Re: [EVDL] EV school buses

2022-10-27 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
School buses are way more the $50,000. On 10/27/2022 12:57 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: ... $1 billion in grants to purchase about 2,500 clean school buses under a new federal program. ... Only about 1% of the nation's 480,000 school buses were electric as of last year ... That's $400,000 per bu

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

2022-11-25 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Excellent ideas Robert. On 11/25/2022 2:33 PM, Robert Johnston via EV wrote: Okay, I've been looking into/thinking about this for a bit, and I see several ways this could be handled. ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO

[EVDL] Tesla model 3 battery pack info

2023-06-29 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I am looking for information on recent Tesla model 3 battery packs. I haven't been able to find much definitive data on the net. Up until the end of 2021, the Model 3 modules all had the same form factor regardless of capacity. They are just too long to fit into most conversions (70.5 or 76 in

Re: [EVDL] EV Grin doubled, next level PV Aptera grins.

2023-07-08 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I was excited about the Aptera until I saw the hub motors. I'll pass until I see some real world reliability demonstrated. On 7/7/2023 3:30 AM, Ryan Fulcher via EV wrote: I'm looking forward to being finally proven wrong about the practicality of PV on your EV when the Aptera starts being deli

Re: [EVDL] EV Grin doubled, next level PV Aptera grins.

2023-07-09 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
17:46 Alan Arrison via EV wrote: I was excited about the Aptera until I saw the hub motors. I'll pass until I see some real world reliability demonstrated. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cg

Re: [EVDL] Important Aptera news.

2023-07-20 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
It's national news. Looks like they don't put it up for viewing until 24hrs after broadcast. On 7/20/2023 8:53 PM, Ryan Fulcher via EV wrote: I would love to see that clip... But i have been unable to locate any such video. If you find a link to it online, or know which NBC station ran it, th

Re: [EVDL] EV Distance Record Smashed

2023-09-15 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
100 miles on 1kWh? What are you smoking? I'm pretty sure even an electric bicycle can't do that. Al On 9/14/2023 7:20 PM, David Heacock via EV wrote: Yes I know this is a very controlled situation and is not a vehicle that would be purchased by the public but taking a look at the numbers and

Re: [EVDL] Aptera ditches in-wheel motors.....

2024-07-25 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
We knew that was coming. Wouldn't that require a massive redesign? It's a little late for that. Al On 7/25/2024 4:14 AM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: Yet another car manufacturer who intended to use in-wheel motors but ended up with inboard. "Motor change: Aptera has integrated Vitesco Tec

[EVDL] Fwd: Pre-charge for charger?

2024-08-14 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I am going to have a Manzanita PFC40 charger behind the passenger seat in my S-10 pickup. I want pack voltage connected only when charging. I will use a contactor for that. I am assuming I will need a pre-charge resistor, relay and fuse to limit inrush current. A 200 ohm resistor woul

[EVDL] Tesla contactors Re: pre-charge

2024-08-15 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I was wondering if most EV's keep chargers connected to pack full time. I want mine disconnected unless charging so that there is no pack voltage outside the battery box (charger is in the cab). I have the DC fast charge contactors from a Tesla Model 3. They seem to be custom made by Gigavac.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hanergy.cn Solar-EV by Oct 2015

2015-02-03 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Good luck with that. Al On 2/3/2015 1:24 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/905499.shtml Renewable giant says will unveil solar vehicles by Oct By Chu Daye 2015-2-2 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Uber CEO sez> will replace all of its drivers with Auton-EVs

2015-02-27 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
The constant stream of news releases regarding self driving cars is pretty annoying. I'm sorry, I don't see it happening any time soon. It's just the latest tech buzzword and a way to make autos even more complicated and expensive. Talk about opening yourself up to huge liabilities I can see

Re: [EVDL] New Tesla Owner

2015-03-23 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Congrats Mike! Is it a P85? Care to share what price you paid? (roughly) Al On 3/23/2015 9:56 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: I finally jumped in with both feet and bought a used demonstration Tesla Model S. It is a 2014 model that was built just before the dual motor and self driving featu

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Very well put Chris. I hope we don't beat this to death as it is somewhat OT. I'll go out on a limb - you will not see full blown use of self driving vehicles any time soon. 10 years maybe, probably more like 25. You heard it here, LOL Al ​Lee's quite right of course. Everyone is speculating

Re: [EVDL] How to open a 2013 leaf battery pack.

2015-04-18 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Jay, thanks for all the valuable information on procuring and opening a Leaf battery pack. Look forward to you getting it installed in your S-10. Who knew there were so many wrecked Leafs out there? Al ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV 4the masses

2015-05-17 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Good luck with that... On 5/17/2015 3:00 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: http://www.hybridcars.com/open-source-project-hopes-to-offer-23000-ev-with-186-miles-range/ Open Source Project Hopes To Offer $23,000 EV With 186 Miles Range by Sarah Shelton May 14, 2015 _

Re: [EVDL] $10k bounty on Tesla-S hacks entices tinkerers, aggravates Tesla

2015-05-20 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I am surprised that auto makers haven't locked down their systems with encryption. If they haven't yet they probably will if for no other reason than liability issues. Al On 5/20/2015 4:50 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: Every since the first cars rolled out of factories, owners have been modifyi

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GenZe e-bicycle has the same batteries as a Tesla-S EV

2015-05-22 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I thought Tesla used Panasonic batteries. On 5/22/2015 5:38 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: GenZe's e-bike models use the same Samsung batteries as the Tesla Model S to help supplement your pedaling. The battery is actually removable, so you can take it out of the bike and charge it at work with a c

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 32, Issue 18

2015-06-11 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
95 40ah cells is only 12kWh. Range will be minimal. I doubt the 40ah cells will last very long since you will be pulling at minimum 1C continuous. Al On 6/11/2015 3:00 PM, David Miller via EV wrote: Everyone, One of our Rav4EV News Group guys converted his Rav4 to Lithium for ~$7.5 total.

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 32, Issue 18

2015-06-12 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
nuous. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:59 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: 95 40ah cells is only 12kWh. Range will be minimal. I doubt the 40ah cells will last very long since you will be pulling at minimum 1C continuous. Al ___ UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: L3 EVSE buffer-pack between grid for quicker than quick charging

2016-01-25 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Is this the most ridiculous statement ever? On 1/25/2016 3:10 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: LAUSANNE, Switzerland, Jan. 20 (UPI) -- Engineers say the power grid is holding back the development of the electric car. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/he

Re: [EVDL] Nissan changing telematics hardware and carrier

2016-02-29 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
You got that right! Automakers should have never been allowed to put what amounts to a video game on your dashboard. Now they're trying to fix the distraction caused by the dashboard with self braking cars. Al On 2/29/2016 4:19 PM, fotajoye via EV wrote: I can easily live without this featur

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

2016-03-07 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
If you install a 14-50 outlet, you better make sure you include a neutral conductor. (even though most EVSE don't require it) On 3/7/2016 5:44 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks for the clarification - I too consider installing a NEMA 14 in my garage. For the 2nd clothes dryer,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Capacitors Replace Li-ion> able to drive an EV 1, 000 miles

2016-04-02 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Yes, trolling, not a chance this will see the light of day. On 4/2/2016 3:15 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: % ?Trolling4$ or ... ? % http://www.prweb.com/releases/2016/03/prweb13278422.htm Capacitor Sciences Develops Materials to Turn Capacitors into High Density Energy Storage Cells Able to Repl

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: A cheaper 500km/310m Electric VW family car w/ a 15min charge time

2016-05-10 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Why do they publish this nonsense. On 5/10/2016 4:45 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/vw-ev-could-be-cheaper-equivalent-golf VW EV could be 'cheaper than equivalent Golf' 3 May 2016 [image http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gal

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Nikola Motor Announces 2000HP Semi-trailer Truck he-Tractor

2016-05-14 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Good luck with that... On 5/14/2016 4:54 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: % Leveraging off Tesla's name, yet it isn't an Electric that can plug in. Its a 2000hp old school hybrid with regen for safer-down-hill-braking and fuel saving$ % http://www.truckinginfo.com/news/story/2016/05/nikola-motor-tea

Re: [EVDL] Level 1 charging solar

2016-06-16 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
What happens when clouds come by and randomly block the sun? Do the inverters start up and shut down gracefully? What does the car do when it sees the AC power going on and off? Sounds like a recipe for damaged electronics. Al On 6/16/2016 3:27 PM, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote: Friends, I

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 400kW Wireless-EVSE ornl.gov goal> 97%-efficiency 6"-gap

2018-10-31 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
They got one thing right... On 10/30/2018 11:49 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: It is the stuff of sci-fi novels ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at N

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $20/100mi sparkcharge> L3 recharges @1mi/min (v)

2018-10-31 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Wonderful, waste more energy delivering energy to an EV. I suppose it would be fine if you were at 0% with no chargers around. On 10/30/2018 11:31 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffkart/2018/10/24/charging-an-electric-vehicle-with-sparkcharge-as-easy-as-ordering-a-p

Re: [EVDL] AM radios dropped from plugins (RFI, EMI, +)> (go digital)

2018-11-09 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Hmm, that brings up a question. Do automobiles (electric or otherwise) have to pass any FCC regulations regarding RF emissions? Al On 11/9/2018 8:29 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Roger Stockton via EV wrote: Hmm, maybe cost savings of putting a grounded shield around the motor and controller.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-08 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Finally someone sets it straight regarding solar panels on car roofs. On 12/8/2018 9:05 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://qz.com/1482588/why-teslas-dont-and-cant-have-solar-roofs/ Why Teslas don’t—and can’t—have solar roofs December 3, 2018 Kabir Chibber [images https://cms.qz.com/wp-conten

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $50k flying EVs over San_Francisco-CA next year

2018-12-28 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Does anyone believe this nonsense? Al On 12/28/2018 6:26 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.timesofisrael.com/husband-and-wife-duo-sets-sights-on-flying-cars-over-san-francisco-next-year/ Husband-and-wife duo sets sights on flying cars over San Francisco next year 25 December 2018 Federic

Re: [EVDL] EVlawsuit: No car could have withstood this 116mph crash> NTSB shutdown

2019-01-10 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Anti-EV hogwash anyone? On 1/10/2019 1:50 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: % ? Maybe rich parents should have spent time teaching their children right-from-wrong-behavior> obey speed limits ? % https://boingboing.net/2019/01/09/tesla-sued-for-death-of-18-yea.html Tesla sued for death of 18-year-old

Re: [EVDL] Watt-if: Remote L3 recharging service (Can this be provided?)

2019-01-15 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
How damn lazy can you get? On 1/15/2019 9:33 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: % The newswire item below is not about EVs. Its about an ice service that will come out in a service ice-pu-truck and refuel your non-EV. My point in posting this is what would it take to create a service like this for EVs

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Ford F-150 e-Truck promised

2019-01-22 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
It's not. Any full size pickup with decent range and power would cost a fortune. Come to think of it, ICE trucks already cost a fortune. :-/ On 1/22/2019 9:21 AM, Christopher Darilek via EV wrote: Has anyone seen what capacity battery they plan to use? IMO this is the reason we haven't se

Re: [EVDL] EVfire: 2wheel EV.cn Suddenly Bursts Into Flames (v)

2019-02-14 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I'm sure there are many more of these "news" hack jobs. Bruce just posts one once in awhile to keep us informed about the anti-EV "news". Al On 2/13/2019 11:58 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://gaadiwaadi.com/shocking-electric-two-wheeler-burns-like-a-bomb-captured-in-video/ Electric Two-W

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Supercap, ultracap, Goldcap> take the plunge (v)

2019-02-22 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Could  Ultracapacitors Replace Batteries In Future Electric Vehicles? The answer is no, no matter how much hype there is. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV dr

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Rivian e-truck box system patents r:230-400mi

2019-03-16 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
The whole truck is a pipe dream. On 3/16/2019 7:16 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: 105KWh battery in the truck for 69,000 I don’t believe that story. Sounds like a pipe dream. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2019, at 11:04 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://electrek.co/2019/03/12/rivian-modul

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NY utility gives free solar hardware to EV buyers

2019-05-14 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Free you say? I bet it allows the utility to not only monitor your Solar/EV system, but control it too. Al On 5/14/2019 12:47 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2019/05/08/new-york-utility-giving-free-hardware-to-solar-and-ev-buyers/ New York utility gives free hardware to

Re: [EVDL] Possibly use as a Pack->AC inverter?

2019-06-19 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
How would you hold it at 60Hz? How would you hold the output voltage steady with varying loads? I wouldn't chance it. Use a proper device like a UPS. I use a 3KW split phase pure sine wave output UPS to run my whole house. It was made to run on 12 12V batteries, I see a lot of them made for 16

Re: [EVDL] Possibly use as a Pack->AC inverter?

2019-06-20 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
A lot of the larger UPS are kind of pricey, and you won't find many that will do split phase. I got a steal on Ebay for $500. I had to set up a switch to break my 320V pack in the middle, and a small DPST contactor to parallel the two half packs at 160V. That works out to 12 batteries at 13.3V

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (DC AC/heatpumps and waterheating)

2019-07-17 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Where are you getting 25 cents a watt panels? Must be some real junk. On 7/17/2019 2:28 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: Inefficent yes, but hooking up 2 wires is a lot easier than building one out of copper, plywood, glass and paint. With solar panels costing only 25 cents per watt (on a goo

Re: [EVDL] V2H

2019-07-27 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I had been wondering why something like this hadn't been done yet. However, it is by no means a done deal. They have a big problem to solve. They would have to work with all the automakers to have the vehicles allow access to the battery through the charge port and allow power to flow out of t

Re: [EVDL] V2H

2019-07-28 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
It seems odd Tesla would have that capability available and not mention it. It seems like it would add cost. I was thinking more about an off board inverter that would connect to the vehicle fast charge port. Al On 7/28/2019 11:45 AM, Ing. Marco Gaxiola wrote: It is not actually that big, l

Re: [EVDL] JDPower paid to poo-poo EV-sales> more paid4-koch-kool-aid

2019-08-02 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Who is claiming the survey was paid for? On 8/2/2019 4:03 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/motoring-news/buyers-resist-the-move-to-new-tech/news-story/f8d4de909774103baf6c1afaa779eb53 Buyers resist the move to new tech July 31, 2019 Toby Hagon

Re: [EVDL] Heater

2017-11-28 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Isn't a bug air cooled? It doesn't have a heater core. Do you mean a modern water cooled bug. In any case, I use a tank heater and pump to circulate hot antifreeze through the original heater core. The pro is you don't have to dig into the dash, the con is there is a bit of plumbing to do.

Re: [EVDL] Heat pump vs resistive Heater (OT, but somewhat EV related)

2017-11-28 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Heat can't magically be obtained from cold air. As the temperature drops, the pump must do a lot more work for an ever smaller amount of heat. Al On 11/28/2017 11:03 PM, Bill Dube via EV wrote: Thanks for the Wikipedia reference. Here is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_pump Fo

Re: [EVDL] Solar trailer calculation

2017-12-27 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I'll tell you, like many others have, again... it can't be done. On 12/27/2017 5:47 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Hi all, My math is good enough to figure out I get about my 30kw Leaf gets 4.5 miles per kw at 55mph more or less depending on wind.  What I'd like to know is what size solar

Re: [EVDL] suspicious of a bad calb cell?

2018-02-06 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
You are aware that 3.00V resting is considered dead right? Also, the 3C current rating is very optimistic. Drawing 216A for more than a few seconds is not good for life. Even drawing 1C (72A) on a continuous basis will lead to a short life. Since you are running a low voltage pack, I'm guessi

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Halbach near-monopole e-motor> Focused Magnetics

2018-02-10 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
What a bunch of baloney. If a motor is already 95% efficient, how do you double its efficiency? I'm sure the motor gurus on the list can shoot holes in this nonsense. There are reasons motors haven't changed much in 100 years. One, there isn't much room left for improvement, two, the laws of p

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: PNNL’s EV Battery: 7x Longer Lifespan, 2+* Longer Range

2018-04-08 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Sigh, more miracle batteries. :-/ On 4/8/2018 4:24 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.greenoptimistic.com/pnnl-ev-battery-lifespan-range-20180402/ PNNL’s New EV Battery: 7x Longer Lifespan, 2 to 3 Times Longer Range April 2, 2018 Janina Lazo-Cruz

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Sion Power’s Licerion Li-Battery for e-plane Aviation (v)

2018-04-08 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Double sigh, another miracle battery. :-/ On 4/8/2018 1:12 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://cleantechnica.com/2018/04/02/is-sion-powers-licerion-lithium-battery-what-the-electric-aviation-world-has-been-waiting-for/ Is Sion Power’s Licerion Lithium Battery What The Electric Aviation World H

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 3D Printed Hackrod& Siemens Fun AI, VR Electric Roadster (v)

2018-04-16 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Who is "we"? On 4/16/2018 4:08 PM, Bill Woodcock via EV wrote: On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:24 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: What's the problem with Siemens? The small problem is that their motors have lousy thermal efficiency, and even lousier thermal dissipation. Nonetheless, they’re

Re: [EVDL] Lead carbon batteries.

2018-05-08 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
If they worked, someone would be using them. Nuff said. There is no way they are twice as energy dense or give twice the cycles. Al On 5/8/2018 3:55 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: I have an eGo scooter and don't want to fuss with converting to lithium.  Are these batteries really twice as

Re: [EVDL] Sparrow alternate?

2018-05-13 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Notice it is listed under "Ride on Toys". Nuff said. Al On 5/13/2018 11:47 AM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: Anyone heard of this before? I have trouble believing that it's a real vehicle that's been developed in total secrecy, AND that's it's cheap (relatively). https://www.hammacher.com/Pro

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: magnax.com Axial flux e-motors.be> More Powerful& Smaller

2018-05-15 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Who wrote this drivel. There is nothing new or innovative listed. Some of the claims about cooling and efficiency sound suspect. Al On 5/15/2018 1:30 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: http://revolution-green.com/new-axial-flux-electric-motors-pack-ev-power-smaller-package/ New Axial Flux Electric

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Flywheels for L3 Charging EVs in 10 Minutes

2018-05-21 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Sigh, good luck with that. Can it be done? Probably. What would it cost? A fortune. Al In places where grid capacity is limited, flywheel batteries can be deployed to provide the powerful surge of electricity needed to recharge a car battery quickly. The current produced is strong enough to

Re: [EVDL] Hb404

2018-05-25 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Sounds like a disaster in the making. You never want a relay to be energized to disable the charger. But you already knew that. Al On 5/25/2018 9:38 AM, Steve Clunn via EV wrote: This is a great meter at a good price but I have found one glitch that people should know about when using this m

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph

2018-06-04 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Good luck with that. Not going to happen. Al Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size of the car allows for enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the desired reach. Not the

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-21 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
3 modules in parallel is only 180ah at best, probably more like 150ah. John, don't you have a Zilla 2K in the truck? To pull even 1000 amps from those cells would be over 5C, let alone 2000! Al On 6/20/2018 11:53 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: On Wed Jun 20 19:00:25 PDT 2018 ev@lists.evdl.o

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 4versions of Arcanum Batmobile> sliders4 desired EV power

2018-07-30 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
What a joke... Al On 7/30/2018 11:21 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: Meet the 5,221-hp, 303 miles per hour, all-electric Alieno Arcanum. It delivers the finest, brashest and most bizarre set of offers we have ever found in a press release. Alieno’s first vehicle, if these claims are to be considere

Re: [EVDL] Lithium Ion buddy pairing? (Was electriccarpartscompany.com?)

2018-08-06 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I guarantee that the inferior Chinese cells will change capacity as they are cycled and not by just a few percent. Running them without a BMS is a recipe for disaster. Damaged cells at best, a fire at worst. All the Chinese cells are junk, especially the CALBS. Al On 8/6/2018 7:48 PM, Da

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $50k 2020 Rivian Premium Pickup EV made in Normal-IL

2018-08-20 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Good luck, You'll need it. 500 million is a drop in the bucket. Al On 8/20/2018 1:17 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.wardsauto.com/alternative-propulsion/rivian-nearing-launch-premium-ev-pickup-suv Rivian Nearing Launch of Premium EV Pickup, SUV Aug 15, 2018 Joseph Szczesny [image h

Re: [EVDL] Roland Wiench

2018-08-20 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Roland always answered newbie questions that he had probably answered many times before. Rest in  peace Roland. Al On 8/20/2018 6:29 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: If youi've been on the EVDL for a while, you probably remember reading posts by Roland Wiench. He gave us a lot of them -

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 7.2k orders.eu4 $13.6k micro-mobility.com(Isetta) r:133mi (v)

2018-08-23 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Yeah right 8000/74=108wh per mile. maybe at 10mph. Motorcycles don't even do that good. Al The Microlino will offer two different lithium-ion battery sizes: an 8-kwh unit is good for 74 miles, and a 14.4-kwh version will cover 133 miles. The company says charging will take four hours. Eithe

Re: [EVDL] Roland Wiench

2018-08-23 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I wonder what will happen to his EV? It would be ashamed to just scrap it. Al On 8/23/2018 4:49 PM, Evan Tuer via EV wrote: That's sad news. I always got a kick out of reading about his one-of-kind EV and the engineering that he put into it. He seemed like a good guy, always willing to share

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 400kW (1080mph) EVSE new2 GM> (not new-tech 2others)

2018-09-06 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Like a lot of the "new technology" posts, a bunch of PR mumbo-jumbo. Each charger would require its own electrical substation. Efficiencies are already near theoretical limits. Notice the time frame is in the vapor-ware realm. And just what is a solid state transformer? Sheesh, Al On 9/6/20

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 500kw/670hp Audi PB18 E-Tron e-racer 0-60mph:2s

2018-09-23 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Is this another vapor-ware computer generated image? On 9/23/2018 5:26 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.udi Unveils Its Newest Electric Sports Car, the PB18 E-Tron 9/10/2018 Laura Burstein [images https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBN9vGr.img?h=352&w=624&m=6&q=60&

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: magnix.aero oil-cooled e-motor for Iron-Bird Cessna

2018-09-30 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
More techno-babble. Electric motors are already near their theoretical limits. I bet the power to weight number doesn't include the weight of the cooling system. Al On 9/30/2018 6:27 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.wired.com/story/magnix-electric-plane-motor/ A Better Motor Is the

Re: [EVDL] FW: 12v Inverter in Trunk of Volt

2018-10-01 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Are you sure the DC/DC converter in the car can supply the 80+ amps needed for 1KW? Al On 10/1/2018 10:14 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: Subject: 12v Inverter in Trunk of Volt I found that a 1 kW or larger 12v inverter to 60 Hz 120v easily fits in the left rear corner pocket in the Volt.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 45 li-ion battery-making gigfactories around the world

2018-10-09 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
This is nonsense. The Chinese CALB cells cost more than ever. (Yes, i realize they are talking about cells for production vehicles) They won't go down either. Al On 10/9/2018 11:02 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://stockhead.com.au/tech/battery-prices-are-plunging-and-that-could-drive-an-e

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: How solid state batteries are different> ($trolling?)

2018-10-10 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
The usual BS. On 10/10/2018 11:10 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://dividendpassiveincome.blogspot.com/2018/10/worlds-first-super-battery-prototype.html World's First Super Battery Prototype Successfully Developed- Electric Car Revolution Coming Up and Sunset Industry for Oil and Gas Companies

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: The physics of slapping solar panels on cars

2018-10-21 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
The numbers don't add up for solar panels on automobiles, never have, never will. This has been proven time and time again. There is no way it gets even 20 miles per kWh under anything but perfect conditions and slow speeds. And the energy from the panels again is under perfect conditions.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Offset Supercharging degradation w/ pack balancing

2015-08-04 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
We already went round and round with this "no self discharge, no BMS" fellow a few months ago. On 8/4/2015 5:08 PM, paul dove via EV wrote: Hey Mark, I know that seems like sounds reasonable to most people. However, a battery is chemical and while you can measure resistance with a meter a bat

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: After Leaf the lease, we're living the IL Tesla-S EV dream

2015-09-12 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I'm pretty sure a base model does not come with all wheel drive. On 9/12/2015 4:11 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: http://www.postindependent.com/opinion/18014132-113/letter-an-electric-dream Letter: An electric dream September 3, 2015 | My wife and I once thought that owning a Tesla was only a dr

[EVDL] Lithium batteries, media frenzy

2015-10-13 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Is it just me or is the media in a frenzy over those horrible lithium ion batteries. Batteries that are used in billions of devices, safely, day in and day out. The copy writers love to use the line "they can catch fire and explode." They conveniently never mention that it could be the device tha

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Renovo demos Coupe EV RWD prototype @Laguna_Seca-CA 0-60mph:3.4s

2015-10-15 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Sigh, why do companies insist on using unsubstantiated hype like "worlds first" and "worlds fastest"? An advanced prototype of “the first the all-electric American supercar” Uh hello?, ever heard of a Tesla Model S? Wouldn't that qualify as a supercar? With a 0-60 MPH time of less than 3.4 se

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Bosch Targets 263 Wh/kg Li-ion packs

2015-10-19 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Sigh, another battery of the future. Less weight, more kilowatt hours, less money... We've heard it all before. Al On 10/19/2015 6:26 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: [images http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/1-CR-21625-e.jpg Bosch is working on the battery of the future The goal for

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 1004km Brighsun Electric Bus range-test.au on 2015/10/31

2015-11-03 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
This is nonsense, 1000km is well over 600mi. This would require upwards of a 1000kWh battery. Notice there are no details in the article. Al On 11/3/2015 9:17 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: http://onestepoffthegrid.com.au/all-electric-bus-unveiled-in-melbourne-heading-to-sydney-on-one-charge/ All-

Re: [EVDL] Suitable Load?

2015-11-04 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I can pretty much guarantee you there is degradation in 4 years. A friend of mine just parted out his conversion and I bought his CALB 100Ah cells. They are 3 years old with only 8000 miles on them. He did not use a BMS, but they were top balanced when new. Charge cutoff voltage was kept conserv

Re: [EVDL] Sensors for safety, not making EVs noisy

2015-11-07 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Typical solutions where there is no problem. On 11/7/2015 3:11 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: 'EVs aren't as loud, so perhaps the sensors need to be tied to an alarm that could sound when it senses something -- like a child running in the street ... for people to accept that the car is safer' _

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Future EV-conversions on 48-volt automotive systems

2015-11-07 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Another solution where there is no problem...sigh On 11/7/2015 3:16 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: % Remember the 1990s Push for 42-Volt Electrical Systems? % http://www.assemblymag.com/articles/93092--volt-systems-will-help-reduce-wiring-costs 48-volt systems will help reduce wiring costs Novembe

Re: [EVDL] Watt-Hr Motorcycle Efficiency...

2015-11-12 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
50Wh per mile is way too optimistic. A Zero SR, which is a state of the art bike, lists a nominal battery capacity of 11.4kWh. Range on the highway at 55mph is listed as 98 miles. This gives 116Wh per mile. Al On 11/12/2015 1:59 PM, Ing. Marco Antonio Gaxiola via EV wrote: Considering th

Re: [EVDL] Extra ground wires on Nissan Leaf J1772 inlet & cable?

2015-11-14 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Jay, is the inlet lighted? Could it be ground returns for LED's? Al On 11/12/2015 9:34 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: I've taken the J1772 inlet & cable from my salvaged (2013) Nissan Leaf and am planning on connecting it up to the new charger for my S-10 pickup truck conversion. It has the st

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Cordless drill on wheels> e-dragster w/ the power of 200, 000 drills

2015-11-15 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Sigh, wait till it actually IS the worlds fastest EV then tell us. On 11/15/2015 4:23 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: A concept six years in the making, Top EV Racing is creating the world’s quickest electric race car, the car’s battery able to fast charge in as little as 15 minutes with the help of

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Brighsun ebus> 1018km on one charge, plans plants across OZ

2015-11-25 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
1004km is 624mi. 10:00pm Sat to say 11:30pm Sun is 25.5 hours. So the bus traveled at about 25mph. Totally unacceptable in a real world situation. According to Brighsun, the bus started its journey at 10pm Saturday November 14 and achieved the record distance just before midnight on the follo

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Brighsun ebus> 1018km on one charge, plans plants across OZ

2015-11-26 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
It's obviously a publicity stunt. Anyone can throw a ton of batteries in a bus and do it. Of course there are no technical specs or prices mentioned. On 11/26/2015 8:23 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 25 Nov 2015 at 21:46, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: So the bus traveled at about

