Before this turns completely into another license flame-war. Let's
step back and look at this from a more practical standpoint. I'm going
to list the set of arguments mentioned as to why we need LGPL, since
that is the point being argued, along with questions that would need
to be answered for
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't want everyone to always use it, it can be kept as a helper and
people who wish to have an abstract data model (usually void *) and
access it as a list can provide the iterator. I use it in my mvc
lists,
On 04/08/2008, Ian Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
absolutely and I believe in redoing the navigation would involve redoing the
site. If anyone would like to share any other mock ups other than mekius go
ahead. I personally like simple site designs like this:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:25 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:43:33 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Rhino is java based, so that's out. Then we have SpiderMonkey, which is
currently used by gecko1.9. That's not as fast as
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
I still don't have time to play/help
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:17:30 +0200 (CEST) Dave Andreoli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
I think removing embryo now is not a good idea, there are tons of stuff
that use embryo (also for just a toggle button). For example half of the
projects I have done use embryo (gadman, edje editor, CALCULATOR).
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:50:10 +0200 Cedric BAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:25 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:43:33 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Rhino is java based, so that's out. Then we have
- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:50:10 +0200 Cedric BAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:25 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:43:33 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov
- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:17:30 +0200 (CEST) Dave Andreoli
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
I think removing embryo now is not a good idea, there are tons of
stuff
that use embryo (also for just a toggle button). For example
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:54 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:50:10 +0200 Cedric BAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:25 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:43:33 +0300 Viktor
Having it handled by CVS instead of a webgui-CMS doesn't mean to have no CMS
at all.
There are some CM-systems out there that can create the content out of
simple text files with a simple markup language.
This would allow to keep the CVS structure and have people to write articles
without having
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 21:19 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
ok.
first - i know there will be unhappiness and disagreements. but i've been
thinking and it's time to stop the status-quo here. some people will be pissed
off, some will just be mildly unhappy, some not care, some be happy and some
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:16 AM, Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't want everyone to always use it, it can be kept as a helper and
people who wish to have an abstract data model (usually void *)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:19 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ok.
first - i know there will be unhappiness and disagreements. but i've been
thinking and it's time to stop the status-quo here. some people will be pissed
off, some will just be mildly unhappy, some not
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Cedric BAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
ok.
first - i know there will be unhappiness and disagreements. but i've been
thinking and it's time to stop the status-quo here. some people will be pissed
off, some will just be mildly unhappy, some not care, some be happy and some
overjoyed. i ask to leave flamethrowers at the door.
since
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Cedric BAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:25 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:43:33 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Rhino is java based, so that's out. Then we have
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:19 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ok.
first - i know there will be unhappiness and disagreements. but i've been
thinking and it's time to stop the status-quo here. some people will be pissed
off, some will just be mildly unhappy, some not
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
c. continue development from there.
i hope to get this done in the next few weeks (in august).
So for now, I use cvs, until the switch is done, right?
and
2. trac (bugzilla alternative). this integrates with svn - ticket numbers in
log commits
great news!
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:19 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ok.
first - i know there will be unhappiness and disagreements. but i've been
thinking and it's time to stop the status-quo here. some people will be
pissed
off, some will just be mildly
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:19 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and i want to put in other cvs modules:
misc/ - misc/
eterm/ - old/eterm/
web/www - www/
e16/ - old/e16/
e_modules/ - apps/e_modules
Since both Eterm and e16 are actively maintained and use some of the
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:12:53 +0200 Peter Wehrfritz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
c. continue development from there.
i hope to get this done in the next few weeks (in august).
So for now, I use cvs, until the switch is done, right?
and
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:05:33 -0500 Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:19 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and i want to put in other cvs modules:
misc/ - misc/
eterm/ - old/eterm/
web/www - www/
e16/ - old/e16/
e_modules/
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Before this turns completely into another license flame-war. Let's
step back and look at this from a more practical standpoint. I'm going
to list the set of arguments mentioned as to why we need LGPL, since
that is the
Build log for Enlightenment DR 0.17 on 2008-08-04 07:11:53 -0700
Build logs are available at http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs
Packages that failed to build:
enna http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/enna.log
epdf http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/epdf.log
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 08:57 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Cedric BAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:25 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:43:33 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov [EMAIL
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:12:53 +0200 Peter Wehrfritz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
c. continue development from there.
i hope to get this done in the next few weeks (in august).
So for now,
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:23:11 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:05:33 -0500 Nathan Ingersoll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:19 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and i want to put in
Le lundi 4 août 2008, Carsten Haitzler a écrit :
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:49:05 +0200 Raoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Here is my feedback about Edje.
aaah raoul! - btw.. calaos is fantastic - what you've done is great and you
ahve heavily used efl... so it's one of the prime examples here and
Jorge Luis Zapata Muga wrote:
Hi all, as you all (most) know, eina has hit proto cvs. I think
several things have to be explained, references to eina's license,
code and so have appeared on different threads and honestly following
them all is very complicated and is also hard to actually
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 01:27 +1000, David Seikel wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:23:11 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:05:33 -0500 Nathan Ingersoll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:19 AM, The Rasterman Carsten
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:44:22 +0200 Kim Woelders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not that I think my opinion is particularly relevant or that it will
help in one direction or the other, but I'll just state it anyway:
I think there should be One License for The Enlightenment Project.
