On 06 Jan 2015, at 18:36, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 5:19 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
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That would made existence into a property, which is something
usually avoided
If it's not a property then existence and non-existence have no
consequences,
No, all
On 06 Jan 2015, at 17:57, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:00 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
You seem to be obsessed with God,
I'm obsessed!? Bruno is the one running around trying to stick the
G-O-D label on anything that moves not me.
I think Liz menat that you are
On 06 Jan 2015, at 18:44, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 5:24 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
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Nothing exist = not one thing exists
Then nothing doesn't exist,
Why? if nothing exist, not one thing exist.
so something must exist, but it says nothing exists. And
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On 06 Jan 2015, at 20:21, meekerdb wrote:
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On 03 Jan 2015, at 06:05, 'Roger' via Everything List wrote:
Even if the word exists has no use because everything exists, it
seems important to know why everything exists.
But everything does not
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
The problem is that we get only one qubit, and we still lack a tensor
product, but there are reason to expect them from other variants: the
graded one given by []^n p ^m t p. But this can works only if they
obeys some
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On 1/6/2015
Chris,
1.It sure is hard to visualize the absolute lack-of-all, I agree.
What I try to do is to shut my eyes and try to imagine the universe and
all its volume collapsing down to just my body and then just my mindscape.
Then, I push that darkness of the mindscape off to the side
If only through the we which think about that nothing.
Is anything possible at all without an observer?
-Chris
Roger: If we're talking about the situation where there's only the
absolute lack-of-all or the empty set, I think the only place the
perspective/observer is coming from is
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From Douglas Jone's short story ( http://frombob.to/you/aconvers.html ):
But suppose it *were* possible to create physical universes like yours
within an appropriately specified computational universe. What could you
say about the origin of the universe then?
Very little, actually. Why? Because
On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 6:51:08 PM UTC, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Bruno Marchal mar...@ulb.ac.be
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you are obsessed with the christian or abramanic God, but I use the
term in its original sense given by Plato, where God is the ultimate
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Ultimate reality? What would make one reality more real than another?
To a physicist pressure is a perfectly real concept, and the idea that
pressure makes a balloon expand is true. And the
On 1/7/2015 3:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 06 Jan 2015, at 20:21, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/6/2015 1:48 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 03 Jan 2015, at 06:05, 'Roger' via Everything List wrote:
Even if the word exists has no use because everything exists, it seems important to
know why
On 1/7/2015 11:25 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
Ultimate reality? What would make one reality more real than another? To a physicist
pressure is a perfectly real concept, and the idea that pressure makes a balloon expand
is true. And the concept that a million billion
Dear Bruno, allow me NOT to copy your post (and mine!) just picking parts
for reflections. Thanks for recognising my post.
*Prohibition is enough to kill capitalism, and democracy in the long run.*
I argued that there is no such thing as that darn 'democracy' - so how
should prohibition (and what
yeah - this is a really original and very intelligent short story that
explores the event of an civilization on the rise, that is connected by a
more advanced civilization, but that sadly went the wrong way about 50-100
years before, effectively destroying its robust knowledge and societies,
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
all logicians have agreed that existence is a logical symbol.
And what does that symbol symbolize? The above tells me nothing, a symbol
can symbolize anything and a symbol can symbolize nothing too. Logical
sybols don't necessarily
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
you are obsessed with the christian or abramanic God, but I use the term
in its original sense given by Plato, where God is the ultimate reality.
Ultimate reality? What would make one reality more real than another? To a
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 1/6/2015 11:41 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
So, even what we think of as nothing is an existent entity or something.
If only through the we which think about that nothing.
Is anything possible at all without an observer?
What we think is nomologically possible is
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