Re: [E-devel] E CVS: apps/e jeffdameth

2008-01-07 Thread dan sinclair
On 7-Jan-08, at 10:26 AM, Michael Jennings wrote: > On Monday, 07 January 2008, at 09:21:25 (-0600), > Ravenlock wrote: > >> Either way... the sources are a hodgepodge of formatting. I wonder >> what folks would think of a document formalizing the style of the >> sources. And possible a set of s

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread dan sinclair
Vincent Torri wrote: > about these suggestions, would it be interesting to add them in the trac > main page ? I think wiki.enlightenment.org would make more sense then trac. dan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsof

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread dan sinclair
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > better than in the mailing list :) though trac is also a wiki... :) but as > such > the trac stuff is for more of an "official todo list". SoC stuff is right now > just banter :) > Is this were I resist the urge to mention that having two wiki's seems s

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-26 Thread dan sinclair
Jess wrote: > Is there a dedicated person we should send the email to? Or just email the > list? Sorry, not familiar with the etiquette here. > Recording them into wiki.enlightenment.org would probably be the best bet. A much more stable and easy to use record then the mailing list. dan ---

[E-devel] Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Currently Ewl positions widgets based on absolute coordinates. This works but isn't unnecessarily optional. Thoughts on changing the internals of Ewl to use parent relative placement of widgets? This would, hopefully, simplify some of the container code and allow for more code re-use internall

Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] more works and fixes for wallpaper fetcher

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Jose Gonzalez wrote: > Massimiliano wrote: > > > > > Might I suggest exporting the efreet xml parser and use it > > > > instead? Does anyone object? Using strstr to parse xml isn't > > > > very nice. > > > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > On my side i don't have any preference, i initial

Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] more works and fixes for wallpaper fetcher

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
ctly provide stellar parsing performance does it?, > which appears to me a majority of peoples complaints regarding XML use. > > Dale. > > > > dan sinclair wrote: >> Jose Gonzalez wrote: >> >>> Massimiliano wrote: >>> >>> > >

Re: [E-devel] Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Jose Gonzalez wrote: > Dan wrote: > > > Currently Ewl positions widgets based on absolute coordinates. This > > works but isn't unnecessarily optional. Thoughts on changing the > > internals of Ewl to use parent relative placement of widgets? > > > > This would, hopefully, simplify some

Re: [E-devel] Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Peter Wehrfritz wrote: > dan sinclair schrieb: >> Currently Ewl positions widgets based on absolute coordinates. This >> works but isn't unnecessarily optional. Thoughts on changing the >> internals of Ewl to use parent relative placement of widgets? >> >>

Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] more works and fixes for wallpaper fetcher

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
PI from an app development perspective. > > Dale. > dan sinclair wrote: >> I'm assuming that they'd love some performance related patches. >> Writing something from scratch isn't a good response to a performance >> issue unless there is some fundamental r

Re: [E-devel] Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Jose Gonzalez wrote: > > You can do this now with Ewl. The only problem being, everything > > is absolute coordinates which is a bit strange for this kind of > > widget. If you want to do this, inherit ewl_box, remove configure > > event, add your own configure and use ewl_object_place to put

Re: [E-devel] SoC "Object Layout Library" was: "Ewl widget positioning"

2008-03-20 Thread dan sinclair
andres wrote: > El Wednesday 19 March 2008 19:26:18 dan sinclair escribió: >> Currently Ewl positions widgets based on absolute coordinates. This >> works but isn't unnecessarily optional. Thoughts on changing the >> internals of Ewl to use parent relative placement of

Re: [E-devel] Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-23 Thread dan sinclair
Jose Gonzalez wrote: >> > >However you have it (though rel coords would seem best), >> > > if you really want ewl to be a flexible tool for building >> > > artistic, rich apps, then you'll want a natural way to >> > > arbitrarily position child *widgets* - not just evas objects.. >> > > an

Re: [E-devel] R: Unified theme for apps

2008-03-30 Thread dan sinclair
Toma wrote: >> I'm not sure, but I think it's possible to place the EWL and ETK theme >> inside the e17 theme itself...someone can confirm this? >> >> > > No you cant. They both have seperate EDJ's and their own theme choosers. > Toma Actually, you can. At least with Ewl you could combine the t

Re: [E-devel] Unified theme for apps

2008-03-31 Thread dan sinclair
The DarkMaster wrote: > I think almost everyone is understimating the problem. This is a very bad > issue only Enlightenment has and a lot people asks why does this happen, > even in our OpenGEU FOrums. Even creting EWL, ETK, etc. themes is really > something bad a user has to do. Once you create a

