Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2010-05-19 Thread Dylan Jay
On 20/05/2010, at 7:43 AM, David Bain wrote: > Good reference to identify baseline features that could be in a > Plone Social distro/buildout. > > Sharepoint's available social features: > http://www.nonlinearcreations.com/blog/index.php/2010/02/18/enterprise-social-computing-features-comparison

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2010-05-19 Thread David Bain
Good reference to identify baseline features that could be in a Plone Social distro/buildout. Sharepoint's available social features: http://www.nonlinearcreations.com/blog/index.php/2010/02/18/enterprise-social-computing-features-comparison-moss-2007-vs-sharepoint-2010/ On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2010-05-17 Thread Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]
+1 The buildout approach was exactly what I was thinking when reading Nate's last email too, Steve :) Niche/Type-of-Site/Industry-specific Distros are something we've talked about for a long time. I recall a few of us on this list doing so at a BoF at the Seattle Conference. But we didn't ye

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2010-05-17 Thread Nate Aune
>> What would it take to bundle up some Plone add-ons and release it as a >> PloneSocial distro? What add-ons should be included? Would you want to >> lead the charge to put something together? > > That could be as simple as creating a buildout extension configuration. > > In a sense, we now have i

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2010-05-17 Thread Steve McMahon
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Nate Aune wrote: > ... > What would it take to bundle up some Plone add-ons and release it as a > PloneSocial distro? What add-ons should be included? Would you want to > lead the charge to put something together? > That could be as simple as creating a buildout

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2010-05-17 Thread Nate Aune
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:54 AM, David Bain wrote: > The first two distributions that make sense to me are "almost distributions > already", the pieces are there: > Plone Mobile (built around the go mobile platform) Oh right, do you mean Mikko's gomobile platform? http://pypi.python.org/pypi/gomo

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2010-05-17 Thread David Bain
The first two distributions that make sense to me are "almost distributions already", the pieces are there: Plone Mobile (built around the go mobile platform) Plone Social. (putting all the current pieces together, a site that simplifies the management of incoming and outgoing tweets, facebook, buz

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2010-05-16 Thread T. Kim Nguyen
Re: PloneEdu distribution, that is something we (PloneEdu steering team, see http://weblion.psu.edu/ploneedu/community/steering-team) are hoping to do. Our first step is to gather up and evaluate products that are going to be of interest to education organizations, and eventually put them toget

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2010-05-16 Thread Nate Aune
Re-hashing this previous discussion because I think it's still very relevant... > Then he goes a lot into how there can only be one CMS left standing (very > highlander) and how that can be Drupal etc etc. I can start to see where > these drupal people get their zeal from now :) yes, in his Drupa

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-26 Thread Nate Aune
> Dries opinion on why it's important: "Plus, large organizations that are > about to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in a website project, don't > want to make the wrong technology choice. Instead, those large businesses > call Gartner, or any of the other analyst firms, to get advice on w

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-24 Thread Dylan Jay
On 25/11/2009, at 2:26 AM, Dylan Jay wrote: On 24/11/2009, at 9:46 PM, Matt Hamilton wrote: On 24 Nov 2009, at 04:36, Dylan Jay wrote: ... Acquia have shown up on a few 'Magic Quadrant' type lists from Analysts. Not Drupal, but Acquia. Now Plone is not listed there at all as it is just

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-24 Thread Dylan Jay
On 25/11/2009, at 2:28 AM, "Ken Wasetis \[Contextual Corp.\]" > wrote: Thanks for the insight on the ZEA arrangement - I was thinking something like this could be a possibility, but it sounds as if there -1 I agree with matt that this won't work and isn't good for plone. An alliance for t

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-24 Thread Dylan Jay
On 24/11/2009, at 9:46 PM, Matt Hamilton wrote: On 24 Nov 2009, at 04:36, Dylan Jay wrote: ... Acquia have shown up on a few 'Magic Quadrant' type lists from Analysts. Not Drupal, but Acquia. Now Plone is not listed there at all as it is just an Open Source 'project' and not a 'vendor' in

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-24 Thread Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]
Matt, +1 on your final idea, but perhaps instead set this up on World Plone Day and in various countries/locations/online. Recorded sessions that could be watched later on UStream, YouTube, etc. would be invaluable, I think. Thanks for the insight on the ZEA arrangement - I was thinking som

