On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote:
Some real geniuses running the show at Yahoo. Seems the more I hit the
not spam button on mail from Yahoo's groups, the more of those e-mails
it tosses into spam.
Gmail is doing the same thing for me on your emails. I
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 6:50 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 September 2014 23:20, David Bagby d...@calypsoventures.com wrote:
Along those lines, folks may find this interesting:
https://www.lab-nation.com/
2 channel 100 MHz scope, 8 channel logic analyzer, wave for
On 18 September 2014 09:58, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.lab-nation.com/
Along the same lines: http://redpitaya.com
Same problem. These elder eyes would damn near need a microscope to get
any useful detail from the small display.
Neither of those have a display, they
On 18 September 2014 09:59, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote:
Gmail is doing the same thing for me on your emails. I had to create a
filter to keep your replies from ending up in the spam bin.
Yahoo broke the internet If you want people to be able to see your
emails then dump Yahoo.
Pete,
as far as i can see your hal file is fine ,
but
the spindle values in your ini file should be along the lines of
[SPINDLE_9]
ENCODER_SCALE = 4000.0
OUTPUT_SCALE = 10.0
#OUTPUT_MIN_LIMIT = -10.0
#OUTPUT_MAX_LIMIT = 10.0
could you let me know how you have the spindle drive connected and
Hello Gene,
Here is what I have in my HAL files for my machines, all three of my
turning centers have 2 speed transmissions on the spindles.
Just holler if its gets fuzzy, there is a lot going in my file,
Thanks
Rick
-- Original Message --
From: Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com
Hey Guys,
Thanks for all the info,
I did start with the guys at Koma Precision, they weren't of any help
other than they told me it was built in 1984, and they don't have any
records from from back then :(
Jon, I will get that info to you, probably monday or so, had to go pick
up a new 10
On Thursday 18 September 2014 04:58:42 Mark Wendt did opine
And Gene did reply:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 6:50 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 September 2014 23:20, David Bagby d...@calypsoventures.com
wrote:
Along those lines, folks may find this interesting:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
On Thursday 18 September 2014 04:58:42 Mark Wendt did opine
And Gene did reply:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 6:50 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 September 2014 23:20, David Bagby d...@calypsoventures.com
On Thursday 18 September 2014 05:51:45 andy pugh did opine
And Gene did reply:
On 18 September 2014 09:59, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote:
Gmail is doing the same thing for me on your emails. I had to create
a filter to keep your replies from ending up in the spam bin.
Yahoo broke
Hi.
I have the same problem with the mail of Gregg (I'm using a Google account)
.
This anomaly starts few weeks ago .
Alex
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:51 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 September 2014 09:59, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote:
Gmail is doing the same thing
On Thursday 18 September 2014 05:56:06 andy pugh did opine
And Gene did reply:
On 18 September 2014 09:58, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.lab-nation.com/
Along the same lines: http://redpitaya.com
Same problem. These elder eyes would damn near need a microscope
On Thursday 18 September 2014 07:19:10 Rick did opine
And Gene did reply:
Hello Gene,
Here is what I have in my HAL files for my machines, all three of my
turning centers have 2 speed transmissions on the spindles.
Just holler if its gets fuzzy, there is a lot going in my file,
Thanks
On 17.09.14 23:50, andy pugh wrote:
On 17 September 2014 23:20, David Bagby d...@calypsoventures.com wrote:
Along those lines, folks may find this interesting:
https://www.lab-nation.com/
2 channel 100 MHz scope, 8 channel logic analyzer, wave for generator,
pick your favorite screen
This tool work I programmed with it and then reboot my pin showed as
expected
For some reason when I used the tools that come from mesa in there zip file
it didn't report an error but I don't think it was programing it
-Original Message-
From: Peter C. Wallace [mailto:p...@mesanet.com]
On Thursday 18 September 2014 04:05:10 Erik Christiansen did opine
And Gene did reply:
On 17.09.14 23:50, andy pugh wrote:
On 17 September 2014 23:20, David Bagby d...@calypsoventures.com wrote:
Along those lines, folks may find this interesting:
https://www.lab-nation.com/
2
I actually don't use PID on my spindle, just a straight +/-10vdc
command, I handle the acceleration and and other fine tuning in the
drives, there are lowpass filters, and absolute components to calm the
spindle speed readout scale down.