Re: [E-devel] Unified theme for apps

2008-04-01 Thread dan sinclair
andres wrote: > El Tuesday 01 April 2008 14:57:04 The DarkMaster escribió: >> Andre's idea looks very interesting to me (I never mentioned, by the way, >> that EWl or anything else should be reduced to something like GTK. > Oh. I didn't meant to say you wanted that. My point was that complete unit

Re: [E-devel] Unified theme for apps

2008-04-01 Thread dan sinclair
andres wrote: > dj2 wrote: >> Ewl themes don't have a 'label' text portion of the button. The button >> has a child label widget which is the text. >> > well, that's not important, each theme file (theme_ewl.edj, theme_etk.edj) > uses the elements as needed, the end result will be the same from th

Re: [E-devel] Unified theme for apps

2008-04-01 Thread dan sinclair
andres wrote: > El Tuesday 01 April 2008 18:17:01 dan sinclair escribió: >> The thing is, you aren't gaining anything. The themer still has to theme >> everything twice. All you have is a basic set of images they reference. >> Which they could have, and just copy into th

Re: [E-devel] Unified theme for apps

2008-04-01 Thread dan sinclair
andres wrote: > El Tuesday 01 April 2008 18:33:22 dan sinclair escribió: >> I think this is a lot of effort to save the themer the extra 20 minutes >> it will take to change the images in the 3 theme files instead of just one. >> > This covers much more than images. T

Re: [E-devel] Unified theme for apps

2008-04-01 Thread dan sinclair
Jose Gonzalez wrote: > dan sinclair wrote: > >> To what end? What's the point of tying them together like this? It would >> be better, in the long run, to just have a single widget library instead >> of 3. >> >> > > The 'one t

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/efreet dj2

2008-05-07 Thread dan sinclair
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Enlightenment CVS committal >> >> Author : dj2 >> Project : e17 >> Module : libs/efreet >> >> Dir : e17/libs/efreet/src/lib >> >> >> Modified Files: >> efreet_ini.c >> >> >> Log Message: >> - if we can't parse the INI file we can't set ini->data so return NULL

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/efreet raster

2008-05-28 Thread dan sinclair
Why did you comment out all the printfs for invalid files? Those can be useful if the .ini file is actually screwed up. dan Enlightenment CVS wrote: > Enlightenment CVS committal > > Author : raster > Project : e17 > Module : libs/efreet > > Dir : e17/libs/efreet/src/lib > > > Modifi

Re: [E-devel] [RFC] EET crypto and signature support.

2008-06-16 Thread dan sinclair
Michael Jennings wrote: > On Monday, 16 June 2008, at 15:33:23 (+0200), > Cedric BAIL wrote: > >> On this topic, I believe we have two choice, libtomcrypt >> (http://libtom.org/?page=features&newsitems=5&whatfile=crypt) and >> openssl. My opinion on this subject is certainly biased as I already

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/ecore ravenlock

2008-06-28 Thread dan sinclair
Your code marked Dead code is actually code used to shut up compiler warnings about unused variables. So, not dead. dan On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Enlightenment CVS < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Enlightenment CVS committal > > Author : ravenlock > Project : e17 > Module : libs/ecore >

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread dan sinclair
On 22-Jul-08, at 3:58 PM, Dan Kronstal wrote: > I don't know if I'm missing the point here, but it sounds like > OpenID is > redundant. What we've got here is three subdomains with three > logins/accounts when they could all be using one instead. bugtracker/ > trac > are their own sites with t

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-24 Thread dan sinclair
On 24-Jul-08, at 5:26 PM, Peter Wehrfritz wrote: > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri schrieb: >> One thing I'd like to see here is the opinion of those that do most >> of >> the code these days, guys like englebass, dj2, pfritz and raster. You >> wrote lots of code already, and continue to do, what do y

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-24 Thread dan sinclair
On 24-Jul-08, at 1:25 PM, Vincent Torri wrote: >> i have to say now.. success in the open source world is utterly >> UNRELATED to >> what kind of open source license you use. it is a hindrance if you >> are not >> open. in fact GPL as a license for a library can be a hindrance. i >> could qu

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-25 Thread dan sinclair
On 25-Jul-08, at 7:48 PM, Jose Gonzalez wrote: > Peter wrote: > >> to it and the original code was LGPL. But would you share code with >> someone, that doesn't share code with you? >> > > Good point. And that's precisely why many people don't like to > contribute to bsd licensed projects.

