Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 20 Feb 2020, at 01:19, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 2:58:22 AM UTC-7, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 2:31:37 AM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 10:18, Alan Grayson > a écrit : > > > On Wednes

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 19 Feb 2020, at 21:03, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 10:04:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 19 Feb 2020, at 12:14, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:13:35 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> On W

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 2:58:22 AM UTC-7, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 2:31:37 AM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 10:18, Alan Grayson a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:35:28 AM UTC-7,

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 10:04:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 19 Feb 2020, at 12:14, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:13:35 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:34:20 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wro

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 19 Feb 2020, at 12:14, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:13:35 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:34:20 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:54:21 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote:

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 19 Feb 2020, at 10:58, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 2:31:37 AM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 10:18, Alan Grayson > a écrit : > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:35:28 AM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > Le m

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 19 Feb 2020, at 07:25, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 01:24, Alan Grayson > a écrit : > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 4:13:03 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 23:36, Alan Grayson > a écrit : >

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 18 Feb 2020, at 16:43, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 6:59:11 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 18 Feb 2020, at 07:28, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 6:21:47 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 16 Feb 2020

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:13:35 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:34:20 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:54:21 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> *What is being computed? What, or who w

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 2:31:37 AM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 10:18, Alan Grayson > a écrit : > >> >> >> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:35:28 AM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 08:30, Alan Grayson a

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 10:18, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:35:28 AM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux > wrote: >> >> >> >> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 08:30, Alan Grayson a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:10:54 AM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux >>>

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:35:28 AM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 08:30, Alan Grayson > a écrit : > >> >> >> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:10:54 AM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 08:03, Quentin Anciaux

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:34:20 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:54:21 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> *What is being computed? What, or who wrote the program? Or is there no >> program? If no program, your claim makes no sense in

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 08:30, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:10:54 AM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux > wrote: >> >> >> >> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 08:03, Quentin Anciaux a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 07:36, Alan Grayson a >>> écrit : >>> >>

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:54:21 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > *What is being computed? What, or who wrote the program? Or is there no > program? If no program, your claim makes no sense in being an analogy with > computers we have. AG * > Matter is https://en.wikipedia.o

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:10:54 AM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 08:03, Quentin Anciaux > a écrit : > >> >> >> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 07:36, Alan Grayson > > a écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 11:25:59 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 08:03, Quentin Anciaux a écrit : > > > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 07:36, Alan Grayson a > écrit : > >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 11:25:59 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 01:24, Alan Grayson a >>> écrit : >>> >>

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 07:36, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 11:25:59 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 01:24, Alan Grayson a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 4:13:03 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>>

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 11:36:40 PM UTC-7, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 11:25:59 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 01:24, Alan Grayson a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 4:13:03 PM UTC-7, Quent

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 11:25:59 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 01:24, Alan Grayson > a écrit : > >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 4:13:03 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 23:36, Alan Grayson a >>> écri

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 01:24, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 4:13:03 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 23:36, Alan Grayson a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 3:07:07 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote:

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 4:13:03 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 23:36, Alan Grayson > a écrit : > >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 3:07:07 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 22:54, Alan Grayson a >>> écrit

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 23:36, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 3:07:07 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 22:54, Alan Grayson a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 2:22:46 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote:

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 3:07:07 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 22:54, Alan Grayson > a écrit : > >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 2:22:46 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 22:15, Alan Grayson a >>> écrit

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 22:54, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 2:22:46 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 22:15, Alan Grayson a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 1:17:59 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote:

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 2:54:09 PM UTC-7, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 2:22:46 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 22:15, Alan Grayson a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 1:17:59 PM UTC-7, Quentin

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 2:22:46 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 22:15, Alan Grayson > a écrit : > >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 1:17:59 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 16:43, Alan Grayson a >>> écrit

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 22:15, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 1:17:59 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 16:43, Alan Grayson a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 6:59:11 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 1:17:59 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 16:43, Alan Grayson > a écrit : > >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 6:59:11 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 18 Feb 2020, at 07:28, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

Le mar. 18 févr. 2020 à 16:43, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 6:59:11 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 18 Feb 2020, at 07:28, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 6:21:47 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 16 Feb 2020

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 6:59:11 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 18 Feb 2020, at 07:28, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 6:21:47 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 16 Feb 2020, at 17:54, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, February 1

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 18 Feb 2020, at 07:28, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 6:21:47 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 16 Feb 2020, at 17:54, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 5:49:38 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Sunday, F

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 12:38:16 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 5:49:38 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> > > It's *your own "interpretation"*, not MWI. Publish it and call it >> something else. >> >> @philipthrift >> > > L

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 11:28:14 PM UTC-7, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 6:21:47 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 16 Feb 2020, at 17:54, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 5:49:38 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>>

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 5:49:38 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 6:19:36 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 4:58:33 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 2:51:53 AM UTC-6,

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 6:21:47 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 16 Feb 2020, at 17:54, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 5:49:38 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 6:19:36 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>>

