Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-03-17 Thread Olivier Cassart
dt > Data: 01/03/18 07:09 (GMT+01:00) > A: Olivier Cassart > Cc: eurodisc@ira.uni-karlsruhe.de, "Patrick van der Valk (BULA)" < > patrick.vanderv...@beachultimate.org> > Oggetto: Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors > > Thanks for the information Od

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-28 Thread Terri Brandt
2018 at 12:42, Simon Hill >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I watched some of the games at WU24 in Perth and my impression was >>>>> that the GAs provided helpful support in some of the more difficult >>>>> situations. One of the games

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-27 Thread Olivier Cassart
>>>> watch some of those games in Perth? What did you think of the impact of >>>> GAs in those games? Mostly I saw no impact (which is the ideal that the >>>> GAs are hoping for). And in a few cases I saw a very positive impact. >>>> >>

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-27 Thread Family account
Hi All, I don't usually contribute to this list, and don't really have an intention to remain consistently involved in this discussion, but I would like to point out that some of the expectations expressed on this list seem unrealistic to me: It has been established over the last couple o

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-27 Thread Andrea Furlan
Dear European Ultimate Community, Thank you for all the contributions to the discussion about the role of Game Advisors, especially regarding GAs in Europe. Before entering into the EUF position, and how the EUF tackles the challenge of player infractions that are not quickly resolved through

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-27 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Hello, I have yet to see anyone answer these two simple questions: 1) What wasn't possible before GAs were added to the appendix? 2) Why are these things so critical, that its necessary to cause this confusion? -- Again its one thing to have people do score/time-keeping, bringing discs into pla

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-26 Thread Terri Brandt
e clearly all >>>> care. Please stay civil. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Having said this, the essence of Mirko’s comment is correct. Some >>>> people are not in Facebook and if the discussion started here, we not also >>>> co

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-26 Thread Simon Hill
ws from the EUF on the topic as >>> well as my initial question: what problem are you trying to solve in >>> Europe? This is clearly not North America and the EUF championships show, >>> IMHO, that GA’s are not (yet) needed in Europe. I think player education is >>> more ef

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-26 Thread Dominick
Hello, Apologies if I'm repeating someone else's comments, I only get the daily digest of the mailing list so may be behind. I have also taken a few days to write this in an attempt to explain myself clearly. I am an ultimate player and game adviser, having attended WU23 2015 and WUGC 2016. I w

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-26 Thread Nick Bond
it is tough dealing with multiple communication platforms, >> but that is a sign of the times. I would be grateful if you (or others from >> the WFDF) could also continue the conversation here. >> >> >> >> TIA >> >> >> >> Patrick &g

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-26 Thread Simon Hill
f you (or others from > the WFDF) could also continue the conversation here. > > > > TIA > > > > Patrick > > > > *From:* EuroDisc [mailto:eurodisc-boun...@ira.uni-karlsruhe.de] *On > Behalf Of *Robert Jablko > *Sent:* Monday, February 26, 2018 10:38 A

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-26 Thread Patrick van der Valk (BULA)
WFDF) could also continue the conversation here. TIA Patrick From: EuroDisc [mailto:eurodisc-boun...@ira.uni-karlsruhe.de] On Behalf Of Robert Jablko Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 10:38 AM To: eurodisc@ira.uni-karlsruhe.de Subject: Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors It seems

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-26 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
> On 26 Feb 2018, at 11:38, Robert Jablko wrote: > > It seems there are a lot of emotions concerning the advisor topic, and that > should be discussed, here or somewhere else, but I strongy feel that neither > Liam or anybody else in ultimate deserves any kind of hostility. +1 After some di

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-26 Thread Robert Jablko
It seems there are a lot of emotions concerning the advisor topic, and that should be discussed, here or somewhere else, but I strongy feel that neither Liam or anybody else in ultimate deserves any kind of hostility. Cheers, Robse -- Former chair of Rules a

