On 15 Jan 2015, at 08:52, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
War, the biggest business of all! And as every propagandists knows
it’s all too easy to whip up a war fever – and they all pretty much
follow that dead Nazi bastard Goebbels same recipe whenever a war is
needed.
On 14 Jan 2015, at 11:13, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:36 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
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On 1/13/2015 7:24 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
You're using the term free as if it were some mystical property
like kosher or halal. A free market is simply free from
On 14 Jan 2015, at 22:56, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/14/2015 12:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:32 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
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On 1/14/2015 6:25 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
In Buddhism: Samantabhadra Buddha declares of itself:
I am the core of all that exists. I am
Yes
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On 1/14/2015 11:52 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
In case no one has noticed, our dear president Obama has changed the rhetoric used as
cover for our Orwellian systems state of permanent war…. The term “War on Terror” is bad
enough, it implies an endless war requiring an
On 1/15/2015 3:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
It is the reason why I stopped, a long time ago, to qualify myself as an atheist. I
realized that atheists believe to much in the christian God, paradoxically enough.
By your logic one cannot disbelieve in anything because to do so you have to
On 14 Jan 2015, at 16:51, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Quentin Anciaux
allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-01-14 16:16 GMT+01:00 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Quentin Anciaux
allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-01-14 15:39
On 15 Jan 2015, at 00:45, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/14/2015 3:26 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:56 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
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On 1/14/2015 12:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:32 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
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On 1/14/2015 6:25
On 14 Jan 2015, at 15:52, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Telmo Menezes
te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:36 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 1/13/2015 7:24 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
You're using the term free as if it were some
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 14 Jan 2015, at 15:52, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
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On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:36 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/13/2015 7:24
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On 1/14/2015 11:52 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
In case no
On 1/14/2015 11:58 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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On 14 Jan 2015, at 20:02, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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On 14 Jan 2015, at 20:32, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/14/2015 6:25 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
In Buddhism: Samantabhadra Buddha declares of itself:
I am the core of all that exists. I am the seed of all that
exists. I am the cause of all that exists. I am the trunk of all
that exists. I am the
On 14 Jan 2015, at 18:10, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
wrote:
Bruno has a specific definition of God,
He says he does, but when you probe a little deeper you find that
he does not. In fact he has specifically said and I quote
On 1/15/2015 9:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 14 Jan 2015, at 22:56, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/14/2015 12:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:32 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/14/2015 6:25 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
In Buddhism:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:49 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List
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Bruno, what of a super modern theology that removes God as someone who can
be reached by prayer, but an actual intelligence in the universe? I got the
idea from Dawkins, actually.
A
We elect attorneys to power. Why should we not expect them to be 'smooth
talkers?' As far as war goes, lets face it, we are not in power, nor is anyone
on this list, politically influential. Its a oligarchy madam, (misquoting Ben
Franklin), if you can keep it.
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On 1/15/2015 9:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I would have said by nature. Apes does not sent his fellows in gas chambers.
But they do. Sometimes chimpanzees gang up on member of their pack and kill
him.
people misbehave in a large part due to civilisation, which reacts naturally in
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
In many religion, God has no name
And yet somehow that doesn't prevent them from yammering on and on and on
about Mr. Noname.
I think that atheists are more in love with the word God, and even with
some definition,
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 14 Jan 2015, at 16:51, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
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2015-01-14 16:16 GMT+01:00 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:02
Brent says true, in that terrorism is a method, not an end in itself. I wonder
if people would agree to the terms, as a war against Islamist extremists, or
radical Jihadis or? I think naming the enemies of freedom and peace in the
middle east in nigeria with boko haram, and today in belgium (Hi
It was Dawkins who said that the universe may very well contain god-like
intelligences. Or to misquote A C Clarke (any relation?) any sufficiently
advanced ET is indistinguishable from God. If one of these happened to start
things up in our region of space time, and you got an interview with
On 1/15/2015 8:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Do you believe in a source of reality beyond the apparent physical reality we find
ourselves in now?
No. I don't believe IN anything. I entertain hypotheses.
Good. But you don't always talk like that. Sometimes it looks like you do believe that
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
The interesting question is not god exists or not. the interesting
question is is the physical universe the reality, or is it an aspect or
mode of a deeper/simpler reality.
And that question can never be answered if you
On 1/15/2015 10:41 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
Sigh, everybody's so paranoid about government. Obama started using extremism because
the chattering classes kept pointing out that terrorism is just a tactic and you can't
make war on a tactic.
First a comment: it is
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 14 Jan 2015, at 11:13, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:36 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/13/2015 7:24 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
You're using the term free as if it were some mystical
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:14 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/15/2015 8:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Do you believe in a source of reality beyond the apparent physical
reality we find ourselves in now?
No. I don't believe IN anything. I entertain hypotheses.
Good. But
How would you define intelligence for this thing? I think of intelligence as the
ability to observe and infer and learn. Of course the traditional God was not only the
creator of everything He was also a person who knew everything and so could not learn
anything. He simply embodied all
On 16 Jan 2015, at 5:18 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/15/2015 3:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
It is the reason why I stopped, a long time ago, to qualify myself as an
atheist. I realized that atheists believe to much in the christian God,
paradoxically enough.
By your
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
On 16 Jan 2015, at 5:18 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/15/2015 3:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
It is the reason why I stopped, a long time ago, to qualify myself as an
atheist. I realized that atheists
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Brent says true, in that terrorism is a method, not an end in itself. I wonder
if people would agree
On 16 Jan 2015, at 5:05 pm, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
Like Russell, I tend to feel (or believe, if you prefer) that this One or
what the physicalists call the beginning also includes observers. I can
conceive of the possibility that observers were present right from the
On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 5:28:03 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 14 Jan 2015, at 08:05, 'Roger' via Everything List wrote:
I have to admit I have a hard time going with the idea of Platonism or
mathematical constructs existing somewhere that no one can see or test. I
sure
Bruno, what of a super modern theology that removes God as someone who can be
reached by prayer, but an actual intelligence in the universe? I got the idea
from Dawkins, actually.
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On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:01 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
How would you define intelligence for this thing?
Jupiter Brain / Omega Point / Result of post-singularity intelligence
explosion / Platonic mind with access infinite computing resources /
Dyson's sphere powered computer,
On 14 Jan 2015, at 01:52, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/13/2015 2:03 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 5:07 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
The question is better phrased as why does anything exist?
But that question is logically equivalent to why doesn't nothing
exist?, and the
Franz vander Walls (horrors Bruno a Waloon!) has stated that Chimp society are
5-17 times more violent the human societies, on the whole. Reason? We monkies
use speech to communicate and cooperate with each other more than Chimps. We
are about the only species that consistently like to feed
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 04:01:36PM -0800, meekerdb wrote:
How would you define intelligence for this thing? I think of
intelligence as the ability to observe and infer and learn. Of
course the traditional God was not only the creator of everything He
was also a person who knew everything and
On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 8:54:40 PM UTC+1, Brent wrote:
A fair question.
I'm not so sure about that. The question presupposes ironically that
violence is a justified response to insult. It's a simple trap: taking it
literally legitimizes more ridicule because the subject didn't
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