On 24 Oct 2012, at 02:01, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 10/23/2012 5:47 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/23/2012 2:39 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
I have not met this argument before. I have comments interspersed.
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 08:04:35AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
Kant's Refutation of
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ROGER: 2) I can be aware of having experiences that occur in a specific
temporal order only if I perceive
something permanent by reference to which I can determine their
temporal order. (premise)
RUSSELL: What motivates this premise?
ROGER: The permanent entity could be the first
Refutation of (Problematic) Idealism
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 02:47:12PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/23/2012 2:39 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
2) can be aware of having experiences that occur in a specific temporal
order only if I perceive
something permanent by reference to which I can
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Subject: Re: Kant's Refutation of (Problematic) Idealism
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
Kant's Refutation of (Problematic) Idealism
Problematic Idealism (Berkeley's idealism, not that of Leibniz
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Stathis Papaioannou
OK, but I think you are still left with the I.
I doubted' still means there's an I present.
There's an I present but not necessarily a world to contain it,
which is what Kant set out to prove.
On 23 Oct 2012, at 14:04, Roger Clough wrote:
Kant's Refutation of (Problematic) Idealism
Problematic Idealism (Berkeley's idealism, not that of Leibniz) is
the thesis that we cannot
prove that objects outside us exist. This results directly from
Descartes' proposition
that the only
I have not met this argument before. I have comments interspersed.
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 08:04:35AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
Kant's Refutation of (Problematic) Idealism
Problematic Idealism (Berkeley's idealism, not that of Leibniz) is the thesis
that we cannot
prove that objects
On 10/23/2012 2:39 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
I have not met this argument before. I have comments interspersed.
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 08:04:35AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
Kant's Refutation of (Problematic) Idealism
Problematic Idealism (Berkeley's idealism, not that of Leibniz) is the
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Kant's Refutation of (Problematic) Idealism
Problematic Idealism (Berkeley's idealism, not that of Leibniz) is the
thesis that we cannot
prove that objects outside us exist. This results directly from Descartes'
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 02:47:12PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/23/2012 2:39 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
2) can be aware of having experiences that occur in a specific
temporal order only if I perceive
something permanent by reference to which I can determine their
On 10/23/2012 3:20 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 02:47:12PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/23/2012 2:39 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
2) can be aware of having experiences that occur in a specific temporal
order only if I perceive
something permanent by reference
On 10/23/2012 5:47 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/23/2012 2:39 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
I have not met this argument before. I have comments interspersed.
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 08:04:35AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
Kant's Refutation of (Problematic) Idealism
Problematic Idealism (Berkeley's
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