Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 May 2015 at 03:18, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: But now I am back to the G7/G8 diffs which are costing me money I don't think that anything has changed there. But youmay be seeing differences related to starting from scratch. (I don't _know_ that nothing has changed, but I can't

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread John Thornton
Is there a feature in Master that you need to run? When I'm not sure if I touched off correctly I do a chicken check by jogging the tool to a point I know what the DRO should read and see if the DRO is correct. AFAIK machine limits are in machine units and it won't matter if your in G7 or G8.

Re: [Emc-users] value of feed F out

2015-05-11 Thread Andrew
Hi Aram You can use step generator with frequency proportional to machine feed. 2015-05-11 2:26 GMT+03:00 a k pccncmach...@gmail.com: hi i use this board http://www.sensoray.com/PCI_Express_Digital_Output_826.htm digital signal need to be such to sensoray board can recognize it. On Sun,

Re: [Emc-users] Soldering machine: wasCute little machine

2015-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 May 2015 22:40:58 Peter wrote: Surface mount is predominately done in relow ovens. There are not a lot of throgh hole components that are designed for the reflow process. Also appling the solder pate is problematic. There are through hole connectors that are designed for reflow

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 May 2015 at 11:52, John Thornton j...@gnipsel.com wrote: You can also look at the Active G-Codes: box and see if your in G7 or G8 and if your not where you expect change it in the MDI Command. You can also see if the expected number changes in the DRO afterwards too. -- atp If you

Re: [Emc-users] Soldering machine: wasCute little machine

2015-05-11 Thread Peter Homann
Hi Gene, The chemical is Galden 230, an inset liquid with a precise boiling temperature with a very dense energy mist. It costs about $1000 per litre. That's why you don't want the vapour to escape. :) There is the Galden HT 230 version of the liquid that it 1/2 the price. It's boiling temp

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Matt Tucci
I had inland motors on a Kearney and Trekker mill, Most problems I had with that machine was the encoders. The ones built in we're quite small and fit in the motor housing with a small set of gears driving them.I took one apart once the glass disk was damaged, damaged before I started taking it

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 11 May 2015, Rick Lair wrote: Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 10:53:40 -0400 From: Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Emc Users emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question A

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 May 2015 at 15:53, Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com wrote: Any thoughts/ pointers as to what may be causing this? It sounds like the PID tuning might be off. Is this LinuxCNC-controlled or is it a standalone PID? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Rick Lair
Its Linuxcnc controlled, and has been running fine for over a year, the operators started noticing a poor finish on the parts just as of recent. The material is hardened D2 Tool steel, and we are using ceramic and diamond inserts, so machine issues, even very small and non noticeable on a

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Rick Lair
On 5/11/2015 11:02 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: Non linear resolver output points to an overloaded input For a 7I49, I would check that the maximum resolver output voltage is less than 1V RMS (you need to rotate the shaft to find the peak on one or measure both sine and cosine and

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 11 May 2015, Rick Lair wrote: Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 11:14:30 -0400 From: Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

[Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Rick Lair
A little off topic, but I figured this would be the best place to ask, On one of our turning centers using Linuxcnc, the operator was complaining of a poor finish on the bores of the parts we were making. After a lengthy investigation, I saw that while the Z axis was in motion at low speeds (

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 11 May 2015 06:30:26 andy pugh wrote: On 11 May 2015 at 03:18, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: But now I am back to the G7/G8 diffs which are costing me money I don't think that anything has changed there. But youmay be seeing differences related to starting from scratch.

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 May 2015 at 15:07, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I next drive the mounted tool so that it is sitting in gentle contact with the left end of that cut, touch-off z to 0.0, and measure the OD, in this case 32.3mm, and touch off x, redoing it if the DRO diameter isn't correct. The

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread John Thornton
On 5/11/2015 9:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Not since I put homing switches on it. What I am doing now is the auto home, where the x switch is on the front of the saddle set at about .1mm from the max out travel of a hair over 67mm. The switch will not be damaged if it comes all the way to

[Emc-users] LinuxCNC meetup Stuttgart, de 2015 event scheduling

2015-05-11 Thread Christian Stöveken
Looks like we're meeting again this year. scheduling http://doodle.com/h2dct52sepshrxcx What I would like to see happen this year is some 5 minute talks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_talk on your experiences regarding LinuxCNC / conversion projects / related. I'm sure we can convince

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread John Thornton
Or you could just put RS247NGC_STARTUP_CODE = G7 in the RS247NGC section for power on. Of course that won't help with a program changes it and does not put it back. JT On 5/11/2015 9:24 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 11 May 2015 at 15:07, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I next drive the