No it's not automatic, I have 2 M-codes setup to change
On 18.09.14 08:45, Gene Heskett wrote:
Actually, compared to the limited BW of the DS203, this is not that bad
a deal.
http://www.diyertool.com/atten-ads1102cal-100mhz-digital-oscilloscope.html
I could drop the card for that one without a lot of arm twisting.
In fact I just did.
Looking
I'd also be interested in some samples. The lathe I am working on has 9 gear
ranges and it might be nice to utilize perhaps three of them to optimize torque
in the speed range desired. The spindle encoder is on the spindle so it will
give actual spindle speed no matter what range the gears are
The VFD takes 0-10V, so the output min is set to 0 and max to 10. When testing
in the PnCConf open loop test the scope confirms that the output voltage is
correct for whatever I enter in the test box for DAC output i.e. 5 gives about
5V, 2 about 2V, etc. that all works fine. The current enable
On 18 September 2014 14:48, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
I There are plenty of inputs available if I wanted to put some sensors on the
gear shifts so LinuxCNC could tell what range it's in.
I have done it without sensors on my mill:
On 18 September 2014 14:56, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
I figured I'd just get the spindle running at a known speed and put a
frequency counter on it to calculate CPR
It's easier just to reset the encoder, then turn the spindle through
one turn, and see what the number is.
--
atp
If you can't fix
Amazon has some 1000 V rated 100:1 probes that have very good feedback
ratings for not much money.
Dave
On 9/18/2014 4:05 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
On 17.09.14 23:50, andy pugh wrote:
On 17 September 2014 23:20, David Bagby d...@calypsoventures.com wrote:
Along those lines, folks may find
That makes sense, you know what voltage you send to the VFD and can measure the
spindle RPM so you can certainly figure which of the known gear ratios has been
selected. Of course my current issue is to get the spindle to do anything under
LinuxCNC :( It runs fine in the PnCConf test...
I'll try that today
--Original Mail--
From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:07:21 +0100
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] New to LinuxCNC and PnCConf and need some help...
On 18 September 2014 14:56,
On 18 September 2014 14:56, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
The current enable and direction outputs work correctly in the open loop test
as well it just has the issue with the instant direction change during decel
when stopping from a reverse run.
I think that this might be due to the way that the
This seems to be pointing to one issue, when I do this in the open loop test,
the box that displays hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.position just jumps between 0 and
0.00025 regardless of whether I have single input encoder checked.
Still not being able to get any spindle operation at all from LinuxCNC
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 11:20:16 -0500
From: p...@wpnet.us
Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] New to LinuxCNC and PnCConf and need some help...
Use halcmd to examine the encoder parameters/pins, and see if counter mode is
set.
If the encoder driver expects a quadrature signal and only gets one phase, it
will count
up and down one count.
You need to tell it that there is only one signal (and the encoder driver needs
to be able
to deal
From the hal:
# ---Encoder feedback signals/setup---
setphm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1
setphm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.filter 1
setphm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.index-invert 0
setphm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.index-mask 0
setphm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.index-mask-invert 0
setp
2.6.3 is fine
what type of encoder are you using ? ,
if you open hal configuration , and then look at the count , and turn the
spindle you should see it increase
On 18 September 2014 17:20, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
This seems to be pointing to one issue, when I do this in the open loop
test, the
if you have skype give me a call , if your near the machine , and we can
sort this out once and for all
On 18 September 2014 17:34, David Armstrong cncbas...@gmail.com wrote:
2.6.3 is fine
what type of encoder are you using ? ,
if you open hal configuration , and then look at the count , and
did you change the jumpers on the 7i76 ?
On 18 September 2014 17:35, David Armstrong cncbas...@gmail.com wrote:
if you have skype give me a call , if your near the machine , and we can
sort this out once and for all
On 18 September 2014 17:34, David Armstrong cncbas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 11:32:22 -0500
From: p...@wpnet.us
Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] New to LinuxCNC and PnCConf and need some help...
The jumpers are for single ended or differential connections to the encoder,
they are all left for single ended since that matches the encoder. The encoder
is only about 36 of wire away from the 7i76.
