RE: Docking Procedures

[Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/24/2001 4:55:17 AM Subject: Docking Procedures In a message dated 2/23/2001 9:59:45 PM Alaskan Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anyone else a tad bit tickled over the whole unmanned thing from

Re: Moral Issues

[Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/24/2001 5:06:59 AM Subject: Re: Moral Issues I ask you: considering the upcoming global energy crises, and likely oil shortfalls in the 2010s, and 2020s, what would happen to the Antarctic Non-Development

Re: Moral Issues

[Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/25/2001 9:01:10 PM Subject: Re: Moral Issues Here's the big, ugly secret of Lebensraum: the Germans were right. Bigger, stronger, and hungrier has always justified expansion. That's called evolution. In

Re: Europa submersible hypothetical

[Original Message] From: Bruce Moomaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Icepick Europa Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/26/2001 9:26:01 AM Subject: Re: Europa submersible hypothetical Well, it would probaly be pretty stinky -- although one thing made painfully clear at the Ames "Europa Focus

RE: Europa submersible hypothetical

[Original Message] From: Daniel R. Zeigler, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/26/2001 9:32:32 AM Subject: RE: Europa submersible hypothetical And on an unrelated note, speculation is that the ocean is extremely heavy in salts and sulfuric acid, right? So what would

RE: Sulfur elsewhere in the Jovian system

[Original Message] From: Bruce Moomaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Icepick Europa Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/27/2001 3:25:00 PM Subject: Sulfur elsewhere in the Jovian system What I wonder about -- and have never seen anything written about -- is whether the reddish color of

New NEAR data

http://near.jhuapl.edu/ February 27, 2001/B -- When NASA's Near Earth Asteroid Rendezvous (NEAR) spacecraft left for asteroid 433 Eros five years ago, scientists weren't certain what they would find when the probe arrived. Was Eros a 30-km fragment from a planet that broke apart billions of

RE: Why Go to Space?

[Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/28/2001 3:22:37 PM Subject: Why Go to Space? However, I've got to play Devil's Advocate here, since it will come up, sooner or later, in real terms. How can a company, which makes tours to space, put tourists in

Re: Why Go to Space?

http://www.spacefuture.com/archive/general_public_space_travel_and_tourism.s html ... and all that it implies. --- chooser-of-tactics --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so

Re: Mars News

I don't think the main point for NASA on Mars is to search for life. Robert - Original Message - From: Gary McMurtry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Mars News Geez, can I disagree here? Don't get me wrong, like many, I

Re: Humans on Europa: A Plan for Colonies on the Icy Moon

Is there, or should there be, any affiliation of icepick with ASI? - Original Message - From: Larry Klaes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Icepick (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: BioAstro (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; META (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:24 PM Subject:

Failure IS an option

In an ironic twist in the Mars Polar Lander story, the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA) thinks it has found the MPL intact, upright and standing right where NASA sent it. http://www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-01b.html Actual press release: http://164.214.2.59/general/26mar01.html ==

Re: Failure IS an option

] To: Icepick Europa Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Failure IS an option -Original Message- From: Robert Crawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, June 08, 2001 3:16 PM Subject: Failure IS an option

Re: Giant Plant Species Found on Mars? True or some kind of hoax?

them calculating the mass of the trees versus the cost of delivery. Think there's a market for Martian paper? But I'm just entertaining the concept. We'll have to wait and see. Robert Crawley - Original Message - From: gerts mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday

Re: I besmeared the French (sort of)

(snip) Bears attack us when we get between them and something they want, be it our garbage, ourpicnic baskets or their cubs. (/snip) Now I've heard this a couple times that once bears get the taste of human blood, they get the notion that we taste good and are very suitable for

Re: Buran back in business?

The idea appears to use the funding they get from all these rich US types who want to go to space, selling seats to the highest bidder. They've also had 17 launches for various satelites in the past year for about $100k each. Not much, but it appears to be a start. - R. Crawley - Original

Re: Europa's ice thickness

Just wondering if ice would become more dense at said meotor impact site, as opposed to a "fresh" one? And out of curiousity, what is the microgravity on the ISS in relation to Europa? Couldit beworth an experimentto make ice with the same composistions as expected on Europa in low earth

RE: BBC E-mail: New 'moon' found around Earth

Title: Message Thats not what I read at Space Daily. J002E3 is supposed to have a 50 day orbit around Earth, and Cruithne has a horseshoe orbit around Earth due to the Moon. Robert Crawley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf

RE: Survival of the Flattest

food supply and eventually becomes unable to sustain itself, but not due to a lack of food. Rather, it dies of alcohol poisoning its own waste. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: So what should the first words on Europa be?

Someone crank up the thermostat. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of LARRY KLAES Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:02 PM To: europa Subject: So what

RE: So what should the first words on Europa be?

