I think in certain situations, an EV could be a very good purchasing
decision -- just based on cost, nothing else. I was looking at the numbers
for leasing a leaf vs leasing a prius (which I am now doing), and the lease
cost is about the same (if anything, the Leaf is a little cheaper to
lease),
On 16 Oct 2014 at 8:54, Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
EVs are, in general, a poor purchasing decision anyway But
driving electric isn't about the economics or the convenience. For me
it's about the environment and where I choose to send my money.
This is a problem for EVs, mostly because
On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:49 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
As long as EVs are ...a poor purchasing decision ... the
only way we'll get significant numbers of ordinary folks to buy them is to
give them (the people, I mean) cash or other monetary incentives.
This is true
Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
I have two EVs and a PHEV so I'm well aware of the advantages of
starting out with a full vehicle every morning. But there are millions
of people who live in places where they can't plug their car in and I
bet some number of them are wishing they could get away from gas.
A few vehicle manufacturers did offer, and I think a few still do offer a car
or truck that runs on compressed natural gas. You can fill at a public station
or have a small cng compressor installed in your garage if you have natural gas
at your home and a minimum supply flow. Consumers with a
On 14 Oct 2014 at 17:06, David Nelson via EV wrote:
So much misinformation people have. Li-batteries already last more
than 2 years, they already charge in under 4 hours if the
infrastructure can handle it, and why do I need a 5 minute recharge
when my car is going to be parked for over 8
On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Peter Gabrielsson via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
As for cellphones the real limiter on how fast you can recharge tends to be
the connector, cables and power supply.
Cars, too. 10 kWh / minute is 600 kilowatts, a most impressive power transfer
rate. That's going
I can't see why I need a high rate of charge at home. If you are
economizing you never build for peak demand. However, many cars on the
grid charging slowly still requires some sort of compensatory, mitigating,
constructing effort.
This is not how batteries for cars will be charged at home.
The number of people buying the high end Tesla cars is and will be
exceedingly small and no concern for the grid operators. The number of
people who will buy a second probably much larger pack for their home (so
they can still charge after a number of cloudy days) will also be very
small. So
On 10/15/2014 03:04 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Michael Ross michael.e.r...@gmail.com
wrote:
I can't see why I need a high rate of charge at home.
Need? Obviously not. Want? Who wouldn't?
I don't need or want it. But if I lived in an apartment building where
I can't see why I need a high rate of charge at home.
I don't need or want it. But if I lived in an apartment building
where I couldn't plug my car it, being able to zap it full on the
way to or from work might be the deciding factor in whether I buy one or
not.
Every single day for the rest
www.ecnmag.com/news/2014/10/batteries-can-be-recharged-70-percent-just-2-minutes
Len Moskowitz
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So much misinformation people have. Li-batteries already last more
than 2 years, they already charge in under 4 hours if the
infrastructure can handle it, and why do I need a 5 minute recharge
when my car is going to be parked for over 8 hours while I sleep?
Don't get me wrong, this is a great
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