Re: [Emc-users] Backlash elimination [Was: OT- Not quite your hobby sized mill]

2012-02-28 Thread Jan de Kruyf
and it seems that the basic structure of the beast is concrete! j On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 28.02.12 12:32, dave wrote: > > Check this mill out. Used to make the molds for the America's Cup > > boats. > > > > http://www.janicki.com/5-axis-milling.html > >

Re: [Emc-users] Backlash elimination [Was: OT- Not quite your hobby sized mill]

2012-02-28 Thread Jan de Kruyf
I'd say the contra-torque statement says that one of the gears is split 'horizontally' (seen when it lays on the table) and the main motor drives the one while an auxiliary applies a constant torque on the other in oposite direction. And so: no backlash. For direction change the motors change roles

[Emc-users] Backlash elimination [Was: OT- Not quite your hobby sized mill]

2012-02-28 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 28.02.12 12:32, dave wrote: > Check this mill out. Used to make the molds for the America's Cup > boats. > > http://www.janicki.com/5-axis-milling.html That offhand mention of "contra-torque" backlash elimination is kinda interesting, but perhaps it's not that different from a loaded ballnut

Re: [Emc-users] Film Emulsion for Encoder Wheels?

2012-02-28 Thread dave
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:06:25 -0600 Jon Elson wrote: > dave wrote: > > If anyone is really desperate I think I still have some KPR (Kodak > > photoresist) around. IIRC ... vacuum pull down the photomask over > > the substrate (board) expose with UV. Develop with toluene. Etch. > > > > Since I'm a

Re: [Emc-users] PROGRAM_PREFIX

2012-02-28 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 27.02.12 20:54, Lars Andersson wrote: > In EMC.ini I have PROGRAM_PREFIX = /home/la/emc2/scripts. > > This seems to affect defaults for both script and gcode files. > > I would like to have different paths for script and gcode files. > > Can I have that? On 28.02.12 16:19, Eric H. Johnson w

Re: [Emc-users] Setting subroutine path

2012-02-28 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:37:01 PM Eric H. Johnson did opine: > Hi all, > > I am trying to put o-word subroutines in a different folder from > nc_files. In the ini file (I tried testing on sim/axis.ini and > sim/tkemc.ini) I have: > > PROGRAM_PREFIX = /home/emcuser/emc2/nc_files > > So u

Re: [Emc-users] Ladder Modbus Slave

2012-02-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 14:21 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip > My guess is that as any ports above 1000 have lighter > restrictions, maybe ports above a higher value are handled differently > too, so 1502 doesn't show where 9502 does. I guess I have more work to > do. Oops, pilot error here. Th

Re: [Emc-users] Film Emulsion for Encoder Wheels?

2012-02-28 Thread Jon Elson
dave wrote: > If anyone is really desperate I think I still have some KPR (Kodak > photoresist) around. IIRC ... vacuum pull down the photomask over the > substrate (board) expose with UV. Develop with toluene. Etch. > > Since I'm a packrat (I'm obviously relate to Neotoma cinerea ) ;-) the > KPR

Re: [Emc-users] OT- Not quite your hobby sized mill

2012-02-28 Thread dave
You never know what is going to come crawling out of the woodwork. :-) You do know about the big shop in Carnation? Dave n Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:24:46 -0800 Gary Fiber wrote: > I have been to Sedro-Woolley, WA several times and did not know there > was a CNC engineering firm there. > The popula

Re: [Emc-users] Mendel, was Re: lathe advice?