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 11 May 2015 06:52:26 John Thornton wrote: Is there a feature in Master that you need to run? When I'm not sure if I touched off correctly I do a chicken check by jogging the tool to a point I know what the DRO should read and see if the DRO is correct. AFAIK machine limits are

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread John Thornton
Well it's 274 not 247 JT On 5/11/2015 10:43 AM, John Thornton wrote: Or you could just put RS247NGC_STARTUP_CODE = G7 in the RS247NGC section for power on. Of course that won't help with a program changes it and does not put it back. JT On 5/11/2015 9:24 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 11 May

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread John Thornton
Executing a G20/21 does not affect the DRO in Axis... JT On 5/11/2015 11:11 AM, Rick Lair wrote: Couldn't you just put a G21 in your RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODE = section? Rick On 5/11/2015 12:07 PM, John Thornton wrote: If your DRO is reading with 4 digits of precision your looking in

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 May 2015 at 17:05, Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com wrote: I thought that the deadband value would only effect the positioning when the axis was idle, not while in motion? No, it is the position error required before there is any output from the PID. Out of interest, how big was the tiny

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread John Thornton
The velocity should show up in the preview window when checked off. At least it works in 2.7 pre6... Speaking of versions why are you running Master (2.8)? JT On 5/11/2015 12:02 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: However, speaking of DRO's, there is not a tool velocity display in either the preview

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 11 May 2015 15:19:13 John Thornton wrote: Executing a G20/21 does not affect the DRO in Axis... JT True John. Axis shows the result in inches, or millimeters, as selected by view mode, independently of the machine mode. But this is one of those days I shouldn't have chewed thru

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 11 May 2015 15:21:13 John Thornton wrote: The velocity should show up in the preview window when checked off. At least it works in 2.7 pre6... Speaking of versions why are you running Master (2.8)? JT I figured if I was gonna bleed, I may as well bleed the good stuff. :) I don't

Re: [Emc-users] Axis GUI in 2.6.3 missing the Machine Velocity display ?

2015-05-11 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:36:21PM -0400, Dave Cole wrote: The Axis Gui somewhere along the way lost the Machine Velocity display apparently? ... Under View, there is a show/don't show Machine Velocity selection, but it doesn't work. This is bug #335

[Emc-users] If there's one thing I hate, all the noise, noise, noise, noise

2015-05-11 Thread Tom Easterday
Early on we made a decision to put our VFD into the same cabinet as the rest of the electronics on a lathe retrofit - I originally had two separate cabinets, one for power with vfd and one for electronics. This was to save space and bring the size of the cabinet on the machine down to a more

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 5/11/2015 9:51 AM, Karlsson Wang wrote: Mechanical problem? I'd start with the easiest, take the motor, resolver, encoder apart and clean everything then put it back together. That's also a good time to look for damaged mechanical parts. A fault that has been steadily getting worse or

Re: [Emc-users] If there's one thing I hate, all the noise, noise, noise, noise

2015-05-11 Thread Bruce Layne
I'm sorry to hear that the Rasmi filter didn't help your noise problems. I bought four of them, and I've installed the first one but am 1-3 days away from finally installing that electrical panel and testing the electronics. Without the Rasmi filter, my CNC router has some noise on the VGA

[Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.6.8 is out

2015-05-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
This one's another boring bugfix release. Upgrade if you dislike bugs. The changelog: * Axis GUI: Fix regression of control disabling, SF#423 * Axis GUI: Use a preferred form of switch (closes: SF#411) * gmoccapy GUI: bug in ignore limits solved * gmoccapy GUI: search also in the users

Re: [Emc-users] If there's one thing I hate, all the noise, noise, noise, noise

2015-05-11 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 05/11/2015 06:00 PM, Tom Easterday wrote: Early on we made a decision to put our VFD into the same cabinet as the rest of the electronics on a lathe retrofit - I originally had two separate cabinets, one for power with vfd and one for electronics. This was to save space and bring the

Re: [Emc-users] If there's one thing I hate, all the noise, noise, noise, noise

2015-05-11 Thread Tom Easterday
On May 11, 2015, at 10:49 PM, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote: Another thing, put the outer case back on the computer you have mounted to the door, or cover the large open holes with solid sheet metal or screen. That's as much to keep noise generated by the computer in as it is

Re: [Emc-users] If there's one thing I hate, all the noise, noise, noise, noise

2015-05-11 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Tom, Hard to tell from the picture but I would make sure that ground is properly connected in star configuration, i.e. there is only one ground point [1] in the cabinet and the CNC machine. I suspect you get some ground currents somewhere which possibly cause enough noise to mess up your VFD.

Re: [Emc-users] If there's one thing I hate, all the noise, noise, noise, noise

2015-05-11 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Either move the VFD to its own enclosure or isolate it with sheet metal and metal screening, grounded to the enclosure. That will block RFI/EMI radiating directly from the VFD. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Re: [Emc-users] If there's one thing I hate, all the noise, noise, noise, noise

2015-05-11 Thread Tom Easterday
Thanks for all the info Bruce! I suspect you are right that it is radiated noise. I should probably start with the outbound motor wire from the VFD. It is about 5 ft. long and not shielded. There are also a couple other cables I can shield as well that current aren’t. -Tom On May 11,

Re: [Emc-users] If there's one thing I hate, all the noise, noise, noise, noise

2015-05-11 Thread Bruce Layne
Replacing the unshielded spindle motor cable with a shielded cable and grounding the shield in the electrical panel is probably going to yield the maximum bang for the buck. Your DIN rail mounted ground terminals in the bottom of your panel are a good single point ground for a star configured

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 May 2015 at 17:45, Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com wrote: I had 0.1 in the entry. That is indeed quite small. I think it turns out to be actual inches unless there is an unusual scaling somewhere. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Rick Lair
I had 0.1 in the entry. On 5/11/2015 12:43 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 11 May 2015 at 17:05, Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com wrote: I thought that the deadband value would only effect the positioning when the axis was idle, not while in motion? No, it is the position error required before

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 11 May 2015 06:56:11 andy pugh wrote: On 11 May 2015 at 11:52, John Thornton j...@gnipsel.com wrote: You can also look at the Active G-Codes: box and see if your in G7 or G8 and if your not where you expect change it in the MDI Command. You can also see if the expected number

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Rick Lair
I messed with everything, I even started changing the individual cards on the servo drive, and didn't notice any favorable changes, some even brought out other gremlins, I had a very minute value in the DEADBAND entry in my INI, I zeroed that, and it went away, go figure. I thought that the

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread Rick Lair
Couldn't you just put a G21 in your RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODE = section? Rick On 5/11/2015 12:07 PM, John Thornton wrote: If your DRO is reading with 4 digits of precision your looking in inches, 3 digits of precision and your DRO is showing mm. If you always use mm then change your DRO to mm

Re: [Emc-users] Soldering machine: wasCute little machine

2015-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 11 May 2015 07:23:47 Peter Homann wrote: Hi Gene, The chemical is Galden 230, an inset liquid with a precise boiling temperature with a very dense energy mist. It costs about $1000 per litre. That's why you don't want the vapour to escape. :) Eeeeyuueew, at that price, you don't

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 11 May 2015 10:24:35 andy pugh wrote: On 11 May 2015 at 15:07, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I next drive the mounted tool so that it is sitting in gentle contact with the left end of that cut, touch-off z to 0.0, and measure the OD, in this case 32.3mm, and touch off x,

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Dave Cole
I have had to tweak the deadband value to get rid of loop instability due to worn ball screws. Noise and mechanical slop would cause the loop to hunt badly without some deadband. Sounds like you had a similar problem. Dave On 5/11/2015 12:45 PM, Rick Lair wrote: I had 0.1 in the entry.

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Question

2015-05-11 Thread Karlsson Wang
Mechanical problem? On Mon, 11 May 2015 11:10:52 -0400 Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com wrote: Its Linuxcnc controlled, and has been running fine for over a year, the operators started noticing a poor finish on the parts just as of recent. The material is hardened D2 Tool steel, and we are

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC meetup Stuttgart, de 2015 event scheduling

2015-05-11 Thread Rene Hopf
On 11 May 2015, at 17:39, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like we're meeting again this year. scheduling What I would like to see happen this year is some 5 minute talks on your experiences regarding LinuxCNC / conversion projects / related. I'm sure

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread John Thornton
If your DRO is reading with 4 digits of precision your looking in inches, 3 digits of precision and your DRO is showing mm. If you always use mm then change your DRO to mm in the View menu. Hmm, I don't see a place to set the default units on start up. JT On 5/11/2015 10:43 AM, Gene Heskett

Re: [Emc-users] It looks like I need help understanding 2.8.0

2015-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 11 May 2015 11:51:52 John Thornton wrote: Well it's 274 not 247 JT I can't type John, there is the evidence. The file is correct and it works, something I shoulda done years ago I suspect. Gotta yet back out there. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in