Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-31 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/31/2014 05:43 PM, a k wrote: > in same directory > linuxCNC>configs> hm2-servo > > i found only one folder that indicate hal > hm2-servo.hal > and there i could not find anything like MIN_FERROR > i have emc2 ---2.5--- > MIN_FERROR is a parameter in the .ini file, there should be one for eac

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-31 Thread a k
in same directory linuxCNC>configs> hm2-servo i found only one folder that indicate hal hm2-servo.hal and there i could not find anything like MIN_FERROR i have emc2 ---2.5--- On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 2:49 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 31 May 2014 21:30, a k wrote: > > > file each axis has > > >

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-31 Thread andy pugh
On 31 May 2014 21:30, a k wrote: > file each axis has > > MIN_FERROR=0.002 > i replace 0,002 with 0,008 - made some trade off and as a result machine > works very good now. That is actually very strange. That value only controls what positional error triggers an error. As far as I know it has n

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-31 Thread a k
Hi In linuxCNC>configs> hm2-servo>5i20.ini file each axis has MIN_FERROR=0.002 i replace 0,002 with 0,008 - made some trade off and as a result machine works very good now. On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:11 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 30 May 2014 21:58, a k wrote: > > i did increase min error from

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-30 Thread andy pugh
On 30 May 2014 21:58, a k wrote: > i did increase min error from 0.002 to 0.008 and now no noise machine > sounds really good. "min error" means nothing to me at all. Was this an INI file entry? _exactly_ what was it called, and what is it connected to in the HAL file. -- atp If you can't fix

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-30 Thread a k
i did increase min error from 0.002 to 0.008 and now no noise machine sounds really good. how much i lost geometric accuracy by increasing --min error --? i want to compare theoretical lost of accuracy with real measurement. On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:35 AM, a k wrote: > hi > i noticed in in

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-29 Thread a k
hi i noticed in ini file on y axis ---#the y axis servo's encoder has an index channel, so we use it to improve the home accuracy--- and for x and z -- #the x (z) axis servo's encoder does not have an index channel, so we have to to home without index--- /// ques

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-28 Thread a k
Hi in ini file i think that as default setting for this parameters Ferror=1 min error=0.002 and FF1=1 am i right or no? i am not sure about tune up only with P FF1 and FF2. http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/tuning/servo.html it did not work out in my case On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:08 PM, a k wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-28 Thread a k
Yes i did check that and they are in set up for differential mode. / Next will be --4. Make sure that the filter bits of the HostMot2 encoder counters are set true How i can check this one? in which file ? On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:28 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 28 May 2014 17:59, a k wro

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 May 2014 17:59, a k wrote: > which file ? any instruction? http://www.mesanet.com/pdf/motion/7i33man.pdf Page 2 -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Time is money. St

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-28 Thread a k
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:18:01 -0700 > > From: a k > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > > > i did tune 2 motors whi

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-28 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 27 May 2014, a k wrote: > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:18:01 -0700 > From: a k > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > i did tune 2 motors which

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-27 Thread a k
id numbers with no >>> luck. After retuning the numbers were not even close. >>> >>> Terry >>> >>> On May 23, 2014, at 5:12 PM, "Peter C. Wallace" wrote: >>> >>> > On Fri, 23 May 2014, a k wrote: >>>

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-26 Thread a k
ay 2014 14:45:06 -0700 >> >> From: a k >> >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> >> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-us

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-25 Thread a k
a k wrote: > > > >> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:45:06 -0700 > >> From: a k > >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >> > >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < > emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-25 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 25 May 2014, a k wrote: > Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 11:25:59 -0700 > From: a k > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > hi > about tuning >

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-25 Thread a k
gt; > Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 19:38:08 -0700 >>> > From: a k >>> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>> > >>> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >&g

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread a k
0700 >> > From: a k >> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> > >> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 >> > >> &

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread a k
:38:08 -0700 > > From: a k > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > > > scale factor must be 163840 because it is simple ar

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 24 May 2014, a k wrote: > Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 19:38:08 -0700 > From: a k > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > scale factor must be 16384

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread a k
Sat, 24 May 2014, a k wrote: >> >> > Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 18:55:57 -0700 >> > From: a k >> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> > >> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >> emc-users@lists.sour

