Re: The Wolfram Model

2020-05-06 Thread ronaldheld
Bruno: Am I correct that you see the Wolfram model as a Physicalist theory and not Mechanism(AR)? Ronald On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 4:40:56 AM UTC-4, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > The "hypergraph" stuff from Stephen Wolfram in recent news on his "new > foundation" of physics has a name:

Re: EinsteinPy

2020-05-06 Thread ronaldheld
Sounds as if I can pass up using it for now. Ronald On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 8:02:23 PM UTC-4, Philip Thrift wrote: > > Latest release: > > https://twitter.com/EinsteinPy/status/1257452756413165568 > > @philipthrift > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

2020-05-06 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/6/2020 3:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 5 May 2020, at 21:25, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 5/5/2020 4:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Physics works very well, to make prediction but as metaphysics, as the Platonist greeks understood, it simply does not work at all. It

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

2020-05-06 Thread Lawrence Crowell
Curious that so many images showed up. I guess this is good at drawing itself in more ways than one. LC On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 7:26:00 AM UTC-5, telmo wrote: > > > > Am Mi, 6. Mai 2020, um 11:19, schrieb Lawrence Crowell: > > On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 5:28:04 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal

Re: The Observer & The Existence of Reality

2020-05-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 5 May 2020, at 01:32, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > You're leaving out the pre-historic part. Among primitive peoples, > explanations are mixtures of supernatural agency, empirical knowledge, and > magic. Magic and empiricism gave rise to alchemy and attempts to

Re: The Observer & The Existence of Reality

2020-05-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 5 May 2020, at 00:52, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > Theology has nothing to do with science. I guess you mean that the particular implementation of christian theology is not science. I am rather OK with this. By theology, I mean the neoplatonist theologies, which was born before Plato

Re: The Observer & The Existence of Reality

2020-05-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 May 2020, at 23:00, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/4/2020 4:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> I might disagree. Especially if you keep in mind that theology ws born as a >> science, before becoming an institionised oppression system, when separated >> from

Re: The Wolfram Model

2020-05-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 May 2020, at 19:32, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/4/2020 3:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 3 May 2020, at 23:20, Philip Thrift >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I am a mathematician - not a physicist - but I don't understand

Re: The Wolfram Model

2020-05-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 May 2020, at 14:08, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 5:35:28 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 3 May 2020, at 23:20, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I am a mathematician - not a physicist - but I don't understand why there is >> this complaint

Re: The Wolfram Model

2020-05-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 May 2020, at 13:44, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > Ghost fields are scalar fields that have Fermi-Dirac statistics. Popov > introduced these as a way of introducing constraints to counter certain > degrees of freedom in gauge theories, These are then really a way of > countering four

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

2020-05-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 5 May 2020, at 21:30, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/5/2020 5:05 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 4 May 2020, at 20:47, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/4/2020 6:27 AM,

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

2020-05-06 Thread Telmo Menezes
Am Mi, 6. Mai 2020, um 10:41, schrieb Bruno Marchal: > > > On 5 May 2020, at 21:25, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 5/5/2020 4:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> Physics works very well, to make prediction but as metaphysics, as the > >> Platonist greeks

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

2020-05-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 5 May 2020, at 21:25, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/5/2020 4:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Physics works very well, to make prediction but as metaphysics, as the >> Platonist greeks understood, it simply does not work at all. It uses an >> identity thesis

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

2020-05-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 5 May 2020, at 17:36, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > As a strange loop consciousness may be an illusion having an illusion of > itself. I cannot make sense of this. How could consciousness be an illusion, as an illusion is a conscious expérience. I can imagine myself dreaming that my