On 8/16/2011 10:51 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Molecules in a live brain behave differently
than those in a dead brain. What is this force? Cumulative
entanglement. Significance. Negentropy. Sense.
It already has had a name for a long time: elan vital.
Brent
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On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
You misunderstand what I mean by partial zombie. You would be a
partial zombie if your visual cortex were replaced by a machine so
that you thought you could see, behaved as if you could see, but in
fact lacked
On Aug 17, 2:16 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/16/2011 10:51 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Molecules in a live brain behave differently
than those in a dead brain. What is this force? Cumulative
entanglement. Significance. Negentropy. Sense.
It already has had a name for a
On Aug 17, 2:16 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/16/2011 10:51 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Molecules in a live brain behave differently
than those in a dead brain. What is this force? Cumulative
entanglement. Significance. Negentropy. Sense.
It already has had a name for a
On Aug 16, 10:24 pm, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 16, 10:08 am, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote:
Our body precisely follows the deterministic biochemical reactions
that
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:16 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
You miss my point. the brain is not replaced. It is just not functionning at
all. The cosmic rays supplies only the motor control ouputs. It is much less
information than a supply of the whole brain. Yet he answers the
On Aug 17, 12:01 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/16/2011 6:57 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Consciousness is a very broad term, with different meanings especially
in different contexts; medical vs philosophical vs vernacular,
macrocosmic vs microcosmic, legal, ethical, etc. For
On 8/17/2011 7:01 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Aug 17, 2:16 am, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/16/2011 10:51 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Molecules in a live brain behave differently
than those in a dead brain. What is this force? Cumulative
entanglement. Significance. Negentropy.
On Aug 17, 6:38 am, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
You misunderstand what I mean by partial zombie. You would be a
partial zombie if your visual cortex were replaced by a machine so
that you thought
On Aug 17, 7:57 am, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote:
On 8/17/2011 7:01 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Aug 17, 2:16 am,
meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/16/2011 10:51 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Molecules in a live brain behave differently
than those in a dead brain. What
Jason Resch-2 wrote:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:32 AM, benjayk
benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.comwrote:
Jason Resch-2 wrote:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:03 AM, benjayk
benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.comwrote:
Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Aug 15, 10:43 pm, Jason Resch
On 8/17/2011 8:47 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Aug 17, 7:57 am, Stephen P. Kingstephe...@charter.net wrote:
On 8/17/2011 7:01 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Aug 17, 2:16 am,
meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.netwrote:
On 8/16/2011 10:51 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Molecules in a live brain behave
Hi,
Recently a link was referenced that discussed how serial sectioning
of brains is being automated:
http://www.mcb.harvard.edu/lichtman/ATLUM/ATLUM_web.htm I have a
question about this. Will this technology yield a model of the dynamics
of brain activity or will it be another taxonomy
Brent wrote about my questioning 'energy':
*Hmm. It's the 00 component of the stress-energy tensor. It's the
Hamiltonian, the time evolution operator. It's not a thing*.
Brent, you may know better than that:
1. I did not restrict my inquiry to 'things' (is e.g. a 'refutation' a
thing? but you
On 8/17/2011 3:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Aug 17, 2:16 am, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/16/2011 10:51 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Molecules in a live brain behave differently
than those in a dead brain. What is this force? Cumulative
entanglement. Significance.
On 8/17/2011 5:41 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
There is no such thing as a functionally identical part that
is not the genuine part. Any substitution potentially affects qualia,
to what degree depends on the degree in isomorphism of the substitute,
both logically and materially.
This seems to be
On 8/17/2011 4:53 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Aug 17, 12:01 am, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/16/2011 6:57 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Consciousness is a very broad term, with different meanings especially
in different contexts; medical vs philosophical vs vernacular,
On 16.08.2011 20:47 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/16/2011 11:03 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Yes, this is why in my first post, I said consider God's Turing
machine (free from our limitations). Then it is obvious that
with the appropriate tape, a physical system can be approximated
to any
On 17.08.2011 02:01 Jason Resch said the following:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru
wrote:
On 15.08.2011 23:42 Jason Resch said the following:
...
But all of this is an aside from point that I was making
regarding the power and versatility of Turing
On 17.08.2011 03:42 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru
wrote:
But the scientists could be studying zombies. There is no way of
knowing. What we can know is that IF the original brain is
conscious and is modified with a
On 8/17/2011 9:01 AM, John Mikes wrote:
Brent wrote about my questioning 'energy':
*/Hmm. It's the 00 component of the stress-energy tensor. It's the
Hamiltonian, the time evolution operator. It's not a thing/*.
Brent, you may know better than that:
1. I did not restrict my inquiry to
On 8/17/2011 10:36 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 16.08.2011 20:47 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/16/2011 11:03 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Yes, this is why in my first post, I said consider God's Turing
machine (free from our limitations). Then it is obvious that
with the appropriate tape, a
On Aug 17, 12:41 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/17/2011 3:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Aug 17, 2:16 am,
meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/16/2011 10:51 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Molecules in a live brain behave differently
than those in a dead brain. What is
On Aug 17, 1:09 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/17/2011 5:41 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
There is no such thing as a functionally identical part that
is not the genuine part. Any substitution potentially affects qualia,
to what degree depends on the degree in isomorphism of the
On 8/17/2011 1:25 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Aug 17, 1:09 pm, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/17/2011 5:41 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
There is no such thing as a functionally identical part that
is not the genuine part. Any substitution potentially affects qualia,
to what
On Aug 17, 1:30 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
But they are not all consciousness = awareness-of-awareness. And the
decision to act precedes the awareness of the decision - which is
evidence against the idea the consciousness is in control of one's
decisions, c.f. Grey Walter
Thanks, Brent, I chose the wrong wording to Stathis.
John
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:00 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
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On 8/17/2011 9:01 AM, John Mikes wrote:
Brent wrote about my questioning 'energy':
*Hmm. It's the 00 component of the stress-energy tensor. It's the
On Aug 17, 5:56 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
To continue the metaphor, that's like having an automatic car that
knows how to drive on the roads and has a legal license plate being
considered an American.
No it is not. I wish you'd stop generating these phony analogies. An
Thank you Stephen for raising this point, I very rarely see it
discussed, despite how obvious it is in retrospect. I sometimes wonder
what it would be like to inhabit a construction based on a static
brain scan... one that could not evolve. I think it would be very much
like a stuck record. And
Hey Bruno,
Given a machine's inability to prove its own consistency, and how this
result gives rise to the many logical distinctions that map to the
hypostases (per Plotinus) as you've written, then I wonder what you
would say to this: if a machine is universal, surely it can run a
program that
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