2012-02-28 Thread Ian W. Wright
On 28/02/2012 16:15, Kent A. Reed wrote: > My grandkids range in age from 7 to 11. They've done some > simple woodworking with their parents but are still too > young, I believe, for metal-cutting machine tools. I think > they're ripe for RepRap. They can participate in building > the machine,

Re: [Emc-users] OT- Not quite your hobby sized mill

2012-02-28 Thread Gary Fiber
I have been to Sedro-Woolley, WA several times and did not know there was a CNC engineering firm there. The population was 10,540 at the 2010 census . It is included in the Mount Vernon --Anacortes , Washington Metropolitan Statistical Area . I go to Skagit Speedway several times a summer and

Re: [Emc-users] Ladder Modbus Slave

2012-02-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 07:03 +, Chris Morley wrote: ... snip > When I fire up classicladder (I'm using the parent version not EMC's) > then run sudo netstat -anp --tcp > I see: > tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:95030.0.0.0:* LISTEN > 20701/classicladder > > so that i

[Emc-users] Setting subroutine path

2012-02-28 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Hi all, I am trying to put o-word subroutines in a different folder from nc_files. In the ini file (I tried testing on sim/axis.ini and sim/tkemc.ini) I have: PROGRAM_PREFIX = /home/emcuser/emc2/nc_files So under [RS274NGC] I entered: SUBROUTINE_PATH = /home/emcuser/emc2/subroutines And call it

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes (fwd)

2012-02-28 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/2/28 sam sokolik : > Viesturs > > You must have a > > firmware=whatever.bit > > somewhere... Could it be in your hal file?  Otherwise I don't think it will > work.. No, 5i25 is different from other Mesa pci cards, the firmware is loaded and stored right in the card. When I purchased my 5

[Emc-users] OT- Not quite your hobby sized mill

2012-02-28 Thread dave
Check this mill out. Used to make the molds for the America's Cup boats. http://www.janicki.com/5-axis-milling.html -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library f

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2012-02-28 Thread Dave
>>Linuxcnc has performed flawlessly. It's awesome software. :-) Dave On 2/28/2012 11:25 AM, sam sokolik wrote: > I still have to finalize my control panel. It is still just a piece of > plexi-glass with knobs and dials stuck through it. :) I would like to > make up a pendant (maybe using a

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes (fwd)

2012-02-28 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/2/28 : '/usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/emc2/hm2_pci.ko': -1 No such device My unqualified guess is that 5i25 card is not recognized. I will leave this for more knowledgeable users to comment. Do You have a chance to attach the HDD and 5

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes (fwd)

2012-02-28 Thread Dave
Is your PC now finding the 5i25 card when you do lspci ?? If not, you will never get anything to load onto the card since the PC doesn't recognize that the card exists. If lspci doesn't show the card you should probably try the card in a different PC and see if the OS recognizes the card. Dave

Re: [Emc-users] Ladder Modbus Slave

2012-02-28 Thread Dave
On 2/28/2012 2:03 AM, Chris Morley wrote: > > > >>> CL requires the address and the port number (9502 id default). >>> I somewhat understand the address but not really the port number. >>> Can you elaborate how you found this info? keep in mind I have >>> almost no knowledge of networks other t

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes (fwd)

2012-02-28 Thread sam sokolik
Viesturs You must have a firmware=whatever.bit somewhere... Could it be in your hal file? Otherwise I don't think it will work.. On 2/28/2012 1:41 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2012/2/28: >> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: >> >>> 2012/2/28: Now I have CONFIG="" >>> >>>

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes (fwd)

2012-02-28 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/2/28 : > > '/usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/emc2/hm2_pci.ko': -1 No such device My unqualified guess is that 5i25 card is not recognized. I will leave this for more knowledgeable users to comment. Do You have a chance to attach the HDD and 5i25 to another motherboard for a test to see,

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes (fwd)

2012-02-28 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/2/28 : > On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > >> 2012/2/28  : >>> >>> >>> Now I have CONFIG="" >> >> >> And that is it? No stepgens or pwmgens or encoder modules loaded? >> >> Paste Your INI and HAL files somewhere for public review. >> > > No, I only changed the config line as I unde

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes (fwd)

2012-02-28 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, sam sokolik wrote: > wow - sorry about that > > [HOSTMOT2] > DRIVER=hm2_pci > BOARD=5i23 > CONFIG="firmware=hm2/5i23/SVST8_4.BIT num_encoders=0 num_pwmgens=0 > num_stepgens=3" > > should be > > [HOSTMOT2] > DRIVER=hm2_pci > BOARD=5i25 > CONFIG="num_encoders=0 num_pwmgens=0 num

