From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org]
Sent: 11 December 2018 00:47
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] product marking detail for FCC marking
Speak O oracle:
My client is getting pushed by their Euro based EMC lab that
when
o examples of zero’s with a line through them.
https://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid#helpSection
Larry
From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 7:47 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] product marking detail for F
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Subject: [PSES] product marking detail for FCC marking
Speak O oracle:
My client is getting pushed by their Euro based EMC lab
that when marking a product in compliance with FCC regulations that when
the number contains a numeric zero to use a zero with
Speak O oracle:
My client is getting pushed by their Euro based EMC lab that
when marking a product in compliance with FCC regulations that when the
number contains a numeric zero to use a zero with a slash rather than the
zero provided on the North American keyboard. The
vegne av
cecil.gitt...@kodak.com
Sendt: 12. oktober 2001 16:02
Til: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Emne: EMC requirements and Product Marking
Viktighet: Hoy
From: Cecil A. Gittens
What needs to done to get EMC certification for Switzerland and Norway?
Are there any marks required for these countries
cecil.gittens%kodak@interlock.lexmark.com on 10/12/2001 10:02:03 AM
Please respond to cecil.gittens%kodak@interlock.lexmark.com
To: emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee@interlock.lexmark.com
cc:(bcc: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject: EMC requirements and Product Marking
From: Cecil
From: Cecil A. Gittens
What needs to done to get EMC certification for Switzerland and Norway?
Are there any marks required for these countries?
Regards
Cecil
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I am commenting on a question and reply which is further back in this
continuing conversation.
Question: For products with external AC power supplies, would the NRTL
mark needto be on the supply and the product? Or the supply only?
Previous reply: The external ac power supply must be
: RE: Product Marking - new twist
Rich-
Thanks for the detailed reply to Chris's questions.
Is it possible that a piece of equipment with an NRTL listing can be
disconnected by a local electrical inspector/electrician enforcing the NEC
because that paticular NRTL is not approved
Hi Andy:
Is it possible that a piece of equipment with an NRTL listing can be
disconnected by a local electrical inspector/electrician enforcing the NEC
because that paticular NRTL is not approved in their jurisdiction?
Yes.
Please recognize:
NRTL is an OSHA program governing
...@sdd.hp.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:39 PM
To: chris.maxw...@gnnettest.com
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: Product Marking - new twist
Hi Chris:
For instance, one of the messages says that the NEC gives an electrician
the
right to unplug an un-NRTL-marked piece
recently? Normally we would
not consider using UL because of the high cost and long time intervals
anyway.
Don
-Original Message-
From: Greg Nielsen [mailto:greg.niel...@setengineering.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:49 AM
To: 'Don House'
Subject: RE: Product Marking
Don,
I
Of course nothing can be sold in Canada without the Canadian supplied
flag labels with the certification number imprinted.
Don,
The Canadian flag labels can be affixed only to equipment certified by
Industry Canada (different issue, not related to the original question
[NRTL, safety approvals
No arguments here Ron.
Best regards,
Don
-Original Message-
From: Ron Pickard [mailto:rpick...@hypercom.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:31 AM
To: Don House
Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: Product Marking
Hi Don,
The requirement for most customers, especially
To: 'Pham, Tac'; 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject: RE: Product Marking
This is the symbol (see attached) we were advised to use by CSA for both
Canada and USA.
But no 'UL' to be mentioned anywhere.
The testing was through the CB scheme tested here in Australia.
Praveen
-Original Message
Hi Chris:
For instance, one of the messages says that the NEC gives an electrician the
right to unplug an un-NRTL-marked piece of equipment. Another message
states that the NRTL's mark is the proof of product safety.
NRTL is a designation issued by OSHA.
Approved is a
Hi Don,
The requirement for most customers, especially telecommunications providers,
is that the product be LISTED or RECOGNIZED to comply with the safety
standards of concern. The most important being UL1950 and NEBS. To be
listed and participate in continuing compliance (required) you must
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-Original Message-
From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@gnnettest.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 6:03 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Product Marking
To: 'Pham, Tac'; 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject: RE: Product Marking
This is the symbol (see attached) we were advised to use by CSA for both
Canada and USA.
But no 'UL' to be mentioned anywhere.
The testing was through the CB scheme tested here in Australia.