I suppose that would be a good name for the first craft to travel to Europa. The Titanic II. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Sheff Sent

RE: Wild Concept #1

I presume all these rad hardened chips they're coming out with will be useful for this project? If not for the project use, then a list of the substitute parts that would actually be used in the real mission with appropriate funding. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming

RE: Working Model

of sorts, unless I can convince my boss to give us a freebee. As long as it was well advertised, and succeeded, I think that would be enough incentive. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Hot Nose

I like Proteus. I think Ice Pick was supposed to be for the one that actually went to Europa. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gail Leatherwood

RE: Working Model

Yes, that is why I would like to do the prints for all the parts. And on the assembly page, the first page, is usually where you have your bill of materials. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Working Model

. But it wasnt through ice, and it wasnt radio controlled. Sure would like to try this out in Antarctica later. I hear they have lots of ice several miles thick. And all kinds of scientific research is conducted there year round. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449

RE: Working Model

Nothing is wrong with it. But I dont think we are proposing making this thing fully operational on Europa just yet However, we could simply add roman numerals to the end as we upgrade the design. And say IcePIC VIII might be the guy that actually makes it to Europa. Robert Crawley

RE: No power sources available

I was trying to come up with a self-renewable chemical energy source. But I'm a tad bit of my league on that one. I was even thinking along the lines of using microbes to help the process. But littering Europa with dead microbes probably isn't acceptable. Robert Crawley Elite Precision

RE: No power sources available

shaft. Ah, deposit copper oxide down shaft just in case. Then figure out how to get down. Ice skates with brakes. I think we have a plan. Good idea. Wish I'd thought of it. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: No power sources available

I would expect that to be like pecking at the surface, and the more efficient the projectile, the heavier it would have to be. Then it has to get out of the way. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: No power sources available

enough of an atmosphere to make a parachute of any use. Well, there probably would be after the first couple grenades. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-europa;klx.com]On Behalf Of Christlieb

RE: No power sources available

copper oxide. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-europa;klx.com]On Behalf Of Robert J. Bradbury Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 5:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: No power sources available

RE: An Observation

The nifty thing about CAD is you can assemble this thing in 3D, spin it around, play with it, then put it in a mock up environment, and show it graphically rendered moving through the ice. Cardboard can't do that. Ever play with Pro E? Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming

RE: An Observation

That's what engineers are for. =) Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-europa;klx.com]On Behalf Of Joe Latrell Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:48 AM To: Europa IcePIC mailing list Subject

RE: No power sources available

, etc. The burning metal welds parts together, burns holes through plate, and distorts structural components. However, the area of destruction is quite small, so these grenades are not very widely used. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original

RE: Test beds of ice

That could be really cool. Bunch of ice sculptures here and there, and this one big cylindrical chunk of ice with the cryobot happily chewing its way down the inside. I bet there's somewhere you could order a big block of ice, or get it from the same people who make their sculptures. Robert

RE: Bruce Moomaw, wet blanket

A hot-water-heater heating element is extremely attainable. But can very likely be improved upon. Needs to have someway to keep corrosion off the copper. Salty water is great for turning orange copper green. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823

RE: PROJECT REFOCUSING

probably be had in some form or another off the shelf. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL

RE: Project Name

a real major change, like use a different casing or get a hold of a nuclear battery, we go to IcePIC II rev0. Or at least thats the general idea. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Data Collection

Robert Crawley 18313 Arbor Oaks Cir. New Caney, TX 77357-3550 Eddress:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Specializations: CAD/CAM drafting/programming

RE: Integration

Lets just say I can count how many times Ive seen snow on one hand. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gail Leatherwood Sent: Wednesday, October 30

Another Design Idea

to be heavier than the force being exerted on the ice to keep it from toppling over. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com

RE: Another Design Idea

, or build it myself, if it doesnt cost too much. I just came up with the idea half an hour ago, I need a little time to get stuff together. Ill keep everyone updated with what I find out. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message

RE: Inchworm drill for Mars

That's sort of what I had in mind. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-europa;klx.com]On Behalf Of Joe Latrell Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:14 AM To: Europa IcePIC mailing list Subject

RE: Inchworm drill for Mars

is also making an inchworm for repairing pipes for Manhattan, Little Italy. Interesting gizmo. It was adapted from their proposed Mars Inchworm. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-europa

RE: Reality Check Time

My first choice would be the CSA over NASA. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-europa;klx.com]On Behalf Of A.J. Mackenzie Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Reality Check Time

Chinese. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-europa;klx.com]On Behalf Of Reeve, Jack W. Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Reality Check Time CSA

RE: Last Chance To Send Your Name To Mars! And some day Europa!

made media by then. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of LARRY KLAES Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:31 PM To: europa Cc: BioAstro Subject: Fw: Last Chance

RE: Reality Check Time

under him, but I expect similar to our experiences with Jiang. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of LARRY KLAES Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:16 PM To: europa

RE: Last Chance To Send Your Name To Mars! And some day Europa!

MP3 should work. Have it sing “There’s a hole” as its boring its way down. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of LARRY KLAES Sent: Tuesday, November 12

RE: Answers

I think I have a management program from Microsoft that does time charts and such, but its at home and I dont remember what its called right now. I havent used it since 1995. Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message