doug.pow...@aei.com on 04/26/2002 09:21:16 AM Please respond to POWELL, DOUG doug.pow...@aei.com To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) emc-p...@ieee.org cc:

RE: EN55022:1998

2002-04-26 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Richard, We (I'm on CISPR SC I WG3) are still working on fixes to CISPR 22:1997 in this area. I would not expect to have the necessary amendment published by August of next year. Stranger things have happened, but I would be highly surprised. What happens with EN 55022:1998 in the meantime is

polonium sources

2002-04-26 Thread Brian Epstein
The issue of sending polonium static elimination devices to our customers has come up. It is my understanding that the devices in question, which are 10CFR31.3 devices (500 microcuries), can be sent, and we need to notify the federal Director of Nuclear Material Safety and Safeguards. In

RE: Considering a rooftop OATS

2002-04-26 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Doug, Rooftop sites have a number of problems. I'm sure the folks who have actually built them can elaborate more, but one that jumps to mind is the fact that you will have a worse ambient than at ground level. The VHF and UHF signals that comprise the ambient tend to be line of sight, and

Considering a rooftop OATS

2002-04-26 Thread POWELL, DOUG
Greetings all, I am considering a proposal to build a pre-compliance OATS on the rooftop of our facility. I am interested in hearing any experiences along this line especially any unexpected difficulties that came up. I am considering a 10 meter site on a raised framework or platform with

RE: EMC test report

2002-04-26 Thread Brewster, Alan
Greetings Cecil and fellow Forumites, The best summation of test report content I have seen for a long time may be found at the following link: http://www.conformity.com/0204123s.pdf http://www.conformity.com/0204123s.pdf I would invite all to read it, irrespective of discipline. Regards,

A very nice game

2002-04-26 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Robert Wilson robert_wil...@tirsys.com wrote (in 3FF57405336C9B4C976A1819F860A2560F697E@xng_tirsys.TIRSYS.COM) about 'A very nice game', on Wed, 24 Apr 2002: I have used it several times to eliminate viruses my son managed to get, Is it safer than MRI, then? (;-) --

Re: EMC and Class 2 equipment

2002-04-26 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that am...@westin-emission.no wrote (in LFENJLPMMJB mhpeibnilgedmceaa.am...@westin-emission.no) about 'EMC and Class 2 equipment', on Tue, 23 Apr 2002: Ground connections is usually nice to have when dealing with EMC. But what about EMC and a class 2 (double insulation) power

Re: High Temp Caps and Inductors

2002-04-26 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Jacob Schanker schan...@frontiernet.net wrote (in 005b01c1e8a8$183598c0$3579d...@frontiernet.net) about 'High Temp Caps and Inductors', on Sat, 20 Apr 2002: I used fiberglass, but although I haven't checked, I don't think that will work at 180C. Possibly Teflon

Re: Varistor to Ground

2002-04-26 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Chris Maxwell chris.maxw...@nettest.com wrote (in 83d652574e7af740873674f9fc12dbaaf7e...@utexh1w2.gnnettest.com) about 'Varistor to Ground', on Mon, 22 Apr 2002: I read your quote below regarding the safety implications of placing MOVs between AC power and ground:

Northeast Product Safety Society Dinner Meeting on Wednesday, May 22

2002-04-26 Thread Matt Campanella
All, Attached is an invitation to the Northeast Product Safety Society annual dinner to be held on Wednesday, May 22, Best Western Royal Plaza Hotel Trade Center in Marlborough, MA. If you will be in the area on May 22nd, please consider joining us for dinner and the opportunity to mingle with

RE: Immunity Test System

2002-04-26 Thread Alex McNeil
Hi Donald, I have the TRA1000 (the previous version, but very little difference to the TRA 2000) and find it an excellent value for money. I have just had it re-calibrated for the 2nd time, no problems! I use it for compliance immunity testing. Notes: No faults to date Very flexible

RE: DSSS WLAN for Australia

2002-04-26 Thread Kevin Richardson
Desmond, Not as simple as your questions to explain I am afraid. Below is a very brief outline and by no means should be looked upon as detailing all the issues. Hope it helps. A 2.4GHz spread spectrum device must comply with: a) ACA Radiocommunications Class Licence (Spread Spectrum

Re: CNS Standards

2002-04-26 Thread Chun Kim
Hello All, Just one clarification regarding update of South Korea's APEC TEL MRA Annex I - this recent update does now allow for Canadian labs to be accredited with full scope of the Korean requirements. This bilateral agreement has been in place between Canada and Korea for several years, by