Praveen
-Original Message
; owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: Product Marking
Hi Courtland,
You asked:
I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL and get
Safety testing performed, we typically put the Safety logo (UL for example)
on the product label. Our marketing people have a problem
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Email: jfinlay...@telica.com
-Original Message-
From: Gorodetsky, Vitaly [mailto:vgorodet...@canoga.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:26 PM
To: 'Joe Finlayson'; 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject: RE: Product Marking
Joe -
It is the other way
...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Product Marking
I see no cETL listed at http://www.scc.ca/certific/colist.html
I did see ITS listed.
bolintic%dscltd@interlock.lexmark.com on 01/24/2001 04:52:35 PM
To: George_Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark.LEXMARK@sweeper.lex.lexmark.com,
emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee
As I read this thread, a couple of the postings stick out in my mind.
For instance, one of the messages says that the NEC gives an electrician the
right to unplug an un-NRTL-marked piece of equipment. Another message
states that the NRTL's mark is the proof of product safety.
Courtland's
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-Original Message-
From: Praveen Rao [SMTP:p...@tennyson.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:36 PM
To: 'Pham, Tac'; 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject:RE: Product Marking
This is the symbol (see attached) we
is solely with the
reader
-Original Message-
From: Joe Finlayson [SMTP:jfinlay...@telica.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:45 PM
To: 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject:RE: Product Marking
My understanding
January 2001 9:00 AM
To: 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject: RE: Product Marking
Courtland,
The NRTL (UL, CSA) would not like the idea that one marked the product with
the word UL or CSA because (their argument) it is misleading. In some cases,
TUV, ETL etc. can certify some products using UL/CSA
is insufficient. The logo implies the manufacturing line is
under the NRTL's surveillance.
David
-Original Message-
From: John Juhasz [mailto:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:35 PM
To: 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject: RE: Product Marking
Courtland
]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:45 PM
To: 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject: RE: Product Marking
My understanding of the NRTL marking is that if you don't mark it,
it is not considered Listed. It doesn't matter if it has been tested or
not. I believe the issue is that if the NRTL
Thomas [mailto:ctho...@patton.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:05 PM
To: emcpost
Subject:Product Marking
Hello group,
I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL and get
Safety testing performed, we typically put the Safety logo (UL for example
[mailto:geor...@lexmark.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:49 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Product Marking
Courtland,
You raise a very interesting question, prompted by the usual Dilbert
marketing thinking. Here are some comments, in no particular order,
nor do I draw a conclusion
: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject: RE: Product Marking
Dear George,
Just a small clarification: in regard to item 5, one of the following..,
are mixed-up TESTING AGENCIES(NRTLs) with MARKS. In Canada, are acceptable
the following MARKS:
CSA, cETL (issued by ITS - Intertek Testing Services
From: Dick Grobner [mailto:dick.grob...@medgraph.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:01 PM
. I also know that the City of
L.A. is a stickler for a third party mark on a medical device (and I would
suspect other devices as will), if it isn't there
Hello group,
I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL and get
Safety testing performed, we typically put the Safety logo (UL for example)
on the product label. Our marketing people have a problem with having
different logo's. They would like to standarize on a single
a reputable third party NRTL
when doing business.
Original Message-
From: kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com [mailto:kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:22 AM
To: ctho...@patton.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Product Marking
Hi Courtland,
For an NRTL
it, you
can not claim NRTL Listing.
-Original Message-
From: Courtland Thomas [mailto:ctho...@patton.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:05 PM
To: emcpost
Subject: Product Marking
Hello group,
I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL and get
Safety testing
Hi Courtland,
You asked:
I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL and get
Safety testing performed, we typically put the Safety logo (UL for example)
on the product label. Our marketing people have a problem with having
different logo's. They would like to standarize
of
my employer . . .
John Juhasz
Fiber Options
Bohemia, NY
-Original Message-
From: Courtland Thomas [mailto:ctho...@patton.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:05 PM
To: emcpost
Subject: Product Marking
Hello group,
I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go
-
From: Courtland Thomas [SMTP:ctho...@patton.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:05 PM
To: emcpost
Subject:Product Marking
Hello group,
I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL
and get
Safety testing
Hi Courtland:
I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL and get
Safety testing performed, we typically put the Safety logo (UL for example)
on the product label. Our marketing people have a problem with having
different logo's. They would like to
]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:05 PM
To: emcpost
Subject: Product Marking
Hello group,
I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL and get
Safety testing performed, we typically put the Safety logo (UL for example)
on the product label. Our marketing people have
the
product safe (as opposed to the manufacturer).
My 2 cents and not that of my employer.
Regards,
Kaz Gawrzyjal
kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com
-Original Message-
From: Courtland Thomas [mailto:ctho...@patton.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:05 PM
To: emcpost
Subject: Product Marking
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