Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-10-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Oct 2013, at 19:55, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: you have agreed that all bruno marchal are the original one (a case where Leibniz identity rule fails, If you're talking about Leibniz Identity of indiscernibles it most

Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-10-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Oct 2013, at 01:29, Russell Standish wrote: On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 10:34:11AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Oct 2013, at 10:05, Russell Standish wrote: I get that Bp is the statement that I can prove p, and that Bp p is the statement that I know p (assuming Theatetus, of

Re: A challenge for Craig

2013-10-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Oct 2013, at 03:17, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 5 October 2013 00:40, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: The argument is simply summarised thus: it is impossible even for God to make a brain prosthesis that reproduces the I/O behaviour but has different qualia. This is a proof

The ultimate reason of knowledge faith power and entrophy reduction, computabilty, evolution, the universe and everithing

2013-10-06 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Some academies are just prostituted to rotten (sometime) politics, often just to get enough funding to survive. Money is not the problem. Black, obscure and grey money is the problem. Wait, this is indeed the most fundamental question! *How knowledge interact with money and power in

Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-10-06 Thread meekerdb
On 10/6/2013 12:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Oct 2013, at 19:55, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: you have agreed that all bruno marchal are the original one (a case where Leibniz identity rule

Re: The ultimate reason of knowledge faith power and entrophy reduction, computabilty, evolution, the universe and everithing

2013-10-06 Thread meekerdb
On 10/6/2013 9:08 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Some academies are just prostituted to rotten (sometime) politics, often just to get enough funding to survive. Money is not the problem. Black, obscure and grey money is the problem. Wait, this is indeed the most fundamental

Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-10-06 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: The M-guy is the H-guy (the M-guy remembers having been the H-guy) The H-guy turns into the M-guy, but they are not identical just as you are not identical with the Bruno Marchal of yesterday. The W-guy is the H-guy

Re: A challenge for Craig

2013-10-06 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sunday, October 6, 2013 5:06:31 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Oct 2013, at 03:17, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 5 October 2013 00:40, Bruno Marchal mar...@ulb.ac.be javascript: wrote: The argument is simply summarised thus: it is impossible even for God to make a

Re: The ultimate reason of knowledge faith power and entrophy reduction, computabilty, evolution, the universe and everithing

2013-10-06 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2013/10/6 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net On 10/6/2013 9:08 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Some academies are just prostituted to rotten (sometime) politics, often just to get enough funding to survive. Money is not the problem. Black, obscure and grey money is the problem. Wait, this

Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-10-06 Thread LizR
On 7 October 2013 06:48, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: The M-guy is the H-guy (the M-guy remembers having been the H-guy) The H-guy turns into the M-guy, but they are not identical just as you are not

Re: Why Philosophers Should Care About Computational Complexity

2013-10-06 Thread LizR
Thanks. I have a feeling I have already read this but will have a look. (Admittedly I haven't finished the other one yet...) On 5 October 2013 15:34, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: We did talk about this paper about a year ago - maybe on foar. I agree its interesting, though.

Re: The ultimate reason of knowledge faith power and entrophy reduction, computabilty, evolution, the universe and everithing

2013-10-06 Thread meekerdb
On 10/6/2013 1:02 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2013/10/6 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net On 10/6/2013 9:08 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Some academies are just prostituted to rotten (sometime) politics, often just to get enough funding to

Re: The ultimate reason of knowledge faith power and entrophy reduction, computabilty, evolution, the universe and everithing

2013-10-06 Thread LizR
On 7 October 2013 13:12, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: All you've done is fuzzy up uncertainty reduction so it can serve as an explanation for anything. That was my objection of Nietzsche's will to power: In a straightforward reading it's false. After enough explication it's turned

Re: The ultimate reason of knowledge faith power and entrophy reduction, computabilty, evolution, the universe and everithing

2013-10-06 Thread LizR
On 7 October 2013 09:02, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: But there is something altruistic also (well the former is not so egoistic at last) Sir Helmunt Hillary climbed the Everest not only for himself, but for England. Because he wanted the flag of England to wave above all

Re: The ultimate reason of knowledge faith power and entrophy reduction, computabilty, evolution, the universe and everithing

2013-10-06 Thread LizR
On 7 October 2013 13:26, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 October 2013 09:02, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: But there is something altruistic also (well the former is not so egoistic at last) Sir Helmunt Hillary climbed the Everest not only for himself, but for England.

Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-10-06 Thread meekerdb
On 10/6/2013 1:48 PM, LizR wrote: On 7 October 2013 06:48, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: The M-guy is the H-guy (the M-guy remembers having

Re: The ultimate reason of knowledge faith power and entrophy reduction, computabilty, evolution, the universe and everithing

2013-10-06 Thread meekerdb
On 10/6/2013 5:24 PM, LizR wrote: On 7 October 2013 13:12, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: All you've done is fuzzy up uncertainty reduction so it can serve as an explanation for anything. That was my objection of Nietzsche's will to power: In a

Re: The ultimate reason of knowledge faith power and entrophy reduction, computabilty, evolution, the universe and everithing

2013-10-06 Thread LizR
On 7 October 2013 14:20, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 10/6/2013 5:24 PM, LizR wrote: On 7 October 2013 13:12, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: All you've done is fuzzy up uncertainty reduction so it can serve as an explanation for anything. That was my objection of

RE: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-10-06 Thread chris peck
Hi Brent This is true, but it's also something Bruno has said many times. If comp is correct (to the extent that the mind is a computation, at least) then this is happening all the time. Heraclitus was right, you aren't the same person even from one second to the next. I think Heraclitus

AUDA and pronouns

2013-10-06 Thread Russell Standish
Unfortunately, the thread about AUDA and its relation to pronouncs got mixed up with another thread, and thus got delete on my computer. Picking up from where we left off, I'm still trying to see the relationship between Bp, Bpp, 1-I, 3-I and the plain ordinary I pronoun in English. I understand