Re: SV: EMC test report

2002-04-25 Thread Dan Irish - Sun BOS Hardware
All, Just last night, I was re-reading the procedures for Verification (e.g. for Class A ITE) and Declaration of Conformity (e.g. for Class B ITE.) For products subject to Certification, refer to 47CFR2.938, Retention of Records. For products subject to Verification, refer to 47CFRF2.955,

Re: Transformer assessments

2002-04-25 Thread John Allen
IEC 61558 series standards are now/will be EN's in the same series. John Allen - Original Message - From: POWELL, DOUG doug.pow...@aei.com To: iun...@servomex.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: RE: Transformer assessments Ian, We use

Immunity Test System

2002-04-25 Thread Donald McElheran
Group: We are currently considering the purchase of a EMC-Partner TRA2000 Immunity test system. Are there any members of the group that are familiar with, or have used this test system and would be willing to share there comments good or bad. This system appears to provide full compliance

SV: Transformer assessments

2002-04-25 Thread amund
EN 61558-1:1997, Safety of power transformers, power supply units and similar -- Part 1: General requirements and tests Scope: Deals with all aspects of safety (such as electrical, thermal and mechanical) of: a) Stationary or portable, single-phase or polyphase, air-cooled (natural or forced)

SV: EMC test report

2002-04-25 Thread amund
I don't know what FCC require, but this is a general proposal for a test report: 1. SCOPE OF WORK 2. TEST LABORATORY 3. TEST PERIOD 4. ATTENDING REPRESENTATIVES 5. EQUIPMENT UNDER TEST 5.1 Equipment submitted for tests (incl. EUT description, manufacturer, serial number, SW and HW versions, etc)

RE: Inquiry on standard specifying potential ESD hazard reduced to a level BELOW 200V

2002-04-25 Thread paul . j . smith
Folks, Is there a standard specifying that the potential ESD hazard Must Be reduced to a level BELOW 200V ( or other max. voltage ) adjacent to any location where a customer's Semiconductor Device Under Test might be Handled or Contacted. Your comments would be most appreciated. Best Regards,

General Product Safety Directive

2002-04-25 Thread richwoods
Let's take an example of a non-rechargable 9V battery operated ITE product intended soley for business use; and due to its nature, it is highly unlikely to be used by laymen outside that business environment (i.e., not in the home). That product is not subject to the LVD, but it might be subject

RE: Transformer assessments

2002-04-25 Thread POWELL, DOUG
Ian, We use IEC61558-1 and find it is acceptable for electrical equipment apporved to most EN's. This standard replaces the old IEC60742. I haven't checked to see if there is an equivalent European Norm. Regards, -doug --- Douglas E. Powell, Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy

Re: A very nice game (an example)

2002-04-25 Thread Doug McKean
From: T.Sato vef00...@nifty.ne.jp # BTW, a good anti-virus solution is to stop using Microsoft Windows # (at least Microsoft's mailers)! :-) I suppress the preview pane for viewing the contents of my mail and use only two panes, one for mail folders and the other for the list of emails in

Transformer assessments

2002-04-25 Thread IUnwin
Do any members have any tips and guidance on the assessments that need to be carried out on transfromers included in apparatus intended for the following market areas: Europe (EN 61010, EN 50021Type n), North America (FM and CSA), plus world-wide. Many thanks Ian Unwin Servomex Group Limited

Re: EMC and Class 2 equipment

2002-04-25 Thread Lou Aiken
This has been my experience with Class II switching power supplies. The absence of the earth connection will make very little difference in the emissions. But, without the earth connection the leakage current requirement is much lower. (For ITE, 3.5mA is allowed for Class I, but only 0.25mA

Re: DSSS WLAN for Australia

2002-04-25 Thread Fred Borda
Hi Desmond, Conformity assessment in Australia is via declaration of conformity and supporting compliance folder. There is no approval to be applied for. The compliance folder should include a copy of the Part 15.247 report, among other things. The C-tick is required on this kind of WLAN

RE: FCC Contact

2002-04-25 Thread Barbara Judge
Bill didn't take over Art's responsibilities. He is currently working with Art. Neither of them are the source for answers regarding Pt. 15, Pt. 18. or Pt. 68 though. For questions relating to Pt. 15 18 contact Ray La Forge rlafo...@fcc.gov Question relating to Terminal Equipment Attachment

RE: FCC Contact

2002-04-25 Thread Desmond Fraser
Try Raymond Laforge [rlafo...@fcc.gov]. Desmond A. Fraser Rhein Tech Labs, Inc. 360 Herndon PKWY, Suite 1400 Herndon, VA 22070 Tel: 703-689-0368 Fax: 703-689-2056 mailto:desm...@rheintech.com -Original Message- From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com] Sent:

