Descartes, who first defined mechanism, believed that all animal and human
behavior (with the exception of thought) could be explained via mechanism.
Despite living in the 1600s, he was even able to imagine that synthesized
speech could be invented. However, one thing he could not imagine any
Good article.
Brent
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Religion’s smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of
absolute faith
Religious belief the world over has a strenuous relationship with
intellectualism. But
why?
John G. Messerly
All forms of consciousness involve a great amount of intelligence relative
to, say, the state of being a rock - e.g. an owl recognising a fieldmouse
from a mile away involves a lot of clever processing that might tax an
advanced computer programme, although I'm sure we can do something similar
On 2/2/2015 9:44 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 11:21 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
EVERYBODY know how to test for consciousness, intelligence behavior
is the test, and and without exception
every person on this list has
On 3 February 2015 at 12:18, spudboy100 via Everything List
everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote:
Liz, this is only for the brainwashed, the ideological. You need to ask
him why he makes justification for ISIS? For Iran, for Al Qaeda. My guess
is that its ideological. If you like Eric
Liz, this is only for the brainwashed, the ideological. You need to ask him
why he makes justification for ISIS? For Iran, for Al Qaeda. My guess is that
its ideological. If you like Eric Blair/Orwell, Freedom is the right to tell
people what they do not want to hear. In a time of universal
LizR wrote:
I think English, French, German all start composite numbers around 13?
(Maybe a Christian influence?)
I'm not sure you can deduce base 2 from half-eyed etc. And I imagine 5
was given a different design because it makes a full hand, so to speak.
I imagine types of music that evolved
I agree with that definition of freedom, which is in the same spirit as
between consenting adults in a related sphere. And the law, in a
democracy, is an attempt to codify that (although it frequently gets
hijacked into moral crusades etc). The problem,even assuming honest people
trying to
FRIENDS - MAINLY BRUNO
(it all came out from the French numbers).
any thoughts why some numerals have specific names, others use composites?
Example: (Fr:) onze, ...seize yet dixset etc. German elf, zwoelf yet
dreizehen...
same in English, Hungarian has composites above 10, Russian Italian etc.
Liz, while you are in the mood...
I have a good maxim for freedom (don't claim absolute inventorship): when
you are 'free' to do anything
without infringing into the freedom of others.
(Under the commis we formulated it differently: freedom means to feel free
to do anything that
had been allowed
Agreed so far. I tend towards libertarian small scale solutions and never
trusted 43, nor his competence, nor, the people he chiefly, represented. BHO is
much much worse, in both incompetence and lies. The man's policies fail, one by
one, and thus, will cause troubles not only to his home
On 3 February 2015 at 13:25, spudboy100 via Everything List
everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote:
Agreed so far. I tend towards libertarian small scale solutions and never
trusted 43, nor his competence, nor, the people he chiefly, represented.
BHO is much much worse, in both incompetence
On 2/2/2015 8:26 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:50 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I believe you're wrong to assume intelligence=consciousness. That may
be an accident
If consciousness was just a lucky accident Evolution would
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 02 Feb 2015, at 06:37, Samiya Illias wrote:
On 02-Feb-2015, at 6:12 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 February 2015 at 00:15, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 1:01 PM,
On 2/2/2015 8:37 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
You can no more assume those other parts of your brain are unconscious than you can
assume other beings lack consciousness. You might even have solved it consciously but
are amnesiac about it.
Poincare's unconscious was pretty smart, it could prove
What are your thoughts on split brains which develop two independently
conscious minds?
We're they always two minds, or do they become such when they can't
communicate?
Jason
On Monday, February 2, 2015, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 2/2/2015 8:37 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
You can no
You can no more assume those other parts of your brain are unconscious than
you can assume other beings lack consciousness. You might even have solved
it consciously but are amnesiac about it.
Jason
On Monday, February 2, 2015, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
All forms of consciousness involve a
I think conscious is ambiguous. From what I've read the two halves of the split brain
are not both conscious in the sense of having an internal narrative; only one half is
verbal. Both halves are conscious in the sense of processing information and influencing
action - as my dog is conscious
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:50 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I believe you're wrong to assume intelligence=consciousness. That may
be an accident
If consciousness was just a lucky accident Evolution would ensure that it
didn't exist for long. Conscious does not effect behavior
Sounds like you're a bit left hemispherist.
On 3 February 2015 at 19:01, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I think conscious is ambiguous. From what I've read the two halves of
the split brain are not both conscious in the sense of having an internal
narrative; only one half is verbal.
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 11:21 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
EVERYBODY know how to test for consciousness, intelligence behavior is
the test, and and without exception every person on this list has used that
test at least once every single day of their lives.
No that's not how
On 02 Feb 2015, at 06:37, Samiya Illias wrote:
On 02-Feb-2015, at 6:12 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 February 2015 at 00:15, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 1:01 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
There is a difference between advancing a
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