Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EV diy Charge Controller - with Display!

2016-12-22 Thread Cruisin via EV
These units are not UL approved and cannot be installed in any bay area where the code requires it. There have been a couple of fires caused by the charging station which will not be covered by insurance since no building permit was obtained. Be warned. -- View this message in context:

Re: [EVDL] EV Start Up

2016-12-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Actually, that reminds me: I read somewhere that the dc/dc is off when the car is off and instead it uses the small solar panel on the roof to try to keep the 12v battery charged. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Cor van de Water via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle

Re: [EVDL] EV Start Up

2016-12-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Peri, I have checked my (2011) Leaf with LeafSpy when in Acc mode and it does not charge the aux battery, I saw the aux battery voltage declining (and a current out of the battery). As soon as the car is started *or* the car is charging, then the aux battery is being maintained by the DC/DC

Re: [EVDL] EV Start Up

2016-12-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EV Start Up

2016-12-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Ok, I can answer some of the questions with respect to a Leaf. 1. Acc only: You press the start button without holding down the brake pedal. 2. Acc charging: yes, heating I don't think so. (However there is a way to do it remotely through their carwings system, never tried it.) 3.

Re: [EVDL] EV Start Up

2016-12-22 Thread ROBERT via EV
Thanks, you answered all the question very clearly. I still need some clarification on #7. Most industrial monitoring and alarm systems prioritize faults. A warning is a malfunction that does not stop the process. A fault will stop some action. Most ICE cars have a Engine Check Light.

Re: [EVDL] EV Start Up

2016-12-22 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Thu Dec 22 20:23:00 PST 2016 bhensle...@msn.com said: >Yes, each vehicle is different. Tell me the differences. I can only tell you how MY conversion works. 1) Yes, it has an ACC position. (normal car key ignition switch). 2) Heater yes, don't have AC. (Heater is 2KW off main pack) 3) Not

Re: [EVDL] EV Start Up

2016-12-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Robert, (1+2) All factory EVs and conversions that I have seen have an ACC key position. This position typically does the same as in an ICE: it does not power up the drivetrain, it only enables some 12V loads such as radio, lights and cig lighter to name a few, but the aux battery is not charged

Re: [EVDL] EV Start Up

2016-12-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Your questions are clear but your context is not. Are you asking - what mass produced EVs do in general? - what a specific EV does? - what the generally assumed best practices are? - what is physically required? Peri -- Original Message -- From: "ROBERT via EV" To:

[EVDL] EV Start Up

2016-12-22 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
Specifically, WHICH EV. A conversion - would depend on how the conversion was built. Each OEM vehicle is slightly different. On Thu Dec 22 17:14:33 PST 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >I ask the question in a previous post "does anyone know the start up sequence >for an EV". As I have seen in past

[EVDL] EV Start Up

2016-12-22 Thread ROBERT via EV
I ask the question in a previous post "does anyone know the start up sequence for an EV". As I have seen in past posting the subject was very quickly changed to another subject. In this case, a heater burn up issue for the Think City Heater. Please do not do this again. Please, respect the

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Just be clear, I'm glad we have (had?) the subsidy. I was only making a point that the subsidy is real. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Willie via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: Sent: 22-Dec-16 3:55:10 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL]

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Willie via EV
On 12/22/2016 05:37 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Peri, Agreed, only it is not going to Tesla/Nissan but to their customers. The manufacturers are not reaping direct benefits other than that their prices are artificially lowered for those customers who qualify for (part of) the tax

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
>> >http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-2017- 4 >th-gen-is-the-smartest-42ED-EV-yet-r-160km-ts-130kph-0-100kph-11-5s-td4 6 >84960.html >> EVLN: 2017 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph >> 0-100kph:11.5s >&

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread damon henry via EV
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Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread damon henry via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events contactors

2016-12-22 Thread Collin Kidder via EV
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Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events contactors

2016-12-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events contactors (THINKS)

2016-12-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Dec 2016 at 12:33, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > a 4kw plasma engulfs a... board full of surface mount high density > electronics ...the board is completely inaccessible and the entire 700 > lb battery box has to be removed from the car from below to get at it. Ouch. :-( To prevent

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EV diy Charge Controller - with Display!

2016-12-22 Thread David Kerzel via EV
cr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to reeva...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/reevadiy/01d25bff%241b2121f0%24516365d0%24%40com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the “smartest” 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Dec 2016 at 17:25, damon henry via EV wrote: > transmissions ... are not generally necessary on vehicles engineered > from the ground up as electric ... Absolutely. And the Smart was originally conceived in the mid-1990s as an EV. Satch's Nicholad Hayek proposed a tiny electric runabout

[EVDL] Fwd: EV diy Charge Controller - with Display!

2016-12-22 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
ups.com. > To post to this group, send email to reeva...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/reevadiy/01d25bff%241b2121f0%24516365d0%24%40com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >

Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events contactors (THINKS)

2016-12-22 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
> A software glitch in the THINK CITY made the mistake of leaving the 4 > kW heater possibly on, so that on the third step above, the 4kW is > trying to go through a 5W 47 ohm resistor and it blows up. This kills > the car, and all replacement b0oards are gone, most cannot be repaired >

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the “smartest” 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread damon henry via EV
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Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the “smartest” 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Bill Dube via EV
I suspect that the journalist has his facts wrong. He writes: "I was also surprised to note it had a standard heated steering wheel, which you might think would be an energy hog, as well as standard heated seats." This shows ignorance. Heated seats and steering wheel put the heat directly

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the “smartest” 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Bill Dube via EV
CVT transmission? In an EV? Seriously? No successful OEM electric vehicle has any sort of transmission, at least none that I am aware of. Touting a transmission on a prototype EV is a huge red flag. It shows that the design team is very inexperienced (or was overruled by management, which has

Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events contactors

2016-12-22 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 12/22/2016 10:29 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 22 Dec 2016 at 10:10, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: A software glitch in the THINK CITY made the mistake of leaving the 4 kW heater possibly on, so that on the third step above, the 4kW is trying to go through a 5W 47 ohm resistor

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20161220

2016-12-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Dec 2016 at 1:36, via EV wrote: > I get quite a few errors on the nabble links posted by Bruce.  I just > highlight the title and paste in Google and a good link comes up! Bruce's links work for me, but they go to the Nabble archive post, not to the original source. Once you get to

Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events contactors

2016-12-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Dec 2016 at 10:10, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > A software glitch in the THINK CITY made the mistake of leaving the 4 > kW heater possibly on, so that on the third step above, the 4kW is > trying to go through a 5W 47 ohm resistor and it blows up. This kills > the car, and all

Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events contactors

2016-12-22 Thread damon henry via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events contactors

2016-12-22 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Most EVs and Hybrids have at least three contactors. The sequence is: * Close One battery lead and check for leakage * Drop that relay and close the other lead with a series resistor and check for leaks * Bring the first one back in to power up still via the series resistor for a few

Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events

2016-12-22 Thread paul dove via EV
Which EV, there may be similarities but I don't imagine they are all identical except in the main functions. My EV has one main contractor so when it closes everything powers up at the same time. Some systems have a relay on the negative side that powers every thing but the inverter or

[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20161222

2016-12-22 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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