Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-08-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 August 2012 09:20, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I'm just looking at a 16Gb Solid State Drive at £26 but I'm still not sure on the 'life' of that? Will it get warn out or can we disable all of the log writing. I have (accidentally) been using a cheap 8GB flash SATA DOM on my

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-08-02 Thread Les Newell
On Linux an SSD will last for a very long time. If you are paranoid you can use the suggestions on the LinuxCNC wiki for compact flash cards but it probably isn't necessary. I would't run an SSD on Win7 or Win8. They thrash the drive nearly all the time and will wear out an SSD surprisingly

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-08-02 Thread Lester Caine
Les Newell wrote: On Linux an SSD will last for a very long time. If you are paranoid you can use the suggestions on the LinuxCNC wiki for compact flash cards but it probably isn't necessary. I would't run an SSD on Win7 or Win8. They thrash the drive nearly all the time and will wear out an

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-08-02 Thread Jarrett Johnson
I've had bad experiance and good. (I'm sorry Les but I'm going to contradict you [absolutely no offense intended])   I just have had experiance in diametric opposite to what your suggesting. We used to run a machine [centroid, which operates on a linx box] that used an SSD and we replaced

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-08-02 Thread Les Newell
Hi Jarrett, I've had bad experiance and good. (I'm sorry Les but I'm going to contradict you [absolutely no offense intended]) It is good to hear a differnt point of view ;-) One thing that I feel makes a big difference when it comes to SSD's is the quality of the drives. I only use

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-08-02 Thread Dave
I have a couple production machines installed running Mach3/Windows with CF cards as the drives - there are some ways to grab part of the the Windows XP embedded files and use them with Windows XP so you can minimize writebacks to the drives. These computers are going on 3 years running 24x7.

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-08-02 Thread Dave
On 8/2/2012 8:55 AM, Lester Caine wrote: Les Newell wrote: On Linux an SSD will last for a very long time. If you are paranoid you can use the suggestions on the LinuxCNC wiki for compact flash cards but it probably isn't necessary. I would't run an SSD on Win7 or Win8. They thrash the

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-08-02 Thread Jon Elson
Lester Caine wrote: PV530A-ITX from ASRock with the Via PV530 1.8Ghz processor. ONLY a VGA graphics port (no HDMI/TV stuff), parallel and serial, PS/2 mouse and keyboard ... and only £39 ... add £10 for a 2Mb memory stick, and I'm just looking at a 16Gb Solid State Drive at £26 but I'm

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-20 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 7/19/2012 12:14 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 7/19/2012 11:08 AM, Jon Elson wrote: Lester Caine wrote: The 'problem' is with the graphics 'chipset' used. But Intel do not even specify which one is fitted to the D525MW on the website, it just says VGA port But, we KNOW, by exhaustive

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-20 Thread Lester Caine
Kent A. Reed wrote: Silly me. It turns out that all the D2x00 and N2x00 Atom processors include graphics subsystems based on the proprietary PowerVR SGX 545 GPU design (see, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Intel_graphics_processing_units). This includes the D2500, N2600,

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-19 Thread Lester Caine
Viesturs Lācis wrote: I was going to say that the DG945GCLF is still available however it seems that there is no real stock, and the 'replacement' D425 series have the same problem graphics which where the minefield is slowly growing. AFAIK D425 and D525 is the same, just that first one

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-19 Thread andy pugh
On 19 July 2012 07:49, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: The 'problem' is with the graphics 'chipset' used. My DN2800 works absolutely fine at 1024 x 768 out of the VGA port. I do only get the options of 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 but I don't know whether this is because the only thing

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-19 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Now I now the right questions ... this has popped up and looks useful http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7t=78157 Didn't read the whole thread, but it looks like the solution requires a fairly recent kernel. This

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-19 Thread Lester Caine
andy pugh wrote: The 'problem' is with the graphics 'chipset' used. My DN2800 works absolutely fine at 1024 x 768 out of the VGA port. I do only get the options of 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 but I don't know whether this is because the only thing I have plugged it into is my TV and that

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-19 Thread Todd Zuercher
Henry St. Dalton, OH 44618 www.pgrahamdunn.com -Original Message- From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:54 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards? On 19 July 2012 07:49, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-19 Thread Lester Caine
Eric Keller wrote: Now I now the right questions ... this has popped up and looks useful http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7t=78157 Didn't read the whole thread, but it looks like the solution requires a fairly recent kernel. This gets you into building a real-time kernel. Not sure

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-19 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: If ALL I want to run on the ITX boards was LinuxCNC, then things may be a little easier, but the DN2800MT was BOUGHT to run XBMC via HDMI into my tele. Bottom line on that ... no way it's going to work any time soon ...

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-19 Thread Jon Elson
Lester Caine wrote: The 'problem' is with the graphics 'chipset' used. But Intel do not even specify which one is fitted to the D525MW on the website, it just says VGA port But, we KNOW, by exhaustive testing, that the D525 works fine with the 10.04 LinuxCNC install, I have never heard of a

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-19 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 7/19/2012 11:08 AM, Jon Elson wrote: Lester Caine wrote: The 'problem' is with the graphics 'chipset' used. But Intel do not even specify which one is fitted to the D525MW on the website, it just says VGA port But, we KNOW, by exhaustive testing, that the D525 works fine with the 10.04

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-19 Thread andy pugh
On 19 July 2012 17:14, Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com wrote: The only place I don't get satisfaction is in their online communities where I can always find birds of a feather (like when we on this list were struggling with the crappy bios not dealing with parallel port modes properly)

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-19 Thread Lester Caine
Eric Keller wrote: If ALL I want to run on the ITX boards was LinuxCNC, then things may be a little easier, but the DN2800MT was BOUGHT to run XBMC via HDMI into my tele. Bottom line on that ... no way it's going to work any time soon ... HDMI connector is only available with audio in

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-19 Thread Lester Caine
Kent A. Reed wrote: Intel paid a proxy to port the proprietary Windows 7 driver to Linux. That's the good news. The bad news is that the port was specifically for MeeGo and the 3.0 kernel. I gather from the wonderful world of Google hits that it can be pressed into service in non-Meego systems

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-18 Thread Lester Caine
Todd Zuercher wrote: Anyone have any luck with something like this? Intel BOXD2700MUD Intel Atom D2700 Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU Combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813121596 It's the same chipset as the DN2800MT and the D2500HN, so no Linux driver support, and seems

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-18 Thread Todd Zuercher
Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:49 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards? Todd Zuercher wrote: Anyone have any luck with something like this? Intel BOXD2700MUD Intel Atom D2700 Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU Combo http

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-18 Thread Lester Caine
Todd Zuercher wrote: So what is a better option? AT the moment the boards I WOULD have bought are on a long leadtime here. Getting boards that are flexible is getting as difficult as ones with parallel ports. Intel does seem to be following the M$ line and making all new product targeted for

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-18 Thread Jon Elson
Todd Zuercher wrote: So what is a better option? Directron and newegg show the D525MW box in stock. Jon -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and

Re: [Emc-users] Computer Boards?

2012-07-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/7/19 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: I was going to say that the DG945GCLF is still available however it seems that there is no real stock, and the 'replacement' D425 series have the same problem graphics which where the minefield is slowly growing. AFAIK D425 and D525 is the same,