Re: A very nice game (an example)

2002-04-25 Thread T.Sato
at the Message-Id: line further down. I get Message-Id: 20020424215907.d25ca22...@coer.zju.edu.cn This one is little more difficult for some hackers to hide. I suggest not to believe domain name (QFDN part) in Message-ID line. It is very easy to hide - see Message-ID of this message. Received

DSSS WLAN for Australia

2002-04-25 Thread Desmond Fraser
Hello Group: We recently received a certification granted for a 2.4 GHZ portable wireless LAN card. The device transmits between 2.4GHz and 2.472 GHz with maximum EIRP levels of less than 15mW. This device was FCC approved under 15.247, Specific absorption rate measurements were also

Country of Origin/Made in xxx-Revisited

2002-04-25 Thread MartinJP
To all, The recent threads on Country of Origin and Made in xxx brought up many questions on this subject. So, I did some research. I appeared to get some answers and also created some more questions. Hopefully, members of the group can confirm or disagree with the items listed below. 1.

A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread jmw
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RE: A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread Robert Wilson
One more thing I forgot to mention, that may be useful. Pegasus (the email program I use at home) has a very nice Selective Download feature, that allows you to review what is on your server BEFORE downloading it. Thus, you can screen and delete (at the source!!) all suspicious messages or

Re: A very nice game (an example)

2002-04-24 Thread Doug McKean
(EDT) From: jmw j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk Now, take a look at the Message-Id: line further down. I get Message-Id: 20020424215907.d25ca22...@coer.zju.edu.cn This one is little more difficult for some hackers to hide. We can see there's some discrepancies in the domain name. Notably

RE: A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread Robert Wilson
For what it's worth, an absolutely excellent virus purge program is F-Prot, available from Frisk Software International at: http://www.f-prot.com/f-prot/download/ The DOS version is FREE and supported with very frequent (almost weekly) virus signature file updates. It runs just fine in a DOS

RE: FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread Lothar Schmidt
William Hurst took over these responsibilities. To contact these people the FCC website has a contact us section were you can access a phone directory and find the numbers you need. http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/findpeople.pl Best Regards Lothar Schmidt Technical Manager EMC/Radio BQB CETECOM

RE: FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread Barbara Judge
No, Art has not retired. He will retire by the end of 2003 I think. He recently moved his office back to the lab in Columbia. His email address is unchanged. BJ -Original Message- From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:50

RE: FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread Mike Cantwell
You can also search the existing rules interpretation database on the FCC web site https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/index_ie.html Under miscellaneous, click on rule interpretations. Mike -Original Message- From: Reginald Henry [mailto:rhe...@vicon-cctv.com] Sent: Wednesday, April

RE: FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread Gary McInturff
Didn't Art Wall retired a year or so ago. Gary -Original Message- From: am...@westin-emission.no [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:14 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: SV: FCC Contact You can also make contact with Mr. Art Wall on

RE: A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread Robert Wilson
All of which makes one wonder why one would ever use IE as a mail reader! Rather like using a wrench as a hammer; sure, it can be made to work ...but why? Personally, I use Outlook at work (only because I have to). But at home, I use Pegasus which I feel is the best email program going, and it

RE: A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread Mike Hopkins
Agreed -- I've received this virus about 50 times in the last few days, but each time the system (local server) quarantines it.. Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek -Original Message- From: Robert Wilson [mailto:robert_wil...@tirsys.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:47 AM To:

RE: A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread Douglas_Beckwith
I deleted the file email immediately, but our IS group is asking what the file name was. Can anyone remember what it was, so I can pass it on to them. Thanks Doug Beckwith Naftali Shani nsh...@catena.com@majordomo.ieee.org on 04/24/2002 12:06:22 PM Please respond to Naftali Shani

RE: A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread ggarside
Some thoughts. Assuming that this was a virus, the warning could be helpful to some. While I agree with Robert comments in part, in fact a lot of the viruses that exploit weaknesses in Microsoft Outlook use the sender's address book. So you WILL get viruses from people you know or correspond

Re: A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread Douglas C. Smith
Robert, You do not have to open the attachment on this one at all if you have IE! Just preview or open the message. During virus outbreaks, like this one, I use a great webmail reader mail2web.com to preview my mail before downloading it. Doug Robert Wilson wrote: In spite of the attachment

Re: A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread Douglas C. Smith
Hi Chris and the Gang, It was probably a particularly nasty one called W32/Klez.h@MM which I have received through other channels several times lately. It is bad enough that if you actually get infected (McAfee will prevent this if your DAT files are reasonably new) you have to go into DOS and

Admin message: RE: A very nice game virus.