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 16 Feb 2020, at 19:02, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 2/16/2020 5:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 14 Feb 2020, at 09:56, Alan Grayson >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-7, Brent wro

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 16 Feb 2020, at 17:54, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 5:49:38 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 6:19:36 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 4:58:33 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 12:03:00 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/16/2020 5:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 14 Feb 2020, at 09:56, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/13/2020 1:17 PM, Alan Grayson wrot

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On 2/16/2020 5:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Feb 2020, at 09:56, Alan Grayson > wrote: On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: On 2/13/2020 1:17 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: Bruce argues that the MWI and Born's rule ar

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 5:49:38 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 6:19:36 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 4:58:33 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 2:51:53 AM UTC-6,

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 15 Feb 2020, at 23:29, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:32:47 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 10:55:30 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 15 Feb 2020, at 18:04, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:05:26 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:32:55 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 2:55:48 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > >

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 15 Feb 2020, at 13:05, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:32:55 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 2:55:48 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 7:14:24 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > >

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 14 Feb 2020, at 22:31, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 6:14 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > On 2/14/2020 1:34 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >> That's quite an astute observation, Alan. The thing is, we can move o

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

> On 14 Feb 2020, at 09:56, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > On 2/13/2020 1:17 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> Bruce argues that the MWI and Born's rule are incompatible. I don't >> understand his argument, no doubt my failing. >

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 6:19:36 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 4:58:33 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 2:51:53 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 1:45:50 AM UTC-7,

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 4:58:33 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 2:51:53 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 1:45:50 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 4:29:11 PM UTC-

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 2:51:53 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 1:45:50 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 4:29:11 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> I posted what MWI means. No need to repeat it. It

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 1:45:50 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 4:29:11 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> I posted what MWI means. No need to repeat it. It doesn't mean THIS world >> doesn't exist, or somehow disappears in the process of me

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 4:29:11 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > I posted what MWI means. No need to repeat it. It doesn't mean THIS world > doesn't exist, or somehow disappears in the process of measurement. AG > That's nice. @philipthrift -- You received this message beca

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:32:47 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 10:55:30 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:42:

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 10:55:30 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:42:13 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 10:22:1

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 10:55:30 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:42:13 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 10:22:14 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:19:

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:42:13 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 10:22:14 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:19:23 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:04:

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 10:22:14 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:19:23 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:04:31 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:05:2

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:19:23 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:04:31 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:05:26 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:32:55

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:04:31 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:05:26 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:32:55 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 2:55:48 A

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:05:26 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:32:55 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 2:55:48 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 7:14:24 PM

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:32:55 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 2:55:48 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 7:14:24 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 3:55:13 AM UTC

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 2:55:48 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 7:14:24 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 3:55:13 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:48 PM Alan Grayson >>> wrote: >>> >

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 7:14:24 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 3:55:13 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:48 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:49:44 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: On Fri, Feb 14, 2

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 3:55:13 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:48 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:49:44 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 8:45 PM Alan Grayson >>> wrote: >>> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 6:14 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 2/14/2020 1:34 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > That's quite an astute observation, Alan. The thing is, we can move on > from there. If Many-worlds is true, all possible sets of measure

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On 2/14/2020 1:34 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 7:56 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: On 2/13/2020 1:17 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: Bruce argues that the MWI and Bo

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 5:37:06 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > > All quantum interpretations have a level of incoherence. > > LC > > >> That's science in general. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironism https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truth-pragmatic/ https://en.wikiped

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 3:34:59 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 7:56 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >>> >>> On 2/13/2020 1:17 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> Bruce argues that the MWI and Born's rule are inc

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:48 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:49:44 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 8:45 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:34:59 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 7:56 PM Alan Gray

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:49:44 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 8:45 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:34:59 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 7:56 PM Alan Grayson >>> wrote: >>> On Thursday, February 13, 2020 a

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 8:45 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:34:59 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 7:56 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: On 2/13/2020 1:17 PM, Alan Grayson wrot

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:34:59 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 7:56 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >>> >>> On 2/13/2020 1:17 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> Bruce argues that the MWI and Born's rule are i

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 7:56 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> On 2/13/2020 1:17 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> Bruce argues that the MWI and Born's rule are incompatible. I don't >> understand his argument, no doubt my failing. >> >> >

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/13/2020 1:17 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > Bruce argues that the MWI and Born's rule are incompatible. I don't > understand his argument, no doubt my failing. > > > I don't think they are incompatible; it's just that th

Re: MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

On 2/13/2020 1:17 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: Bruce argues that the MWI and Born's rule are incompatible. I don't understand his argument, no doubt my failing. I don't think they are incompatible; it's just that the Born rule has to stuck in somehow.  It's not implicit in the SWE and

MWI and Born's rule / Bruce

Bruce argues that the MWI and Born's rule are incompatible. I don't understand his argument, no doubt my failing. ISTM that whether we affirm one world or many worlds, all we can ever measure is what observe in this world, and it is from this world that we generate an ensemble after many tria