On May 21, 2014, at 9:05 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
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On 21 May 2014 at 17:26, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote:
If you start with fossil fuels, the efficiency is more balanced. You lose
quite a bit of the energy in the generation plant, or the hydrogen
production and
On 21 May 2014, at 17:41, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
See below for a brief reply.
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On May 21, 2014, at 3:58 AM, Chris Tromley via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Without wanting to get into a detailed FCV discussion here, I'm puzzled.
1. Last I heard a practical
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Toyota Drops RAV4-EV-gen2, shifting to h2
Without wanting to get into a detailed FCV discussion here, I'm puzzled.
1. Last I heard a practical FCV was not possible until some Brand New
Stuff was invented, and no one knew if/how/when that would
Without wanting to get into a detailed FCV discussion here, I'm puzzled.
1. Last I heard a practical FCV was not possible until some Brand New
Stuff was invented, and no one knew if/how/when that would happen.
2. Last I heard there was no way to create H2 that was anywhere near as
efficient as
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Without wanting to get into a detailed FCV discussion here
See below for a brief reply.
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On May 21, 2014, at 3:58 AM, Chris Tromley via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Without wanting to get into a detailed FCV discussion here, I'm puzzled.
1. Last I heard a practical FCV was not possible until some Brand New
Stuff was invented,
Mark,
If the energy starts out as electricity (hydro, solar, wind, nuclear), the
efficiency question is very important.
You will lose about half the energy converting electricity to hydrogen,
compressing the hydrogen for storage, then converting the hydrogen back to
electricity in the fuel
As a policy matter, it makes no difference. Neither can accomplish our goals by
themselves. Both BEVs and FCEVs are needed. (That's CARB's opinion, not
something I made up).
And the appropriate comparison is to an ICE, which is the baseline we are
reducing.
And the key is tailpipe emissions,
On 21 May 2014 at 17:26, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote:
If you start with fossil fuels, the efficiency is more balanced. You lose
quite a bit of the energy in the generation plant, or the hydrogen
production and fuel cell, but it is about the same in both cases.
You may be right, though my
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Toyota is as big a business as there is, along side the oil industry. I
think
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Toyota is as big a business as there is, along side the oil industry. I
think they are just getting in bed
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