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes (fwd)

2012-02-28 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/2/28 : Now I have CONFIG="" And that is it? No stepgens or pwmgens or encoder modules loaded? Paste Your INI and HAL files somewhere for public review. No, I only changed the config line as I understood you to say Richard# ###

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes (fwd)

2012-02-28 Thread sam sokolik
wow - sorry about that [HOSTMOT2] DRIVER=hm2_pci BOARD=5i23 CONFIG="firmware=hm2/5i23/SVST8_4.BIT num_encoders=0 num_pwmgens=0 num_stepgens=3" should be [HOSTMOT2] DRIVER=hm2_pci BOARD=5i25 CONFIG="num_encoders=0 num_pwmgens=0 num_stepgens=3" From what I understand. On 02/28/2012 01:24 PM, s

Re: [Emc-users] Ladder Modbus Slave

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 28.02.2012 um 20:12 schrieb Kirk Wallace: > > It seems that Modbus over TCP/IP setups are more common in the wild than > end to end Ethernet Modbus TCP/IP, but if one where to set up LinuxCNC the vfs11_vfd driver I pushed yesterday is a Modbus master which suppports serial as well as in/outg

Re: [Emc-users] Film Emulsion for Encoder Wheels?

2012-02-28 Thread dave
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 09:11:33 -0800 Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 08:48 +, Steve Blackmore wrote: > ... snip > > Most have a resolution of 1200 dpi in mono. I've done PCB masters on > > transparency film with 5 thou lines for contact printing (UV) then > > etching. > ... snip >

Re: [Emc-users] Ladder Modbus Slave

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Haberler
no, that's the TCP destination port, nothing todo with the slave A TCP connection is defined by {sourceip-address,some source port, destip-address,destination port} once established, it's just a bidirectional stream of bytes with no interpretation, just like a serial connection over /dev/ttySome

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes (fwd)

2012-02-28 Thread sam sokolik
I think you need to re-read this... 2) remove the "firmware = [path/to/firmware/file]" part of the "config =" line, keep any commands for loading stepgens, pwmgens or encoder modules, if they are needed for Your machine. I read that as... DRIVER=hm2_pci B OARD=5i23 C ONFIG="firmware=hm2/5i2

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes (fwd)

2012-02-28 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/2/28 : > > Now I have CONFIG="" And that is it? No stepgens or pwmgens or encoder modules loaded? Paste Your INI and HAL files somewhere for public review. Viesturs -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with Learn

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes (fwd)

2012-02-28 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/2/28 : On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: I have set up 2 machines with 5i25 and also with 5i23. I do not remember any address for pci cards in INI or HAL files. Could You, please, explain, what kind of address You mean? In my .hal f

Re: [Emc-users] Ladder Modbus Slave

2012-02-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 13:27 -0500, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > We use modbus & modbus/ip in our products here. For IP, you need both an > ip addr/port AND the modbus slave address. Each device can have > 240-something addresses. Think of an IP to RS485 bridge (moxa and others > make them). I can

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes

2012-02-28 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/2/28 : On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: I have set up 2 machines with 5i25 and also with 5i23. I do not remember any address for pci cards in INI or HAL files. Could You, please, explain, what kind of address You mean? In my .hal f

Re: [Emc-users] Ladder Modbus Slave

2012-02-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 09:48 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip > My guess is that anywhere you would put the serial slave address one can > put the TCP address instead. If you are already changing the port, just > put the IP address in with it, maybe like: > "192.168.1.10:9502" > ^^^IP ADR^^^:^Po

Re: [Emc-users] Ladder Modbus Slave

2012-02-28 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
We use modbus & modbus/ip in our products here. For IP, you need both an ip addr/port AND the modbus slave address. Each device can have 240-something addresses. Think of an IP to RS485 bridge (moxa and others make them). I can talk to any of the slave devices by their modbus address though one

