Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
You cannot dance at two weddings as they in Texas. There are sometimes situations where things, I have to tell you, render themselves as Manichean, sorry to say. Sometimes, its they hand that we are dealt and are forced to play. Why have wars, if we don't have the tenacity and the bloodymindedn

Re: How dangerous is radiation?

2014-07-05 Thread LizR
I have a feeling that the idea of "no safe dosage" of radiation was popularised in Rosalie Bertell's "No Immediate Danger" which I seem to remember was a big seller at the time (mid 80s). http://www.amazon.com/No-Immediate-Danger-Prognosis-Radioactive/dp/0913990256 -- You received this message b

RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 7:34 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: American Intelligence Because the nuances of national defense, according to everything you have stated and suggested,

RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] I dare to disagree with fearless leader and his party! The gulags were run by people with this kind of thinking. How dare I judge the leadership by what it yields, rather then adherence to ideology, or ko

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-05 Thread meekerdb
On 7/5/2014 5:08 AM, David Nyman wrote: On 5 July 2014 06:27, meekerdb wrote: Ok, maybe it's mostly a matter of semantics. I don't exclude things as not existing just because they are not part of the primitive ontology. But of course I haven't been saying these things don't exist. On the cont

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yeah, you do have a point. I don't have specific candidates that would be so much better. To misquote Benjamin Franklin, "Its a plutocracy, madam, if you can keep it." The Republican Party is run by the US Chamber of Commerce, the Kochs, the Dems, by Soros, Tom Steyer, the Blackstone Group, and

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I dare to disagree with fearless leader and his party! The gulags were run by people with this kind of thinking. How dare I judge the leadership by what it yields, rather then adherence to ideology, or kowtow because the dude has African genetics? How dare I? Tee-hee-hee!! -Original Mes

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I have toyed with the idea, not only for ourselves, but for the Islamists, especially, the idea, or proof of a virtual existence-resurrection, and such. If we can present this as doable it has benefits, for us and them. It could end some of the violence. They are still mired in a religious dr

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Hey, I'm just a flying monkey, anyways. The most fearful thing in the movie were not the monkeys or the witch, but the tornado at the beginning, which at a young age I knew was real. Nyuck! That's what it was supposed to remind you of :-) -Original Message- From: LizR To: everyt

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Because the nuances of national defense, according to everything you have stated and suggested, is that we would need to sustain a heavy domestic attack, before you'd send American boots marching. You see it as an unclean, dirty, rightwing, imperialist thing, or most likely, and inside job by t

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I am good on Reason mag stuff, Telmo, and I did mention trying other things. But the non-total war thing also should be on the table. Let the Jihad know what they face, and this is one reason, one less incentive, for them to attack. This was my original pov, which caused one poster here to beco

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Brent, the cry of racism has become as Dr. Johnson, once wrote of patriotism, the last refuge of a scoundrel. Progressives scream it when they have run out of ideas to defend the indefensible. When you cry, Koch's I will say, SOROS, when you put forth Addelson, I will say, Tom Steyer. It ain't

Re: How dangerous is radiation?

2014-07-05 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 11:49:08AM +1200, LizR wrote: > My 2cI seem to recall hearing that people exposed to higher than what > is considered normal doses of radiation actually have improved tolerance > and get less cancers etc, though I can't recall where I saw/read/heard it. > > But that obv

RE: How dangerous is radiation?

2014-07-05 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 4:49 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How dangerous is radiation? My 2cI seem to recall hearing that people exposed to higher than what

Re: How dangerous is radiation?

2014-07-05 Thread LizR
My 2cI seem to recall hearing that people exposed to higher than what is considered normal doses of radiation actually have improved tolerance and get less cancers etc, though I can't recall where I saw/read/heard it. But that obviously doesn't include if any of the stuff gets into your body.

RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 1:40 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: American Intelligence On 5 July 2014 04:14, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: You see

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread LizR
On 5 July 2014 04:14, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > You seem like such a bitter person, impossibly convinced of your own > righteousness and seeing the world go wrong; it must wound you deep. So > deep you feel the need to continuously spam th

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread LizR
On 5 July 2014 04:36, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I just recognize and sort of respect that other people think differently, > then myself. Sometimes, we are offered Manichean choices, rather than > indicate that its a personal, American flaw. Its not

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread LizR
On 4 July 2014 23:12, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Reminds me of the Wizard giving the Tin Man a Diploma at the end of OZ. > What they do have, my good fellow, is a Diploma!" > > I have a diploma, which many people think is as good as a brain... > > T

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Jul 2014, at 14:08, David Nyman wrote: On 5 July 2014 06:27, meekerdb wrote: Ok, maybe it's mostly a matter of semantics. I don't exclude things as not existing just because they are not part of the primitive ontology. But of course I haven't been saying these things don't exist. O

RE: How dangerous is radiation?

2014-07-05 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
All of these studies reference externally received radiation and do not address the very different situation of radionuclides becoming incorporated or lodged into living tissue. What is the long term effect of a radionuclide – radiating the same cluster of cells immediately adjacent to it in bod

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-07-05 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> tell me if you believe in a primitively existing physical reality, or >> if you are open to the possibility that the fundamental reality is >> arithmetic >> > > >> If I were religious I'd give you an answer to that question because > religi

How dangerous is radiation?

2014-07-05 Thread John Clark
Everybody agrees that huge amounts of radiation are harmful or fatal, especially if received virtually instantaneously as in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but do more moderate amounts received much more slowly really increase the likelihood of getting cancer and death years later? All our public policy r

Re: Age limit...a modest proposal

2014-07-05 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 4:55 PM, John Mikes wrote: > Liz: > can't you get out of the reilgious obsession? Does EVERYTHING not include > more exciting (and maybe closer, to solvable) topics? > John Mikes > Ok, but that would be your religion, John :-) I think Liz's post is not only modest and fun

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-05 Thread David Nyman
On 5 July 2014 06:27, meekerdb wrote: > Ok, maybe it's mostly a matter of semantics. I don't exclude things as not > existing just because they are not part of the primitive ontology. But of course I haven't been saying these things don't exist. On the contrary, I've been labouring to differenti

Re: Re: Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:38 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Well, my question is, are you automatically, dismissing jihadi terrorism > as a chimera, a false threat, a non-issue? http://reason.com/archives/2011/09/06/how-scared-of-terrorism-should

RE: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-07-05 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:05 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-07-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Jul 2014, at 20:51, meekerdb wrote: On 7/4/2014 11:05 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ...but even if the God of the theists does not exist, he might still have important relationships with the Plotinus ONE, or even with the notion of arithmetical truth as pointed too by a machine. Which ag

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-07-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Jul 2014, at 20:43, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal On 04 Jul 2014, at 10:36, LizR wrote: On 4 July 2014 18:16, meekerdb wrote: This kind of classification

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-07-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Jul 2014, at 20:41, meekerdb wrote: On 7/4/2014 9:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I define theology by the study of the truth about you and not-you, if you want. Science is the subpart concerned with what is 3p communicable, or relatively communicable, and the proper theology contains