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-27 Thread dan sinclair
On 27-Jul-08, at 5:54 AM, Jose Gonzalez wrote: > As you never cared about building a large community of foss > developers, > you have thus helped to create a largely dysfunctional project > starved of > resources. That's as much a part of E's legacy as anything good it > may have > stoo

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread dan sinclair
On 31-Jul-08, at 3:48 PM, Bruno wrote: > On Thu, 31 July 2008 Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If anything, it might be an idea to ask people, what 'needs' to be >> done? I see a few people on IRC and on forums saying, "E17 is good, >> but its just not finished/has bits missing". Some lusers go

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread dan sinclair
On 31-Jul-08, at 4:14 PM, Bruno wrote: > On Thu, 31 July 2008 dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 31-Jul-08, at 3:48 PM, Bruno wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 31 July 2008 Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> If anything, it might be an idea to a

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
> That's true, and it is bad. If we want to use it we have to clean up > the aggregated feeds. In fact planet is just a feed aggregator, a very > good feed aggregator, but imho it could be good to have an official E > blog. I really don't see the point of a blog. Why not just put your blog entry

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 2:34 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: >> >> 2. E planet!?! Developers and power users should few lines on e >> status of >> developement. This involves. > > right now, e planet has not a lot of topics related to development > You'll also notice that about 90% of planet.e.o content is my

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 10:40 AM, Matteo wrote: >> because raster did it like that :-D >> I'm not sure why people don't want to use a cms, but I've being told >> that they want to keep like that (cvs based). > > > If you keep it CVS-based, it's hard to develop and hard to update > with news, > topic an

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 2:49 PM, Michael Jennings wrote: > On Friday, 01 August 2008, at 20:38:46 (+0200), > Vincent Torri wrote: > >> I have no design, but i have already complained about the web site >> on the ML. I'm not a good designers, but i think that there are some >> things that MUST appear on a

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 3:41 PM, Veli Ogla Sungutay wrote: > Articles friends. We need lots of them. Even a small tutorial, small > usage > examples would do. Saying we need articles is fine. Finding people to write good articles is hard. dan --

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 2:04 PM, Ian Caldwell wrote: > What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you > think it > should have. > My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel > free to > chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site > > *1.

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 4:47 PM, dan sinclair wrote: >> *5. weekly or biweekly articles* >> > > Ditto to 1. They can also write the articles on the Wiki which is > probably a better choice. Makes them easier to maintain in the long > run. They can then be linked from the m

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina cedric

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
The COPYING file for this is currently blank. What license is this work under? Can someone please fill in the COPYING file. Thanks, dan On 30-Jul-08, at 8:46 AM, Enlightenment CVS wrote: > Enlightenment CVS committal > > Author : cedric > Project : e17 > Module : proto/eina > > Dir : e

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 7:40 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: > I can do that. I've been reading the CVS logs, E-devel discussions > and stuff > for years, so I think I can post news and blog about the major > events in the > community/changes in the E(FL). The problem is, I am quite tech- > interested, >

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 6:17 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > yeah. i agree we need releases. it's probably our biggest issue. > right now in > lib-space i'd want to clean up 2 major thnigs that are currently > underway: > > 1. eina - move fully to using it. remove all data stuff from eco

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 8:38 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: > Setup a blog on one of the many blogging platforms around and we can > syndicate the feed to planet.e.org. As relevant posts appear we can > add news items about them that point back to the blog. > > http://enlightenedjournal.wordpress.com/ >

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 8:46 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> There is also a bug in Edje that has bitten us in Ewl a few times >> where re-using Edje objects seems to cause strange things to hang >> around. I believe pfritz was the last person to look into this so he >> might have some more

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 8:55 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:53 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On 1-Aug-08, at 8:38 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: > Setup a blog on one of the many blogging platforms around and we can > syndicat

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 8:55 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:53 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On 1-Aug-08, at 8:38 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: > Setup a blog on one of the many blogging platforms around and we can > syndicat

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 12:33 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > Guys, maybe you're forgetting about it, maybe you're hiding behind the > "we have not released a stable version for this reason", but the fact > is that this will happen even now. Since there was not a release, > people just assumed that

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 12:52 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:39 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> You're releasing something before it should be released just to >> give the >> impression of a 1.0 for something that

