Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

> So, based on averages and some EV assumptions, the gas station uses enough > electricy to charge somewhere between 1 and 2 EVs. That is an absurdly low number. The average American 20 mile/day is about $40 worth of electricity. A wild a$$ gues that the electric bill for a gas station is on

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

On Dec 4, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > > The average American 20 mile/day is about > $40 worth of electricity. Wha…? Assume 3 miles per kWh. Rounding up, that’s 7 kWh for your daily mileage. Most places are within shouting distance of $0.10 / kWh for

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

That would be interesting information. I'll take a stab at an answer, based on this EIA graph: http://www.eia.gov/beta/MER/index.cfm?tbl=T02.01#/?f=A=21 Overall, it shows that commercial uses about 80% the amount of residential (this is a visual interpretation). The figure, from EIA,

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

> EVs will be very good for the grid…but not because we’ll be shutting down > gas stations. Agreed, completely. But my point was that I have never seen anyone look at this point of view as to what electricity is saved by not moving so much gas around everywhere. Though small, It’s a data point

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

On Dec 4, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > > Though small, It’s a data point we need to include in > our quiver and come up with some numbers... I think focussing on the small fry might be distracting and counterproductive. If you really want to do that sort

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

Overall, the electricity use will remain the same or rise a small amount. Many studies have shown this. 1) Compact fluorescent and LED bulbs as well as the move toward other more efficient household appliances will tend to counteract the added load of EVs on the grid. 2) EV's tend to

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > How much ELECTRICITY does a gas station consume Nowhere near as much as you’re suggesting. As a general rule, Americans use about as much energy on personal transportation as for household electricity, with the

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

Well, it's not that bad. ICE cars are, perhaps, 20% efficient and EVs around 80%. So you would divide your number by 4. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Ben Goren via EV" To: "Robert Bruninga" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List"

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

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Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

On 4 Dec 2015 at 9:47, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Typical right wing ignorance. No politics please, just the facts. Thanks. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = =

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The link previously posted: http://www.electricautosport.com/2015/12/all-electric-porsche-mission-e-goes-into-production/ ... the Porsche Mission E has been confirmed for production and will arrive in the showrooms around 2020 ... states Porsche is 3 years away from giving it to their

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

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Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

I assume that most EVs in the UK would be charged overnight at home. Doesn't the UK have the same situation as the USA with there being a large surplus of power at night, and shortages only happen during the daytime? Widespread EV use is generally found to *help* the grid, by leveling power

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs ...

On 4 Dec 2015 at 12:22, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Also, I cannot imagine any scenario where a country would suddenly > switch to EVs. It will take *decades* to slowly replace the existing > ICEs. Maybe part of the spasm is engendered by this quotation from the piece: "The Tories´ Election

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

Great website Peri, lots of information. Rush Dougherty www.TucsonEV.com > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 8:09 AM > To: Robert Bruninga; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: