On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> The M-guy is the H-guy (the M-guy remembers having been the H-guy) > The H-guy turns into the M-guy, but they are not identical just as you are not identical with the Bruno Marchal of yesterday. > The W-guy is the H-guy (the W-guy remembers having been the H-guy) > The H-guy turns into the W-guy, but they are not identical just as you are not identical with the Bruno Marchal of yesterday > > But the M-guy is not the W-guy > True, but the H-guy and the M-guy and the M-guy are all Bruno Marchal because BRUNO MARCHAL HAS BEEN DUPLICATED. >The rest are unconvincing rhetorical tricks, > Rhetorical tricks my ass! These are details of profound importance simply glossed over with the slapdash use of personal pronouns. And that's pretty damn sloppy for a mathematician. > and which, btw, can be done for the quantum indeterminacy, > The criticism some have with Quantum Mechanics is that what it says is very very odd, but odd or not and love it or hate it what Quantum Mechanics says is crystal clear and it gets the job done; in contrast when your ideas are not opaque they are logically inconsistent. > > > Each time we talk about the prediction the "he" refer to the guy in > Helsinki before the duplication, > If "he" refers to Bruno Marchal the Helsinki guy then the correct prediction "he" would make is that "he" will see Helsinki and only Helsinki; not that predictions, good or bad, have the slightest thing to do with a feeling of continuity or feeling of self. And if you want to say that Bruno Marchal the Helsinki guy is dead then fine, but then you must also say that Bruno Marchal of yesterday is dead and personally I don't want to torture the language more that I have to under these very odd circumstances of self duplication. > you fake misunderstanding > Why on earth would I, or anyone, pretend not to understand something when they really did? > of the most easy part of the reasoning. > If this is the clearest reasoning in your "proof" then I'm doubly glad I didn't read anymore. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.