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 1:03 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: > > >>> This is probably better to do before we release. If we put out Edje >>> with Embryo support and then remove Embryo with Edje2 we'll be >>> pissing >>> off a lot of people that create themes and applications. Better to >>> bite the bullet an

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 1:37 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote: >> >> On 2-Aug-08, at 1:03 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: >> >>>>> This is probably better to do before we release. If we put out >>>>> Edje >>>>&

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 1:40 AM, Nick Hughart wrote: > Vincent Torri wrote: >> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote: >> >> >>> I'd say you're so eager to release something you're not thinking >>> about >>> the impression it gives. Cha

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 1:51 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: > > > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote: > >> >> How does our changing now affect them any different then if we >> changed in 6 months? > > As I said, you think that we will release the next major releas

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:18 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:53 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> On 2-Aug-08, at 1:40 AM, Nick Hughart wrote: >>> Vincent Torri wrote: >>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote: &

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:42 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:12:00 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > babbled: > >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:46 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> oh of course. details! :) we can dot

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:12 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > As I said, it already happened, don't hide under the "we did not > official 1.0 yet". No, it hasn't. If a company jumped on _alpha_ level software and started to develop around it they have to expect that changes are coming. Hence the

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] cms?

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
We've tried this about 3 times. Someone comes along and says if we have a CMS non-technical people will write articles. We implement a CMS. No-one writes articles. We drop the CMS. If you want to write news releases put them on blogs. Or write a news blurb for the front page. If longer artic

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] cms?

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:55 PM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty wrote: > I'm not saying having a CMS will suddenly bring people to write. > That's a separate problem. > I think it will not BLOCK people from writing. There's a difference. > There are various avenues we can pursue to attract writers. > Bounties, r

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:58 PM, Vincent Torri wrote: > On Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:03:41 +0200 Andreas Volz >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: >> >>> I vote to use LUA for scripting too. I've embedded it into several >>> commercial products in the p

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 7:59 PM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga wrote: > License > As most of the code on efl-research project (and most of *my* code) it > does not have COPYING file, it was left out on purpose, basically to Leaving out a COPYING file basically makes the code proprietary. No- one can use it with

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 9:41 PM, Blake Barnett wrote: > On Aug 1, 2008, at 10:53 PM, dan sinclair wrote: >> >> It all comes down to when you're doing the 2.0 release. If you do a >> 2.0 release in a few months it looks like we just rushed a 1.0 out >> the >> do

Re: [E-devel] Eina licence

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 3:38 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: >> I won't help if it's LGPL. I also won't link to it in my code as I >> won't fix bugs in it. > > People like Cedric and Gustavo and their companies are more open > minded than you. Their companies work with and on the efl. With he > BSD licence, t

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> It seems the license question is still very much discussed. Until >> now I >> didn't say much about it. But now I like to add my 2 cents to that >> topic

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:27 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:07 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[E

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:30 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:15 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[E

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 2:50 PM, Hisham Mardam Bey wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:46 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:27 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>> >>> Hey, but that's ok for _YOU_, isn't it?! Y

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 4:28 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:46 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> People contributing to the community? Sure that's ok for me. That's >> ok for >> everyone I believe

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 4:31 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:48 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Yes, and it's up to the company to decide what they need to keep >> private to >> make money. That's how companies

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 10:07 PM, Nick Hughart wrote: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> babbled: >> >> >>> Ian Caldwell wrote: >>> Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages >>>

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
Andrew Williams wrote: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> > This would be a feature I would like to add (as an option ;) ) >> 5. forums of edevelop - how would we get xsm to handle that with minimum pain >> (don't say we need to write our own forum engine!) >> >> > The easiest is to

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
Andrew Williams wrote: > dan sinclair wrote: >> Andrew Williams wrote: >>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>>> >>> This would be a feature I would like to add (as an option ;) ) >>>> 5. forums of edevelop - how would we get xsm to han

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
Michael Jennings wrote: > 2. Unintuitive? > > Blake says XSM's editing interface is unintuitive. I can see some > room for improvement, but straight HTML in a textarea seems pretty > intuitive to me, albeit not as user-friendly as it could be. > Just to add to this. I do have access to update

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
Andrew Williams wrote: > dan sinclair wrote: >> >> Can XSM integrate with things like LDAP or other authentication >> schemes? Or, would it be hard to add? Or, another way, what are the >> available authentication mechanisms available in XSM as that would >> n