Re: [EVDL] Electric Snowblower Conversion

2015-12-02 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I would like to convert a walk behind snow blower too. I think a ~3500 rpm PM "pancake" motor like an Etek would be best. The "Manta" motors on Ebay are listed as 10hp, which I think would be overkill. You could buy a whole new gas blower for the price of just that motor. There are some nice hea

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 3000km Bridgestone World Solar Challenge

2015-12-20 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
There is simply no way a viable, fully enclosed, highway capable, electric vehicle ( that can pass safety tests ) can do anywhere near 55wh per mile. On 12/20/2015 2:47 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: This is the view from the LOSER zone. The real news is the Dutch and Japanese teams and T

Re: [EVDL] Pack HV Fuse question

2016-01-07 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
If the fuse doesn't list a DC rating then don't use it with DC. On 1/7/2016 8:50 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: I have obtained a surplus fuse, new old stock. Buss JKS 400 Bussman Limitron Quick-Acting Current-Limiting FUSE JKS 400 Class J Fuse Interrupting Rating 200,000 amp. rms sym. 600v o

[EVDL] PM motor question

2016-11-20 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
OK you motor gurus. My Gast vacuum pump quit working. Upon disassembly, I found the two curved ceramic field magnets were detached from the motor housing. Needless to say, the motor would not turn with the magnets stuck to the rotor. I cannot tell by looking at the inside of the motor housi

Re: [EVDL] Moon hubcaps for Leaf

2016-12-16 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
That's odd, I have moons on my S10 and they fit very tight. The tines really scratch up the inside of the wheel. The tape is supposed to quiet the tines from "clicking" as the wheel rolls. If the tines seem loose, you will have to use pliers to go around and bend them outward slightly. Al

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Low-mileage Leaf EV glut

2017-05-18 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Unfortunately, used EV's are going to pile up in junkyards faster than gassers, and most will be in very good condition except for the battery. It will be a shame to see all the power electronics and motors go to waste. It'll be similar to used EV conversions; "car in great shape, needs batter

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-25 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Over the years I've seen entirely too many "battery breakthroughs" announced that never got into production. This is another one. :-/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAn

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-27 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
the inventor, his or her reputation, and what needs to be solved to bring it to market. It provides a better picture of the situation. On 5/25/17, 10:39 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: Over the years I've seen entirely too many "battery breakthroughs&quo

Re: [EVDL] looking for cheap load tester (Battery Recycling lead-acid)

2017-05-27 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Wow! Last time I took some lead-acids to recycle (about a year ago in NJ) they were paying 8 cents a pound. Hardly worth the effort of lugging them around. Al On 5/27/2017 4:14 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: set the duds aside for recycling (you should get some money for them! Just yes

Re: [EVDL] replacement or removal of suspected bad 40Ah prismatic LiFePO4 battery

2017-08-03 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
3.00V is considered dead. 2.67V is really dead. Your pack is only as good as the weakest (lowest capacity) cell. Unfortunately we don't know anything about the BMS system. I would guess that the electronics consists of a DC to DC converter. Either the converter (or the BMS) may not work prope

Re: [EVDL] On the Road Again

2017-09-11 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Congrats Damon, I hope to do the same with my first (lead sled) conversion, a VW Rabbit pickup. Al On 9/11/2017 12:32 PM, damon henry via EV wrote: Yesterday was my birthday and for my birthday present this year I decided to complete my lithium conversion on my 1970 Datsun Truck http://evalb

Re: [EVDL] Solar vehicles..just do the math.

2017-09-28 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
If you do the math, you will find solar vehicles make no sense, period. Al On 9/27/2017 10:01 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Maybe you can do it as a hobbyist project. I don't see it as a viable mass produced commercial product for a long time yet, if ever. It would have to be competi

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: YARA Birkeland zero emission autonomous cargo e-ship (v)

2017-10-04 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Where did the electricity come from for the electric drive motors? It had to be some kind of fossil fuel engine running a generator. Al On 10/4/2017 11:20 AM, ROBERT via EV wrote: The electrification of ships has a long history. During WWII, diesel engines were in short supply. The US neede

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