Re: Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-02-02 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Hi Russell, I see the Metadiscussion has metastasized somewhat, but thanks for that bit of background on the list. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:30:39AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: > > Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy > > > > Nothing human is off-

Re: Re: Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-02-02 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Russell Standish Fine. - Receiving the following content - From: Russell Standish Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-02-01, 16:54:48 Subject: Re: Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:30:39AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: >

Re: Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-02-01 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:30:39AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy > > Nothing human is off-topic to me. > Which suggests that materialism and brain science are off-topic. By contrast, discussion of materialism and neuroscience is definitely on-topic, and has often been d

Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-02-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Feb 2013, at 09:57, Kim Jones wrote: "akin to FRACKING" - to hell with bloody auto spell correct K On 01/02/2013, at 7:48 PM, Kim Jones wrote: The other thing is, there may well be other fora and lists to discuss posts someone wishes to define as "metadiscussion" but that does

Re: Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-02-01 Thread Roger Clough
posting on the everything-list Now that the long time users have spoken, I feel the noobs should be represented as well, so my two virtual cents: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 Jan 2013, at 11:05, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kim

Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-02-01 Thread Kim Jones
"akin to FRACKING" - to hell with bloody auto spell correct K On 01/02/2013, at 7:48 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > The other thing is, there may well be other fora and lists to discuss posts > someone wishes to define as "metadiscussion" but that does not mean that > there exists the same quality

Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-02-01 Thread Kim Jones
The other thing is, there may well be other fora and lists to discuss posts someone wishes to define as "metadiscussion" but that does not mean that there exists the same quality of thinkers on those other lists and fora as there do on this particular one with whom you might have insightful exch

Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-01-31 Thread Pierz
Might I add, I nearly choked on my proverbial cereal reading the heading 'abortion should be self-limiting since it cleans the gene pool' or some such crap from rclough, and was about to fire back until I realized that provocation is the *purpose* of trolling. So - I consider him a troll. On Fr

Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-01-31 Thread Pierz
I agree with you Russell. It's nice to have new thinkers contributing ideas as I was getting bored with Weinberg vs Clark, but at a certain point this group will lose interest for me completely if 90% of the threads are about stuff unrelated to the original 'everything' list concept. It's not th

Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-01-31 Thread Russell Standish
Hi PGC, I have never suggested moderation of the list. It has been tried before (not by me), and it doesn't work. Also, if you are aware of the events on the FOR list leading up the the establishment of FOAR, (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/blog/?p=5) you would realise that I'm in perfect agreement wi

Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-01-31 Thread John Mikes
Stathis, you are close to have written what I wanted to add to Russell's outcry. I wrote some time ago to Roger asking him to "give back our list" - to no avail. Now I would add only one 'catch'phrase of Russell to your invaluable post: ..."*the list has been remarkably troll-free*" implying th

Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-01-31 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Now that the long time users have spoken, I feel the noobs should be represented as well, so my two virtual cents: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 31 Jan 2013, at 11:05, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kim Jones >> wrote: >> >>> I'm

Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-01-31 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Russell Standish I have no problem with the idea that the universe is sort of ultimately mathematical, except that equations by themselves can't do anything except just be there. So nothing can happen. All you have is an a priori. The other problem I have is that such a universe as you propo

Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-01-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 Jan 2013, at 11:05, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kim Jones wrote: I'm getting a bit jack of this term "metadiscussion" becuse it only ever gets applied to what other people are choosing to discuss. People talk about what people want to talk about. It'

Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-01-31 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > I'm getting a bit jack of this term "metadiscussion" becuse it only ever gets > applied to what other people are choosing to discuss. People talk about what > people want to talk about. It's about taste, perception, preference and > prejudice

Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

2013-01-30 Thread Kim Jones
I'm getting a bit jack of this term "metadiscussion" becuse it only ever gets applied to what other people are choosing to discuss. People talk about what people want to talk about. It's about taste, perception, preference and prejudice. Even WITH rigidly adhered-to rules and conventions, this s