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
Andrew Williams wrote: > The "New" tab is for making new pages. > > To add a new post use the "New article" icon instead, which is at the > top of the edit screen. (just above the articles that already exist). > > The idea is that the "new xxx" icon will insert content in the location > that it i

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: apps/e manowarrior

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
There doesn't seem to be an e17_icon_system.png in CVS. dan Enlightenment CVS wrote: > Enlightenment CVS committal > > Author : manowarrior > Project : e17 > Module : apps/e > > Dir : e17/apps/e/data/themes > > > Modified Files: > default_icons.edc > > > Log Message: > > >

[E-devel] Continuing the website saga

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
Hello, Ok, haven't got a lot of responses (not that I gave it a huge amount of time, I'm inpatent) but, a follow on email to what we want out of the site. How do we get it. Lets us assume, for now, XSM is our CMS of choice. It will handle the static pages for all 'normal pages'. It will handle

Re: [E-devel] Continuing the website saga

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
On 12-Sep-06, at 11:37 PM, David Seikel wrote: > On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:38:27 -0400 dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> The FAQ will be XSM. If we want to hook up for the user to download >> the faq to their system we can grab the .xml file XSM generates an

Re: [E-devel] Continuing the website saga

2006-09-13 Thread dan sinclair
Andrew Williams wrote: > dan sinclair wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Ok, haven't got a lot of responses (not that I gave it a huge amount >> of time, I'm inpatent) but, a follow on email to what we want out of >> the site. >> >> How do we get it.

Re: [E-devel] Continuing the website saga

2006-09-13 Thread dan sinclair
On 13-Sep-06, at 8:04 PM, Kevin Brosius wrote: > dan sinclair wrote: >> >> Just thought of two more possible things for the site. > > I think you are going way overboard. :P > Maybe. We possibly don't want half the things that I've listed. I'm just tryi

Re: [E-devel] Continuing the website saga

2006-09-13 Thread dan sinclair
On 13-Sep-06, at 9:38 PM, Kevin Brosius wrote: > dan sinclair wrote: >> >> >> >> On 13-Sep-06, at 8:04 PM, Kevin Brosius wrote: >> >>> dan sinclair wrote: >>>> >>>> Just thought of two more possible things for the site. >>&g

Re: [E-devel] make e_utils/entangle use desktop

2006-11-08 Thread dan sinclair
Lut!n wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > Here is a **quick** fix to have entangle working with .desktop files. > I don't have the time nor the skill to implement the FDO icon search > thing, so the way it searches for an icon is : > 1. iconpath specified in the .

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/engrave leviathan

2007-01-02 Thread dan sinclair
Enlightenment CVS wrote: > Enlightenment CVS committal > > Author : leviathan > Project : e17 > Module : libs/engrave > Thanks for picking this up. We've been kind of ignoring it as nothing has been using it. As an aside, engrave currently has problems with the e17.edj theme from EWL. It isn

Re: [E-devel] Edje editor updates + engrave big patch

2007-01-13 Thread dan sinclair
DaveMDS wrote: > Hi all, some update for my work on the edje_editor: > > Tonight I have committed a new editor release. > This version need the attached engrave patch that implement the following: > * There is no more one evas object per part_state, but one per part. >Because we never had to d

Re: [E-devel] efreet - freedesktop menu/icon/desktop spec implementation

2007-01-17 Thread dan sinclair
Peter Parkanyi wrote: > On Wednesday 17 January 2007 15:15, you wrote: >> On Wednesday 17 January 2007 01:14, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga wrote: >> > On 1/17/07, Brian Mattern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > The next question is, assuming you guys see it as a viable replacement >> >

Re: [E-devel] efreet - freedesktop menu/icon/desktop spec implementation

2007-01-17 Thread dan sinclair
D. Hageman wrote: > > I guess the real questions that should be asked: > > a) How many non-standard libaries does one project need to support > their project? At what point are there too many? > Define non-standard. None of the efl libraries are 'standards'. We separate things into librarie

Re: [E-devel] edje_decc patch

2007-02-05 Thread dan sinclair
Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > DaveMDS [2007-02-05 05:05]: >> here's a patch for edje_decc that create a file called default.edc in >> the decompiled source dir. >> >> The file contents is only a line that include the main edc file. >> If the default.edc file exist none is created >> With this patch I

Re: [E-devel] efreet - freedesktop menu/icon/desktop spec implementation

2007-02-10 Thread dan sinclair
On 9-Feb-07, at 6:14 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:11:33 -0600 Brian Mattern > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > >> Currently we have code to build menus, find icons, and load desktop >> entries complete. There are a few things left to finish (most >> impor

Re: [E-devel] Patch for e_modules to add support to gettext with automake-1.10

2007-02-15 Thread dan sinclair
David Seikel wrote: > Another major problem, at least as far as I'm concerned, is that > autotools is forever trying to sneak in GPL licenses and FSF > copyrights. I've pointed this out to Marc-Andre in private emails, > and I probably mentioned this the last time around. E17 is BSD licensed > an

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code.