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-26 Thread Mirko Macke
are you deaf? can't you read? The dsicussion needs to take place on the email group. This one. I think I made this clear. I am not gonna join any discussion on FB. Why? I made this clar as well. Keep the spirit! Mirko, YeaHaw! > Hi Mirko, > > My personal oppinion is actually an email list an

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-26 Thread Liam Kelly
Hi Mirko, My personal oppinion is actually an email list and a Facebook group are both terrible places for a discussion. But thats just my opinion. I'm not hosting or directing any type of discussion - I'm just happy and encouraging of one taking place and when I can I'll personally get involved w

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-26 Thread Mirko Macke
hello, I couldn't care lees how nice a message is. People were invited and - tbh - asked to continue the discussion on the actual email group. FB is the LAST tool to discuss anything meaningless. But instead you went there. The place of meaninglesness. Greetings from Berlin, Mirko, YeaHaw!

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-26 Thread Liam Kelly
Hey Patrick, Ruben has offered to discuss things on the ED Facebook group. He wrote a nice messages there :) I'm afraid that my time is extreamly limited at the moment due to work and life commitments. Also Ruben knows more about the topic so he's a good person to speak for/to. I'll reply as oft

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-25 Thread oliver browne
Hi Patrick, The conversation seems to have moved to the Ultimate-Players-in-Europe FB group, where the lead of the WFDF Rules committee, and the outgoing SotG chair have made themselves available for questions. Hope to see you & Sofia on the beach (Costa Brava perhaps?), or in the UPE FB group :)

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-25 Thread Patrick van der Valk (BULA)
@ira.uni-karlsruhe.de; oliver browne Subject: Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors Hi Olivier Cassart, ED, and anyone else interested in this topic. Good to see the debate is alive and well. Something I would fully encourage, but perhaps not in this setting. I see a great deal of

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-22 Thread Olivier Cassart
2018) * > > *[image: EBUCC-Multicolor-500px]* > > > > > > > > *From:* EuroDisc [mailto:eurodisc-boun...@ira.uni-karlsruhe.de] *On > Behalf Of *Olivier Cassart > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 21, 2018 10:32 AM > *To:* oliver browne > *Cc:* eurodisc@ira.uni-karlsru

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-22 Thread Olivier Cassart
Hi Liam, To reply to your question, the fact that you are member of the Game Advisor Committee of the WFDF, and a WFDF advisor, is the more relevant for me. You, and the WFDF have the right to publish on the Eurodisc mailing-list, or on the Ultimate Players in Europe FB page, like everybody, so t

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-21 Thread Liam Kelly
Hi Olivier Cassart, ED, and anyone else interested in this topic. Good to see the debate is alive and well. Something I would fully encourage, but perhaps not in this setting. I see a great deal of misconception in your comments, which is something I look forward to talking about. Perhaps a Redd

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-21 Thread Patrick van der Valk (BULA)
? Respectfully Patrick From: Liam Kelly [mailto:l...@liam-kelly.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 12:26 PM To: Patrick van der Valk (BULA) Cc: Olivier Cassart ; eurodisc@ira.uni-karlsruhe.de; oliver browne Subject: Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors Hi Olivier Cassart, ED, and

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-21 Thread Patrick van der Valk (BULA)
Oct, 2018) [EBUCC-Multicolor-500px] From: EuroDisc [mailto:eurodisc-boun...@ira.uni-karlsruhe.de] On Behalf Of Olivier Cassart Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 10:32 AM To: oliver browne Cc: eurodisc@ira.uni-karlsruhe.de; Liam Kelly Subject: Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game A

Re: [ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-21 Thread Olivier Cassart
Hi European Ultimate players and especially all the TD's in Europe, All the tournaments that you organised (high level or not) were without advisors, . I hope that you won't be the TD's who will open the door for advisors in private tournaments in Europe. I hope that you will refuse, like the Win

[ED] Tournament Partnership with Game Advisors

2018-02-19 Thread oliver browne
Hi Euro Disc, and specifically TDs / TOCs of competitive European tournaments, WFDF is looking to put on at least one game advisor training weekend in 2018. For this we need a relatively competitive tournament to work in partnership with and are looking for suitable TDs / TOCs to contact us with