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread a k
anced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > > > , I am talking about the output scale. As in, > > the scaling between PID output and volts at the drive. > > &

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 24 May 2014, a k wrote: > Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 18:55:57 -0700 > From: a k > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > , I am talking about the ou

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread a k
, I am talking about the output scale. As in, the scaling between PID output and volts at the drive. that is in ini file? On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 6:05 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 25 May 2014 01:46, a k wrote: > > output-scale=1.0 > > and > > max out put =1.0 > > i did not change it in 2.2 and

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 24 May 2014, a k wrote: > Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 16:24:04 -0700 > From: a k > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > Hi > i found that tha

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread andy pugh
On 25 May 2014 01:46, a k wrote: > output-scale=1.0 > and > max out put =1.0 > i did not change it in 2.2 and now in 2.5 > do i need change output scale to === ? I have no idea. I would feel more like trying to help if you answered the question I asked rather than providing answers of your choo

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread a k
output-scale=1.0 and max out put =1.0 i did not change it in 2.2 and now in 2.5 do i need change output scale to === ? On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 5:37 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 25 May 2014 01:33, a k wrote: > > dac-scale previously? > > in calibration window i try input_scale 8192x4x5=163840

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread andy pugh
On 25 May 2014 01:33, a k wrote: > dac-scale previously? > in calibration window i try input_scale 8192x4x5=163840 That's the input scale, I am talking about the output scale. As in, the scaling between PID output and volts at the drive. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://ww

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread andy pugh
On 25 May 2014 01:26, a k wrote: > so with emc2 one can not use motor with encoder 8192 pulse > is this right? No, that is completely incorrect. You can use absolutely any encoder count you wish. One thing I can guarantee is that anything that could be done with 2.2 can still be done with 2.5. B

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread a k
dac-scale previously? in calibration window i try input_scale 8192x4x5=163840 On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 5:23 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 25 May 2014 00:24, a k wrote: > > i want to be sure that my ac servo motor (with 8192 pulse) tune able at > all > > with emc2 -2.5 ? > > There shouldn't be any

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread a k
roller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > > > i did run emc2.2 live cd and put ini file back > > it work for 2 min and start give join following error0. > > what is differ

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread andy pugh
On 25 May 2014 00:24, a k wrote: > i want to be sure that my ac servo motor (with 8192 pulse) tune able at all > with emc2 -2.5 ? There shouldn't be any problems with any high enough encoder resolution, and 8192 is fairly high resolution. My guess is that the problem might be related to the dac

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread a k
gt; >> From: a k > >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >> > >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < > emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > >> > >> i did ru

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-24 Thread tcninja12
, 2014, at 5:12 PM, "Peter C. Wallace" wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2014, a k wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:45:06 -0700 >> From: a k >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)&qu

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-23 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 23 May 2014, a k wrote: > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:45:06 -0700 > From: a k > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > i did run emc2.2 live cd a

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-23 Thread a k
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> > >> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 >> > >> > hi >> > i think that the situation w

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-23 Thread a k
23, 2014 at 5:54 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2014, a k wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 04:16:59 -0700 > > From: a k > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" &

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-23 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 23 May 2014, a k wrote: > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 04:16:59 -0700 > From: a k > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > hi > i think that the

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-23 Thread Gene Heskett
; >> On Thu, 22 May 2014, a k wrote: > >> > Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 11:32:08 -0700 > >> > From: a k > >> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > To: "Enhanced

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-23 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Aram, I am sure the 5i20s are not garbage. You are correct about updating causing problems. Everytime you do it you will have some problems but sometimes it is necessary to do. No one in this group will do anything to cause anyone any problems. 1. Relax. 2. Ask your questions. 3. Read the answers

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 May 2014 12:16, a k wrote: > i think that the situation where i am now - controller that does not work- > is good answer to question why i avoid to update to new releases of emc2. Nobody told you to upgrade to 2.5. I just informed you that what you wanted to do wasn't possible with 2,2. >

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-23 Thread a k
u, 22 May 2014 11:32:08 -0700 >> > From: a k >> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> > >> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] e

