Re: Singularity -- when AI exceeds human intelligence

On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 11:12:32 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 23 Feb 2018, at 17:15, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > The MH spacetime in the case of the Kerr metric does permit an observer in > principle to witness an infinite stream of bits or qubits up to the inner > horizon

Re: Goedel incompleteness

On 2/23/2018 8:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I have developed a fuzzy version of prolog, actually based on Philippe Smets (the main creator of IRIDIA)  “transfer belief model”, to help in some search in giant protein databanks (when I was working for Monsanto (!)). With a friend we have taken s

Re: Singularity -- when AI exceeds human intelligence

On 2/23/2018 3:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: However though perhaps a spider may exist in a less filtered internal state of being than a mouse, I don't see how it is more conscious. Is an amoeba even more conscious then than a spider. Is the simplest most elementary particle the

Re: INDEXICAL Computationalism

On 2/23/2018 12:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 22 Feb 2018, at 23:17, Brent Meeker > wrote: On 2/22/2018 1:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Feb 2018, at 00:48, Brent Meeker > wrote: On 2/18/2018 10:21 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I

Re: Absolute relativism

Dear John, thank you for reading my text! > ​> ​ >> Nagarjuna’s thought is based on the idea that nothing exists >> intrinsically. Everything exists only relationship to something else; > > > ​ > Well, if there were only one object in the universe it would be > meaningless to say that object had

Re: Absolute relativism

On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 3:01:08 PM UTC+1, telmo_menezes wrote: > > I find it interesting that you resort to an image. I suspect that what you > are trying to communicate cannot be fully communicated with language. That > is perhaps what art is for? > > Well, images and art are a languag

Re: Singularity -- when AI exceeds human intelligence

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: ​> ​ > Which is why mice are more conscious than you are and spiders are more > conscious than mice. ​I don't know about you but I lack the ability to directly detect the consciousness of spiders or mice of or even in my fellow human beings;

Re: Absolute relativism

Francesco D'Isa wrote in: https://fqxi.org/data/essay-contest-files/DIsa_Nothing_is_fundamental.pdf ​> ​ > Nagarjuna’s thought is based on the idea that nothing exists > intrinsically. Everything exists only relationship to something else; ​ Well, if there were only one object in the univers

Re: Singularity -- when AI exceeds human intelligence

> On 23 Feb 2018, at 17:15, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 7:06:47 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 23 Feb 2018, at 12:40, Lawrence Crowell > > wrote: >> >> On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 6:38:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> > On 21 Feb 2018, a

Re: Singularity -- when AI exceeds human intelligence

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:36 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 2/22/2018 7:06 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Feb 2018, at 21:27

Re: Goedel incompleteness

> On 23 Feb 2018, at 14:53, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: >> >>> On 21 Feb 2018, at 09:58, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> Hi Bruno, >>> For example, prolog is a tiny subset of first order logic, and is Turing >

Re: Singularity -- when AI exceeds human intelligence

On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 7:06:47 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 23 Feb 2018, at 12:40, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 6:38:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> > On 21 Feb 2018, at 20:40, Brent Meeker wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On 2/21/20

Re: Absolute relativism

I find it interesting that you resort to an image. I suspect that what you are trying to communicate cannot be fully communicated with language. That is perhaps what art is for? Cheers Telmo. On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 6:27 PM, Francesco D'Isa wrote: > Hello Telmo, thank you very much for welcomin

Re: Goedel incompleteness

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 21 Feb 2018, at 09:58, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> Hi Bruno, >> >>> For example, prolog is a tiny subset of first order logic, and is Turing >>> universal. >> >> I thought Prolog was more or less equivalent to first order logic. >> Wha

Re: Singularity -- when AI exceeds human intelligence

> On 23 Feb 2018, at 12:40, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 6:38:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 21 Feb 2018, at 20:40, Brent Meeker > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2/21/2018 1:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> I guess you mean enumerable here. I

Re: Singularity -- when AI exceeds human intelligence

> On 23 Feb 2018, at 06:36, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 2/22/2018 7:06 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:37 AM, Bruno Marchal >>

Re: Singularity -- when AI exceeds human intelligence

On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 6:38:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > On 21 Feb 2018, at 20:40, Brent Meeker > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2/21/2018 1:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> I guess you mean enumerable here. I don’t see what physical bounds have > to do with Church-Turing

Re: Singularity -- when AI exceeds human intelligence

> On 23 Feb 2018, at 04:06, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:37 AM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >> On 19 Feb 2018, at 21:27, 'Chris de Morsella' via Eve

Re: Why Alien Life Would be our Doom - The Great Filter

> On 22 Feb 2018, at 18:45, John Clark wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 7:21 AM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > ​> ​You are playing with word. “Comp” has been used as a shortcut for > computations since more than 20 years on this list. > > ​I know what​ ​computations​

Re: INDEXICAL Computationalism

> On 22 Feb 2018, at 23:17, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 2/22/2018 1:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 21 Feb 2018, at 00:48, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/18/2018 10:21 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: If consciousness is invariant for a digital transplant, it is not much a >>