Re: [Emc-users] Ladder Modbus Slave

2012-02-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 07:03 +, Chris Morley wrote: ... snip > When I fire up classicladder (I'm using the parent version not EMC's) > then run sudo netstat -anp --tcp > I see: > tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:95030.0.0.0:* LISTEN > 20701/classicladder > > so that i

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Wendt
I've tried to keep up with what you've been doing with the machine, and have really enjoyed the videos. Glad to see you're almost "there." Mark On 02/28/2012 11:25 AM, sam sokolik wrote: > I still have to finalize my control panel. It is still just a piece of > plexi-glass with knobs and dials

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes

2012-02-28 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:35:25 -0600 (CST) >> From: kqt4a...@gmail.com >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes

2012-02-28 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/2/28 : On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: I have set up 2 machines with 5i25 and also with 5i23. I do not remember any address for pci cards in INI or HAL files. Could You, please, explain, what kind of address You mean? In my .hal f

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2012-02-28 Thread sam sokolik
I still have to finalize my control panel. It is still just a piece of plexi-glass with knobs and dials stuck through it. :) I would like to make up a pendant (maybe using a arduino uno and usb) because it would be nice to be able to jog the machine from the other side. I had tweeked the la

Re: [Emc-users] Mendel, was Re: lathe advice?

2012-02-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/27/2012 6:15 PM, Ian W. Wright wrote: > Hi Kent, > > No, on this one I'm using the stock Arduino electronics - it > was easier to set up and it works fine. I'm using the Marlin > firmware and Repetier host software on an Ubuntu 11.x box > (with Mono to allow the Repetier to work in the linux >

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes

2012-02-28 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:35:25 -0600 (CST) > From: kqt4a...@gmail.com > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes > > On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Vies

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes

2012-02-28 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/2/28 : > On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: >> >> I have set up 2 machines with 5i25 and also with 5i23. I do not >> remember any address for pci cards in INI or HAL files. >> Could You, please, explain, what kind of address You mean? > > > In my .hal file 'loadrt hal_parport cfg="0x3

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes

2012-02-28 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/2/28 : I ordered the card with PROB_RFX2 firmware to drive a probotix controller I am not 100% sure but I thought I would only need to change the addresss in my ini file I have set up 2 machines with 5i25 and also with 5i23. I do not remember

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes

2012-02-28 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/2/28 : > > I ordered the card with PROB_RFX2 firmware to drive a probotix controller > I am not 100% sure but I thought I would only need to change the addresss in > my ini file I have set up 2 machines with 5i25 and also with 5i23. I do not remember any address for pci cards in INI or HAL f

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes

2012-02-28 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/2/28 : I just got a mesa 5i25 I have successfully used this computer, motherboard K8T890, for almost 2 years to run my table top mill If I plug the 5i25 in it does not show up in the hardware list When the pc boots, part of the post is a screen

Re: [Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes

2012-02-28 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/2/28 : > I just got a mesa 5i25 > I have successfully used this computer, motherboard K8T890, for almost 2 > years to run my table top mill > If I plug the 5i25 in it does not show up in the hardware list > When the pc boots, part of the post is a screen showing all installed hardware > The

[Emc-users] mesa 5i25 install woes

2012-02-28 Thread kqt4at5v
I just got a mesa 5i25 I have successfully used this computer, motherboard K8T890, for almost 2 years to run my table top mill If I plug the 5i25 in it does not show up in the hardware list When the pc boots, part of the post is a screen showing all installed hardware The 5i25 is not in that list

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Wendt
I think you need a bigger, faster, stronger mill... ;-) So, does this mean everything is now up and running on the old girl? Mark On 02/27/2012 10:49 PM, sam sokolik wrote: > Random video! > > http://youtu.be/U61ub6mtpH4 > > (we don't like the idea of the probe spinning around in the tool > cha

Re: [Emc-users] lathe advice?

2012-02-28 Thread Peter Blodow
Ian, a couple of years ago I made a whole drawer full of gears, 30 to 240 teeth, for precisely the same purpose, but as I own a tiny combination mill (called UWG, google it), unfortunalely delivered without gears, but set up as CNC, I milled them with a stepper powered dividing head and home m