Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-18 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Does DNA have consciousness to create the double helix from zygote to child ? ==. On Jan 18, 1:25 am, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:04 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Descartes :  “ I think, therefore I am “  Zen / Tibetan

A God-limited God - My Theodicy

2013-01-18 Thread Roger Clough
A God-limited God - My Theodicy A theodicy is a justification of God's ways to man. This is my theodicy, based on the Bible and reason. Comments appreciated. Most of the so-called contradictions in the Bible, such as a loving God lashing out at sinners, practically committing genocide, or a

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-18 Thread Richard Ruquist
DNA probably forms algorithmically On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:32 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Does DNA have consciousness to create the double helix from zygote to child ? ==. On Jan 18, 1:25 am, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:04

Re: Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

2013-01-18 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy It's not that complicated. The Revelation of John foretells the coming apocalypse. St Augustine and anybody else has to stick with that book, like it or not, unless, of course, liberalism has already destroyed you. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/18/2013

Re: Re: Re: Escaping from the world of 3p Flatland

2013-01-18 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Russell Standish Firstness is the mode of being of that which is such as it is, positively and without reference to anything else. Secondness is the mode of being of that which is such as it is, with respect to a second but regardless of any third. Thirdness is the mode of being of that

Re: Re: Can there be multiple numbers ?

2013-01-18 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King You can google this stuff up. preestablished harmony noun (in the philosophy of Leibnitz) synchronous operation of all monads, since their simultaneous creation, in accordance with the preexisting plan of God. I suspect that even God has to follow Godel's

Re: Re: Holy Smokes ! Automobile exhausts are causing polar ice caps toalso melt on Mars, Jupiter and Pluto

2013-01-18 Thread Roger Clough
Hi meekerdb http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/07aug_southpole/ Mars is Melting The south polar ice cap of Mars is receding, revealing frosty mountains, rifts and curious dark spots. NASA Link to story audioListen to this story via streaming audio, a downloadable

Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

2013-01-18 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Stephen, On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote: On 1/18/2013 12:48 AM, meekerdb wrote: On 1/17/2013 7:11 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/17/2013 7:28 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Alberto G. Corona

Re: Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

2013-01-18 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Roger, On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy It's not that complicated. The Revelation of John foretells the coming apocalypse. St Augustine and anybody else has to stick with that book, like it or not, unless, of course,

Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

2013-01-18 Thread spudboy100
Roger, you may be correct, yet the world is still a place red in truth and claw. Don't be surprised, if your theodicy, which works well for you, doesn't work so good for all. It's like a medicine that only is 30% effective. You still want to keep it around, but you must, as a physician, be

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-18 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Did these 'algorithmically forms' by the chance created child from zygote? = On Jan 18, 12:27 pm, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: DNA probably forms algorithmically On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:32 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Does DNA have consciousness

Re: Aquinas' analogy of being

2013-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jan 2013, at 18:14, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal Here's Dr. Johnson's way of refuting Bishop Berkeley's idealism: I refute him THUS!! dr_johnson.jpg Nice picture. But that kind of argument have been already refuted in Plato, Chouang-tseu, ... That's the dream argument,

Re: Math- Computation- Mind - Geometry - Space - Matter

2013-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:05, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/17/2013 7:16 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jan 2013, at 23:45, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/16/2013 10:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jan 2013, at 13:13, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal Specific properties, at least down

Re: the curse of materialism

2013-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jan 2013, at 18:50, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:06:03 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: On 1/16/2013 5:32 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: That is the most clear demosnstration that what we perceive is in the mind ,and the rest out of the mind is only

Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

2013-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:14, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/17/2013 9:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Coming back to hemp should be the good idea. Oil and wood have replaced Hemp (for textile, fuel, paper and medication) just from lies and greed. The possible global warming might just be another

Re: Escaping from the world of 3p Flatland

2013-01-18 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: we cannot do without 1p and 2p Especially 2p, most posts on this topic contain a extraordinary large amount of pee pee. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Two Schrodinger cats