I don't have skype, I suppose I could drag a laptop out to the shop and see
about installing
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014, at 12:32 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
From the hal:
# ---Encoder feedback signals/setup---
setphm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1
That _should_ be setting it. But looking at a .hal file to see if it should be
setting a bit is not the same using either halcmd
Ok, I'm starting to figure out the halcmd thing...
halcmd shows that the count mode is not being set correctly when testing in
PnCConf. When in linuxCNC halcmd shows that is is being set to TRUE (I edited
it in hal to use TRUE instead of 1). However in linuxCNC halcmd seems to be
showing that
On Thursday 18 September 2014 09:18:00 Rick did opine
And Gene did reply:
I actually don't use PID on my spindle, just a straight +/-10vdc
command, I handle the acceleration and and other fine tuning in the
drives, there are lowpass filters, and absolute components to calm the
spindle speed
On Thursday 18 September 2014 09:20:37 Erik Christiansen did opine
And Gene did reply:
On 18.09.14 08:45, Gene Heskett wrote:
Actually, compared to the limited BW of the DS203, this is not that
bad a deal.
http://www.diyertool.com/atten-ads1102cal-100mhz-digital-oscilloscop
e.html
Mousing is also a lot slower than physical knobs and you have to look where you
are mousing and thus have to take your focus off the screen.
--Original Mail--
From: Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:47:18 -0400
Subject: Re:
On Thursday 18 September 2014 09:48:12 p...@wpnet.us did opine
And Gene did reply:
I'd also be interested in some samples. The lathe I am working on has 9
gear ranges and it might be nice to utilize perhaps three of them to
optimize torque in the speed range desired. The spindle encoder is on
My CNC mill (Lagun 320) has a switch on the gear change lever and the control
will complain if it's not in the correct range for the requested speed. That
mill is next on my LinuxCNC retrofit schedule once I get the lathe sorted and
working properly. The control on the mill has too little
the difference between pncconf and linuxcnc is that the enable is not used
in pncconf
but is in linuxcnc
On 18 September 2014 18:33, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
Ok, I'm starting to figure out the halcmd thing...
halcmd shows that the count mode is not being set correctly when testing
in PnCConf.
as i said before your hal file is fine . and works
On 18 September 2014 19:12, David Armstrong cncbas...@gmail.com wrote:
the difference between pncconf and linuxcnc is that the enable is not used
in pncconf
but is in linuxcnc
On 18 September 2014 18:33, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
Ok, I'm
but if you wish to email me your full config folder as an archive and email
it
i'll run it here , to make 100% certian
you seem you be running in circles , stop running
On 18 September 2014 19:14, David Armstrong cncbas...@gmail.com wrote:
as i said before your hal file is fine . and works
On Thursday 18 September 2014 13:53:32 Gene Heskett did opine
And Gene did reply:
On Thursday 18 September 2014 09:48:12 p...@wpnet.us did opine
And Gene did reply:
I'd also be interested in some samples. The lathe I am working on has
9 gear ranges and it might be nice to utilize perhaps
Ok, new information. It seems spindle operation is being disabled due to
complaints about unexpected real time delay, without any visible notation in
LinuxCNC that anything has been disabled due to an error (poor form).
To summarize the setup:
The PC is one I built a year and a half ago,
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:56:32 -0500
From: p...@wpnet.us
Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] New to LinuxCNC and PnCConf and need some help...
Sorry troubleshooting link is:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TroubleShooting
Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics
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()_() signature to help him gain world domination.
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014, at 04:56 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
Ok, new information. It seems spindle operation is being disabled due to
complaints about unexpected real time delay, without any visible notation
in LinuxCNC that anything has been disabled due to an error (poor form).
Maybe things
No evidence, that's what I was told by someone who was helping me troubleshoot
the original spindle inop in LinuxCNC but working in PnCConf test issue.
Again I have no explanation as to why I can control the spindle just fine -
forward, reverse and any speed I set - in PnCConf but get no
Ok, that red herring has been fried. I went through the troubleshooting steps
and disabled essentially everything disableable in the BIOS. Now the
unexpected realtime delay is gone and the latency test also is producing
better numbers, now ~14000.
The original spindle issue remains, no
I've created a wiki page at:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxCNC_Fest_2014
Now that we (Tx/Rx) are wrapping up the build-out of our new art/craft
space (official opening tonight:
https://www.facebook.com/events/742495875821681/747136395357629/ ) we will
be focusing on preparing for
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:52:05 -0500
From: p...@wpnet.us
Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] New to LinuxCNC and PnCConf and need some help...
On 18 September 2014 22:52, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
The original spindle issue remains, no operation at all from within linuxCNC,
despite normal operation from the PnCConf test. :(
Is there a value on the motion.spindle-speed-abs pin? Is that value
finding its way to the attached signal, and is
That gets back to my earlier post where there seems to be some mismatch in
naming. If others are using 2.6.3 though I would expect if it was an issue it
would have been found some time ago? This is what PnCConf created, not anything
I modified.
Searching the halcmd show I find:
float OUT
expletive deleted
I added the missing rpm in the hal config,
From this: net spindle-vel-cmd-abs = hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinout
To this: net spindle-vel-cmd-rpm-abs = hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinout
And now the spindle runs in linuxCNC. There is still an issue since it seems
doing an S
On 18 September 2014 23:49, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
float OUT10 motion.spindle-speed-out-abs ==
spindle-vel-cmd-rpm-abs
float 0 spindle-vel-cmd-abs ==
hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinout
That looks a bit like a bug in PNCConf.
And now the spindle
I fiddled some more with scale and max and it's actually working now. Scale
1000 and max 1000 to match the current gear the lathe is in. I stepped it
through the speeds from s100 to s1000 by 100s and my optical tachometer
confirmed it was about right. Presumably if the encoder can be setup
More fiddling and it appears the encoder is 2000 CPR. At any given speed
selection the spindle is turning a bit faster than specified, with the
difference becoming greater the higher the speed. I believe this is due to it
being a UK lathe and running at 60Hz instead of 50Hz, at least the
On Thursday 18 September 2014 20:29:43 p...@wpnet.us did opine
And Gene did reply:
More fiddling and it appears the encoder is 2000 CPR. At any given
speed selection the spindle is turning a bit faster than specified,
with the difference becoming greater the higher the speed. I believe
this is
On Thursday 18 September 2014 20:41:09 Gene Heskett did opine
And Gene did reply:
On Thursday 18 September 2014 20:29:43 p...@wpnet.us did opine
And Gene did reply:
More fiddling and it appears the encoder is 2000 CPR. At any given
speed selection the spindle is turning a bit faster than
On 9/18/2014 5:28 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
yahoo hasn't been as big a problem here as googlegroups. The poorly
reformatted, so called html webmail they generate is so hard to read that
mailfilter, which looks at my mailboxes at the ISP account, has been
trained to nuke them on sight, so they
On 19 September 2014 01:29, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
More fiddling and it appears the encoder is 2000 CPR.
2000 is quite likely, as is 2048, you could try 10 turns to be sure.
I seem to recall there was a parameter somewhere for an analog output offset
that I could perhaps use
The first thing
On Thursday 18 September 2014 20:55:34 Gregg Eshelman did opine
And Gene did reply:
On 9/18/2014 5:28 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
yahoo hasn't been as big a problem here as googlegroups. The poorly
reformatted, so called html webmail they generate is so hard to read
that mailfilter, which
Even with the encoder scale set at 2000 and the near scale set to 1.3 I can't
get spindle-at-speed to go true properly. Not sure what else is wrong, I'll
have to double check the encoder. Closed loop would be nice as it would
compensate for the probable gearing issue, though I could probably
On 9/18/2014 5:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
My corrected vision is in the 20-20 area, which is an admission that its
going to hell Andy. 60 years ago it was 20-05 in the eye that now has a
cataract 20-10 in the right, shooting eye. And glasses aren't cheap.
Fortunately I can and have worn the
On 09/18/2014 05:00 PM, Chris Kelley wrote:
Also, we were hoping to have a few scheduled talks that will be
recorded/webcast (something like gotomeeting). We have two Tx/Rx members
signed up to talk and are looking for anyone else who wants to present.
(Personally, I'm hoping someone will give
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote:
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:29:43 -0500
From: p...@wpnet.us
Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] New to LinuxCNC and PnCConf and need some help...
I'm leaning towards making a new pulley. Analog scaling could probably
compensate for it, but ultimately when I do S1000 it does take the VFD up to
60Hz output as shown on the VFD display, which is giving a spindle speed of
closer to 1200. Making a new motor pulley .8x the current diameter
I'm interested in attending as well, particularly if I can get a hotel that
isn't too expensive. I'd be coming from north of Dallas if you are interested
in carpooling Jon, I'm the same Pete C. from RCM.
Pete C.
--Original Mail--
From: Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com
To: Enhanced
Some scope manufacturers use identical hardware for two or more models
and only the model numbers on the case and the firmware are different.
Some don't even have different firmware, just a few ID bits different to
enable or hide various capabilities.
Other equipment has been found like that.
On 9/18/2014 7:08 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
4 Megabytes? Four megabytes?
I don't come anywhere near saving all the email that goes thru this
machine. Some lists are expired and cleaned up daily. But 4 of my main
interests make up for it, the corpus here is north of 15Gb, with some of
it
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