2007-03-02 Thread dan sinclair
Gil Pinheiro wrote: >> we have tried to get in for the past few years and been rejected. last time >> we >> were rejected basically because "enlightenment is not relevant and is a dead >> project of no interest" which is my summary/paraphrasing of what google >> thinks >> of us. so good luck. i h

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/evas raster

2007-03-06 Thread dan sinclair
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > unfortunately - we have issues like fdo menus and icon specs that REQUIRE svg > support... :(:(:( big problems :( i could do something like fork of a child > process that converts via a pipe - at least if it dies the parent won't, and > we > will hit a pe

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/engrave davemds

2007-03-12 Thread dan sinclair
Enlightenment CVS wrote: > Enlightenment CVS committal > > Author : davemds > Project : e17 > Module : libs/engrave > > @@ -452,10 +452,9 @@ > >font_key = engrave_part_state_text_font_get(eps); >efont = engrave_file_font_by_name_find(ef, font_key); > - font_name = engrav

Re: [E-devel] Is efreet still coming?

2007-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Christopher Michael wrote: > Brian Mattern wrote: >> Loading .desktop files, finding icons and parsing / building menus all >> works. Executing desktops (and even downloading the files if necessary) >> has been implemented. >> >> There may be a small amount of work left to be done to properly do m

Re: [E-devel] Is efreet still coming?

2007-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Brian Mattern wrote: > > Efreet is pretty much complete, other than being itegrated into e17. > Unfortunately, dan doesn't use e17 on anymore and seb and I have been > pretty busy lately. > I still use e17 at work, but don't have time to do development there. I just don't use it at home anymor

Re: [E-devel] Is efreet still coming?

2007-03-20 Thread dan sinclair
Christopher Michael wrote: > I've been reading through the efreet code and it's not too shabby, so > big (insert your favorite type) cookie to the authors there :) but > before I jump head first into this porting nightmare I have a few > remaining questions > > 1) Is it really worth the ef

Re: [E-devel] E and gui-toolkits.

2007-03-21 Thread dan sinclair
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I wonder though if one can write apps with e's toolkits > that would allow for 'overriding' the toolkit's theme (with an > app-provided edje goup say), for a given toolkit widget? Also, is it > possible to build 'custom widgets' that can be given app-specific > the

Re: [E-devel] E and gui-toolkits.

2007-03-21 Thread dan sinclair
On 21-Mar-07, at 7:10 PM, Simon TRENY wrote: > In Etk, as in Ewl I think, you can change the theme of a specific > widget or change globally the theme used by all the widgets. > About custom widgets, it's indeed possible to build your own widget > directly in the app's code, the only difficulty he

Re: [E-devel] WWW!

2007-04-25 Thread dan sinclair
On 25-Apr-07, at 3:05 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: > Ok.. > As you may noticed, I've putted some content. I need your opinion > on it > - is it nice, are the images nice - are they too big or too small > or are > they nice at all. I think their a bit on the big side. A few images are fine but I

Re: [E-devel] WWW!

2007-04-26 Thread dan sinclair
Luchezar Petkov wrote: > dan sinclair wrote: >> >> On 25-Apr-07, at 3:05 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: >>> 1) Rewrite/update the user guide on get-e.org and move it in the >>> official site as user documentation. It will cover ONLY e17 itself and >>>

Re: [E-devel] edje icons, efreet

2007-06-04 Thread dan sinclair
Jochen Schroeder wrote: > Hi all, > > I cannot get edje icons to display in my menu, although they display > fine in Ibar and on the borders. I reported that a while ago, but the > problem is still there, both for the debian packages from edevelop and > compiled cvs. > I also noticed I have to spe

Re: [E-devel] Ewl+DirectFB

2007-06-22 Thread dan sinclair
It can't run on evas directly as it needs to know how to receive mouse and key events. But, the Ewl engines are setup with dependencies. So, if you take a look at evas_fb at the top you'll see an ewl_engine_dependencies function that declares "evas" as it's parent. It then just implements the e

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