Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-31 Thread Alastair Malcolm
- Original Message - From: Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:45 PM Subject: Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 09:27:50PM +0100, Alastair Malcolm wrote: I use universe and history, or OM

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-30 Thread Alastair Malcolm
- Original Message - From: Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:20 AM Subject: Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 02:31:45PM -, Alastair Malcolm wrote: No - by universe, I mean a classical

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-30 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 09:27:50PM +0100, Alastair Malcolm wrote: I use universe and history, or OM-sequence almost synonymously. Since it was I who made the comment, it is what I meant. I think your method can only work if the sequence of OMs observed by an observer is describable as

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-29 Thread Alastair Malcolm
- Original Message - From: Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:58 PM Subject: Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution A final brief point in an attempt to help clarify matters. The failure of induction problem is about

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-29 Thread Russell Standish
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 02:31:45PM -, Alastair Malcolm wrote: No - by universe, I mean a classical branch of the multiverse. The multiverse is, as you say, deterministic. I think I should just try to clarify here - the minimum specification idea as applied to a multiverse (what my

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-28 Thread Alastair Malcolm
- Original Message - From: Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:09 AM Subject: Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 04:19:44PM -, Alastair Malcolm wrote: The minimal specification including all

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-28 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 09:51:34PM -, Alastair Malcolm wrote: As to your pessimism about AI, I don't share that. It is quite feasible to add sources of quantum randomness to machines, and indeed there is already quite a bit of literature on this subject, mostly for cryptographic

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-27 Thread Russell Standish
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 04:19:44PM -, Alastair Malcolm wrote: The minimal specification including all OMs in a universe could not be sufficient to specify the OMs completely. There must always be some random component to the complete specification of an OM. Bang goes AI! I can't

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-26 Thread Alastair Malcolm
- Original Message - From: Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:33 PM Subject: Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution . . . If one takes the description string x (up to some finite limit) as (minimally) representing a universe

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-24 Thread Alastair Malcolm
- Original Message - From: Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:30 AM Subject: Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution Comparing identical OM's/OM sequences, it seems to me that I am most likely to be ['in'] that sequence of OM

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-24 Thread John Mikes
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:30 AM Subject: Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution Comparing identical OM's/OM sequences, it seems to me that I am most likely to be ['in'] that sequence of OM occurrences that is in one of the simplest universes that can

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-24 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 01:40:58PM -, Alastair Malcolm wrote: - Original Message - From: Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:30 AM Subject: Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution Comparing identical OM's/OM

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-23 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:58:35PM -, Alastair Malcolm wrote: - Original Message - From: Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:56 AM Subject: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution . . . (There appears to be a subsidiary

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-19 Thread Russell Standish
, March 12, 2008 2:56 AM Subject: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution . . In your 'Why Occam's Razor' paper, sect 2, following a discussion of the Schmidhuber ensemble and the Universal Prior, it is stated If we assume the self-sampling asssumption [...t]his implies we should find ourselves

Re: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-14 Thread Alastair Malcolm
- Original Message - From: Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:56 AM Subject: Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution . . . (There appears to be a subsidiary issue of 'many description strings to one OM' (what you seem to be saying

Malcom/Standish white rabbit solution

2008-03-11 Thread Russell Standish
I'm reposting this. I forgot that I have to have the everything-list email address first, otherwise it bounces from GoogleGroups :( On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 08:56:24PM -, Alastair Malcolm wrote: I think this issue should be pushed further a little, since there seems to be a fundamental