I think the
I completely agree with you. Just one note: the CORE* libraries and the
main product (e17 itself) should be licensed under one license. Currently
it's BSD, so when developing a new core lib (in this case it's Eina) it
should be also BSD. If someone wants to develop some app or some lib that is
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:45:42 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 01:27 +1000, David Seikel wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:23:11 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:05:33 -0500 Nathan Ingersoll
[EMAIL
I want to point out that as the person asking for the change, the
burden of proof is on you. Therefore, look at your statements below
and show us solid proof behind any of them.
For every example you give of an open source project that supposedly
succeeded because of it's license being GPL/LGPL,
do it up.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
May I also suggest we also move to a single wiki (Trac) and get rid of
MediaWiki
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracWikiConversion
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Peter Wehrfritz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
whoops messed up on the link it's
http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/126/3/0/Inkscape_Site_develfront_by_duckgoesoink.png
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 04/08/2008, Ian Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
absolutely and I believe in redoing the
In all honesty, I don't think a license makes or breaks a project.. unless
of course it's closed source. I don't think you're realizing how much crap
has to be done to change licenses for little to no reason.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to
Hello,
We at OpenBossa (opensource stream of INdT) are pleased to announce the
first version of QEdje, a library that enables the use of Edje
components in Qt4.
I guess I don't need to describe Edje for you :-), so I'm skipping that.
This is experimental code, some features are not implemented
Cool, any change of geting a GEdje (GTK)? I mean, to use with Gambas,
for example?
Regards.
On Aug 4, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Caio Oliveira wrote:
Hello,
We at OpenBossa (opensource stream of INdT) are pleased to announce
the
first version of QEdje, a library that enables the use of Edje
Cool, any change of geting a GEdje (GTK)? I mean, to use with Gambas,
for example?
Hi. Our focus today is extending and optimizing QEdje (Qt) so
currently there're no plans to develop something as a GEdje.
Best regards,
--
Eduardo M. Fleury
OpenBossa labs - INdT
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:16:47 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 08:57 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Cedric BAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:25 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:27:32 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:23:11 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:05:33 -0500 Nathan Ingersoll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:19 AM, The
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:44:08 +0200 Peter Wehrfritz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
I'm not talking here about a handful of bug reports. We have 75 open
bugs for ewl many of them with examples to reproduce them, with initial
patches and long discussions, and we have a history of 148 resolved
Hi all
I have problem using E_Hal (adn/or E_DBus) in an e module:
If I use: #include E_DBus.h
I always get:
In file included from /usr/local/include/E_Hal.h:3,
from e_mod_main.c:3:
/usr/local/include/E_DBus.h:42: error: expected ‘{’ before ‘void’
After a discussion in IRC we ended up with a solution. We will convert both
Mediawiki and Bugzilla's content and throw it in Trac using scripts that
were made exactly for this purpose (by the Trac team). Hopefully without
much problems.
I will also help with the rest of the by-hand work with the
to play with it first... the question is.. embryo - keep for compatibility
(after the lua change) or throw out? i would keep it anyway while adding
lua...
but then.. remove or not? i am listening to those using embryo right now.
Well, until Lua is in place I see no problem in keeping Embryo
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:02:38 -0300 Caio Marcelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
to play with it first... the question is.. embryo - keep for compatibility
(after the lua change) or throw out? i would keep it anyway while adding
lua... but then.. remove or not? i am listening to those using embryo
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 02:51:06 +0300 Luchezar Petkov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
sounds like a good simplification :)
After a discussion in IRC we ended up with a solution. We will convert both
Mediawiki and Bugzilla's content and throw it in Trac using scripts that
were made exactly for this
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 10:07 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:02:38 -0300 Caio Marcelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
to play with it first... the question is.. embryo - keep for compatibility
(after the lua change) or throw out? i would keep it anyway while adding
oh absolutely - the question more is.. to release edje 1.0 - do we remove
embryo after lua is up and fully functional (equivalent to embryo or better)
I guess this depends more on how much it will take to get Lua up. The
more Lua takes to be done (or at least, the more time Lua is in Edje,
:O WOW!
You guys rock my socks off! Does this mean we can get an Edje QT
engine in the near future?
Toma
2008/8/5 Eduardo Fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Cool, any change of geting a GEdje (GTK)? I mean, to use with Gambas,
for example?
Hi. Our focus today is extending and optimizing QEdje (Qt) so
2008/8/5 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
:O WOW!
You guys rock my socks off! Does this mean we can get an Edje QT
engine in the near future?
I mean an engine to make KDE themes with... I might have to take a
stab at some KDE themes.
Toma
Toma
2008/8/5 Eduardo Fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Cool, any
Just a small follow up on this question for those who are interested
in this topic.
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, I'm not. What I want is to stop cooking things that are already
done. Sometimes I really think that Mark Shuttleworth is
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Caio Marcelo wrote:
Just a small follow up on this question for those who are interested
in this topic.
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, I'm not. What I want is to stop cooking things that are already
done.
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