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-24 Thread Matt Hamilton
On 24 Nov 2009, at 04:36, Dylan Jay wrote: ... Acquia have shown up on a few 'Magic Quadrant' type lists from Analysts. Not Drupal, but Acquia. Now Plone is not listed there at all as it is just an Open Source 'project' and not a 'vendor' in the traditional analyst sense. That said I think

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Dylan Jay
On 23/11/2009, at 11:17 PM, Matt Hamilton wrote: On 23 Nov 2009, at 08:07, Dylan Jay wrote: All great points, and agree with you... one point specifically I have been noticing recently... 8) The party line on Acquia is that what's good for Acquia and Dries is good for Drupal. I saw no

Re: [Board] Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Matt Hamilton
Scott, Can I please ask you to try and record the audio of the panel discussion. Even if they are doing an official recording, it would be good to get a copy just recorded from laptop/iPhone. -Matt On 23 Nov 2009, at 07:39 PM, Scott Paley wrote: This is very helpful - thanks! One ca

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]
Scott, Regarding the different approaches, I think it's worth mentioning and possibly getting some input/material from Chris Johnson at ifPeople on the concept of 'Social Sourcing'. He's made some presentations at Plone conferences on the topic and this is how the PloneGetPaid.com site/proje

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Scott Paley
This is very helpful - thanks! One can cite that the Royal Bank of Scotland, FBI, CIA and NASA are using Plone, and Plone is on the list of approved and secure platforms for use at NASA. I know one of the questions that will come up is examples of sites where the platform is used in the enterpris

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Nate Aune
I've been putting together a "10 Things that make Plone a good choice for the enterprise" factsheet, and have come up with the following talking points. Many of these echo the excellent ones that Ken already posted in his email. 1) Security Since Plone is built on top of Zope and Zope uses a secu

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]
Hi Scott, I wanted to make sure we linked up at Gilbane; maybe we can discuss in more depth some pros/cons of Plone versus other systems and you can determine the best way to position that in the panel discussion without it being so us-versus-them. We have a small pedestal display area for C

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Matt Hamilton
Scott, This is an amazing panel discussion. There was meant to be something similar at IMS this year, but it got dropped, which was a shame. I'm still not entirely sure the organisers themselves 'get' Open Source. Having a quick look at the OSS vendors/projects listed for IMS there will

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Scott Paley
Steve - this is fantastic. Thanks! Next Wednesday (12/2) I'll be sitting on a panel at Gilbane Boston entitled "Open Source CMS Powwow", as the "Plone representative". Others on the panel will include Mitch Pirtle, the founder of Joomla, Jay Batson, a co-founder of Acquia, and Ian Howells, the CM

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]
Steve, Thanks for the valuable write-up. Following up on Matt's point, why couldn't the 'Plone Foundation' be the organization/vendor rated by the analysts? Let them analyze the staying power of the Foundation, the project, the CMS - that has to be a strength of Plone that we're not capital

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Matt Hamilton
On 23 Nov 2009, at 08:07, Dylan Jay wrote: All great points, and agree with you... one point specifically I have been noticing recently... 8) The party line on Acquia is that what's good for Acquia and Dries is good for Drupal. I saw not a hint of discomfort with that. I think this is

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Dylan Jay
On 23/11/2009, at 4:59 AM, Steve McMahon wrote: While at the Non-Profit SW Dev Summit, I had the opportunity to attend a couple of Drupal panels (new to Drupal, and what's new with Drupal). Drupal had their A team at the summit (a couple of core devs and several evangelists) to do the talk

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-22 Thread Donna Snow
Great write up Steve! Thanks for the information. At the Hacker Dojo where I volunteer there are a bunch of people working with Drupal and it still leads in popularity. This answers some very basic questions. Best Regards, Donna 'SnowWrite' Snow Office Manager, Hacker Dojo Owner, C2E Training ill

[Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-22 Thread Steve McMahon
While at the Non-Profit SW Dev Summit, I had the opportunity to attend a couple of Drupal panels (new to Drupal, and what's new with Drupal). Drupal had their A team at the summit (a couple of core devs and several evangelists) to do the talks. I wanted to pass on a few things on what I observed. S