2013-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jan 2013, at 20:08, meekerdb wrote: On 1/17/2013 4:32 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hi all, Naive question... Not being a physicists, I only have a pop-science level of understanding of the MWI. I imagine the multi-verse as a tree, where each time there is more than one possible

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-18 Thread Richard Ruquist
Yes, the biological laws of nature are algorithms in computation space. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:25 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Did these 'algorithmically forms' by the chance created child from zygote? = On Jan 18, 12:27 pm, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com

Re: HOW YOU CAN BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN IN JUST 4 STEPS.

2013-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jan 2013, at 22:16, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: This shows that you have not studied the field, which seems indeed pretty obvious. 13 years of studying this useless bullshit is not enough? I'll bet I know more about

Re: Re: Re: Escaping from the world of 3p Flatland

2013-01-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
I First person singular We First person plural You Second person singular / second person plural He Third person masculine singular She Third person feminine singular It Third person neutral singular They Third person plural / third person

Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

2013-01-18 Thread meekerdb
On 1/17/2013 11:48 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/18/2013 12:48 AM, meekerdb wrote: On 1/17/2013 7:11 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/17/2013 7:28 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com mailto:agocor...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

2013-01-18 Thread meekerdb
On 1/18/2013 1:19 AM, Roger Clough wrote: A God-limited God - My Theodicy A theodicy is a justification of God's ways to man. This is my theodicy, based on the Bible and reason. Comments appreciated. Most of the so-called contradictions in the Bible, such as a loving God lashing out at

Re: Holy Smokes ! Automobile exhausts are causing polar ice caps toalso melt on Mars, Jupiter and Pluto

2013-01-18 Thread meekerdb
On 1/18/2013 5:07 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerdb http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/07aug_southpole/ Mars is Melting The south polar ice cap of Mars is receding, revealing frosty mountains, rifts and curious dark spots. NASA Link to story audioListen to this

Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

2013-01-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
The reasoning we can use to justify God's ways to man are identical to those we could use to justify the idea that Satan is actually the creator of the universe, and just uses the fiction of God to further torment and tyrannize man. If I were the Devil, I would dictate the bible exactly as it

Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

2013-01-18 Thread Stephen P. King
On 1/18/2013 8:35 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: Everything I've said here can be verified by gardening or taking care of a couple of plants, animals, human beings for extended periods of time. Hi, I am not OK with the premise of this sentence or the direction. I want to know, in

Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

2013-01-18 Thread meekerdb
On 1/18/2013 10:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:14, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/17/2013 9:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Coming back to hemp should be the good idea. Oil and wood have replaced Hemp (for textile, fuel, paper and medication) just from lies and greed. The

Re: Math- Computation- Mind - Geometry - Space - Matter

2013-01-18 Thread Stephen P. King
On 1/18/2013 1:08 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:05, Stephen P. King wrote: Dear Bruno, I am discussing ontology, there is no such a process as Turing or 'realities' or objects yet at such a level. All is abstracted away by the consideration of cancellation of

Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

2013-01-18 Thread Stephen P. King
On 1/18/2013 1:23 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:14, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/17/2013 9:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Coming back to hemp should be the good idea. Oil and wood have replaced Hemp (for textile, fuel, paper and medication) just from lies and greed. The

Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

2013-01-18 Thread Stephen P. King
On 1/18/2013 4:59 PM, meekerdb wrote: I see no references to how, except to note that exponential growth can't continue indefinitely and projected populations of 9 billion are probably impossible and absent some other restraint will result in a lot of people starving. The recommendation seems

Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

2013-01-18 Thread meekerdb
On 1/18/2013 3:32 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/18/2013 4:59 PM, meekerdb wrote: I see no references to how, except to note that exponential growth can't continue indefinitely and projected populations of 9 billion are probably impossible and absent some other restraint will result in a lot