2002-04-24 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Chris, Bill, and all other subscribers: A message with the subject: A very nice game was sent to the IEEE (emc-pstc) for posting by our listserver. The original message contained a virus known as KLEZ.G. The IEEE computer detected the virus. This virus was stripped from the

RE: FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread Woodcox, Edmund A
Here is the number for OET EMC division, I've never found them to be much help, but then again, I've never been much help either. Electromagnetic Compatibility Division Electromagnetic Compatibility Division 202-418-2475 Chief Robert M. Bromery Deputy Chief

Re: FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread Leslie Bai
For MRAs, contact Art Wall (located at D.C.) at (202)-418-2442. For OET services, contact Richard Fabina at (301)-362-3021. For EMC (eg. Pt15, etc.), contact Tom Phillips at (301) - 362 - 3044. For Radio Approval (eg.Pt 101, etc.), contact Frank Coperich at 301-362-3023. I have found they are

RE: CNS Standards

2002-04-24 Thread Benoit Nadeau
Bonjour de Montreal, Just a few comment about BSMI, MRAs and testing. The APEC TEL MRA was sign by the DGT in Taiwan, thus allowing foreign testing lab to the EMC on telecom equipment only. The extension, in USA, of this MRA to Information Technology Equipment was negotiated separately by the

RE: CE for Fluorescent Lamps

2002-04-24 Thread Robert Wilson
Just as a matter of curiosity, regarding the trailing boilerplate on your message, what could possibly be accomplished by forwarding an incorrectly delivered email back to the sender? The recipient will still have the original message. Sounds like someone isn't too clear on the concepts of

SV: FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread amund
You can also make contact with Mr. Art Wall on e-mail: aw...@fcc.gov He gave us some advice a year ago regarding FCC interpretation. Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]På vegne av John Juhasz Sendt: 24. april

RE: A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread Naftali Shani
If I'm not wrong, this is the KLEZ virus (Win32.Klez.I@mm). Regards, Naftali Shani, Catena Networks (www.catena.com) 307 Legget Drive, Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2K 3C8 613.599.6430/866.2CATENA (X.8277); C 295.7042; F 599.0445 E-mail: nsh...@catena.com -Original Message- From: Chris

RE: A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread Robert Wilson
In spite of the attachment having been removed by the system, it was pretty darned obvious what this must have been. It always amazes me that people are foolish (stupid?) enough to open attachments to obviously suspicious emails like this one, that are from people they don't know, and subjects

Re: FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread Jim . Hulbert
Try sending an email to oeti...@fcc.gov. I've received responses to questions within 1 day. Jim Hulbert Pitney Bowes rehel...@mmm.com

RE: FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread Reginald Henry
http://www.pseinc.com/faq.htm Try this site ! RH -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:12 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: FCC Contact Can anyone provide me with phone and/or name contacts for FCC rules

RE: FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread Gary McInturff
Bob, You can go to the FCC.gov website and find the phone numbers and the departments they work in. I would suggest Tom Phillips in OET, but I have been known to dial randomly and get the answers I need. Although they sometimes seem surprised and ask me where I got their particular

RE: CE for Fluorescent Lamps

2002-04-24 Thread Gary McInturff
Was just at a hotel with the replacement circular fluorescent lamps directly above (2 feet) the hotel provided radio (less cheesy than most). Turning on the light completely destroyed the signal. AM and FM and all channels. Turn it off and the radio was nice a clear. Wanted to steal

Re: FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread Ken Javor
I may be out of date and I don't have a number at hand, but Art Wall comes to mind. You can find all the appropriate personnel in the back of ITEM. on 4/24/02 8:12 AM, rehel...@mmm.com at rehel...@mmm.com wrote: Can anyone provide me with phone and/or name contacts for FCC rules

RE: A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread Chris Chileshe
Bill, Do we know which virus it was? Regards -Original Message- From: Bill Ellingford [SMTP:bill.ellingf...@motion-media.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:37 PM To: 'jmw'; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:RE: A very nice game Importance: High URGENT Please be

RE: FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread John Juhasz
Contact the FCC's OET (Office of Engineering and Technology). http://www.fcc.gov/oet/contact/ GE Interlogix John A. Juhasz Fiber Options Div. Bohemia, NY -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:12 AM To:

FCC Contact

2002-04-24 Thread reheller
Can anyone provide me with phone and/or name contacts for FCC rules interpretation (Parts 15, 18, and 68)? Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society

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