Great website Peri, lots of information. Rush Dougherty www.TucsonEV.com
> -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 8:09 AM > To: Robert Bruninga; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping > gas > too!) > > That would be interesting information. I'll take a stab at an answer, based > on > this EIA > graph: > > http://www.eia.gov/beta/MER/index.cfm?tbl=T02.01#/?f=A&start=200001 > > Overall, it shows that commercial uses about 80% the amount of residential > (this > is a visual > interpretation). The figure, from EIA, for residential is 11MwH per year. > So, > let's say the > average commercial location uses 8.8MwH per year. > > https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=97&t=3 > > Now for the EVs: If the average EV uses 300wH = .3KwH (including > accessories, > charging > losses, etc.) per mile and the average driver goes > 20000 miles per year, that's 6MwH of charging per year. > > So, based on averages and some EV assumptions, the gas station uses enough > electricy > to charge somewhere between 1 and 2 EVs. > > Peri > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" <[email protected]> > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Sent: 04-Dec-15 6:47:23 AM > Subject: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas > too!) > > >>: MP Amber Rudd sez the UK grid too weak for 34M EVs > >> BRITAIN'S electric car revolution could trigger blackouts by > >>overloading > >> our power network, senior Tories fear. > > > >Typical right wing ignorance. > > > >What happens when 50% of cars are EV's. Then only 50% of the gas > >stations remain operating. How much ELECTRICITY does a gas station > >consume???? > >My > >wild a$$ guess is maybe the same as what it takes to charge 50 EV's. > >Now > >add up all the ELECTRIC savings by closing all those gas stations, and > >turning off half the gasoline pipelines, and half of the gasoline > >distribution system, and turning off HALF of all the electricity > >consumed pumping gas ouit of the ground, etc, and I bet it's a WASH! > > > >Tonight I'm going to drop by my neighborhood gas station and see if the > >owner will tell me his electric bill and even better, if he will tell > >me how many cars he serves. I DOUBT he will tell me anything about the > >number of cars and the amount of gas since he is in EXTREME competition > >with the statinon across the road, but maybe he will reveal the > >electric bill. > > > >But we need this number. GO get your local number and lets compare > >notes. > > > >Bob > >----------------------------- > >A Cabinet row has broken out over the plug-in motors. > > > >Eco-loving ministers at the Environment and Transport departments say > >greener roads with millions of the electric vehicles is vital for clean > >air. > > > >But the Department of Energy and Climate Change fear we don't have > >enough power for them. > >_______________________________________________ > >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > >Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag > >racing at NEDRA > >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7227 / Virus Database: 4477/11090 - Release Date: 11/29/15 _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