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread a k
> > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > > > i think i know > > > > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:29 AM, a k wrote: > > > >> who is PCW? > >> > >

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 22 May 2014, a k wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 11:32:08 -0700 > From: a k > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5 > > i think i know > &

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread jrmitchellj .
The module is not loading into the kernel. Permission issue? Without the module loaded into the kernel, I don't think the system can talk to the FPGA. I don't know this first hand, just reading the listings above. Ray --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com (818)324-7573 The things we ad

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-05-22 21:29 GMT+03:00 a k : > who is PCW? Purple crystal wizard :)) Viesturs -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread a k
i think i know On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:29 AM, a k wrote: > who is PCW? > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM, andy pugh wrote: > >> On 22 May 2014 19:06, a k wrote: >> > [11380.125103] hm2_5i20.0: firmware: requesting hm2/5i20/SVST8_4.BIT >> > [11380.127460] hm2_5i20.0: FPGA did not rese

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread a k
who is PCW? On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 22 May 2014 19:06, a k wrote: > > [11380.125103] hm2_5i20.0: firmware: requesting hm2/5i20/SVST8_4.BIT > > [11380.127460] hm2_5i20.0: FPGA did not reset: /INIT = 1, DONE = 1 > > OK, so you seem to have a config updated for th

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread a k
Something more when power for driver is off, than EMC2 start and it looks ok when i turn power to drivers - to ran machine- than joint following error and it is all i did change 5i20 INI file for tune up motor and it did not help. just saying what i have thank you aram On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2014 19:06, a k wrote: > [11380.125103] hm2_5i20.0: firmware: requesting hm2/5i20/SVST8_4.BIT > [11380.127460] hm2_5i20.0: FPGA did not reset: /INIT = 1, DONE = 1 OK, so you seem to have a config updated for the new driver, which is a good start. I think we might need PCW to explain th

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-05-22 21:06 GMT+03:00 a k : > [11380.125103] hm2_5i20.0: firmware: requesting hm2/5i20/SVST8_4.BIT > > [11380.127460] hm2_5i20.0: FPGA did not reset: /INIT = 1, DONE = 1 > > [11380.127470] hm2/hm2_5i20.0: failed to reset fpga, aborting hm2_register > There is something wrong, when LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread a k
Here is more print about error Print file information: RUN_IN_PLACE=no LINUXCNC_DIR= LINUXCNC_BIN_DIR=/usr/bin LINUXCNC_TCL_DIR=/usr/lib/tcltk/linuxcnc LINUXCNC_SCRIPT_DIR= LINUXCNC_RTLIB_DIR=/usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/linuxcnc LINUXCNC_CONFIG_DIR= LINUXCNC_LANG_DIR=/usr/share/l

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread a k
hi this is error that i got when i start in terminals To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo ". See "man sudo_root" for details. aram@aram-desktop:~$ linuxcnc LINUXCNC - 2.5.0 Machine configuration directory is '/home/aram/linuxcnc/configs/hm2-servo' Machine configuratio

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2014 09:18, a k wrote: > when i try to start emc2 it show error What error does it show? I almost guarantee that the error states that the hal_m5i20 component can not be found. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UPDATING#Withdrawn_drivers If the error is something else then nobo

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-22 Thread a k
hi about Your existing config used the hal_m5i20 driver, which no longer exists. i did reinstall Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx and LinuxCNC (current release) i did check m5i20 than software created new file. when i try to start emc2 it show error ubuntu is working -no problem linuxcnc is not working.

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 May 2014 21:42, a k wrote: > where do i need to look for problem? Your existing config used the hal_m5i20 driver, which no longer exists. You should make a backup copy of your existing config, and create a new config using pncconf. This will use the new hm2_pci driver instead. -- atp If

Re: [Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 16:42:04 a k did opine And Gene did reply: > Hi > i download, burn cd and install > Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx and LinuxCNC (current release) > and it is not working > it shows > print file information > debug information > kernel messages > > where do i need to look for prob

[Emc-users] emc2--2.5

2014-05-21 Thread a k
Hi i download, burn cd and install Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx and LinuxCNC (current release) and it is not working it shows print file information debug information kernel messages where do i need to look for problem? thank you aram ---