On 11/25/2013 10:58 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
What do you mean by 'selected by our existence'?
If, as seems likely, there are infinitely many universes, then the weak anthropic
principle dictates that we will find ourselves in one in which the physics is such that we
could evolve.
Brent
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So the physics of our Universe is fine-tuned to our evolution ?
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On 26-Nov-2013, at 12:04 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/25/2013 10:58 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
What do you mean by 'selected by our existence'?
If, as seems likely, there are infinitely
To be exact it's the belief that no gods exist, i.e. that theism is
wrong. But otherwise it does seem to echo Aristotle and Plato, at least as
far as I understand them.
On 24 November 2013 04:56, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 23 Nov 2013, at 14:05, Roger Clough wrote:
Atheism
On 24 Nov 2013, at 10:06, LizR wrote:
To be exact it's the belief that no gods exist, i.e. that theism
is wrong. But otherwise it does seem to echo Aristotle and Plato, at
least as far as I understand them.
Atheism is also the belief in NO afterlife, which is close to not
making much
Bruno asks: Should we search, or not, for a reason behind the physical
reality?
We must, otherwise this life itself doesn't make any sense. There has to be
a purpose, and there has to be some sort of an outcome.
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
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On 24 Nov 2013, at 10:06, LizR wrote:
To be exact it's the belief
On 24 Nov 2013, at 14:35, Samiya Illias wrote:
Bruno asks: Should we search, or not, for a reason behind the
physical reality?
We must, otherwise this life itself doesn't make any sense.
That is not entirely clear to me. In a sense, I can agree, but this is
because the natural numbers,
Liz: your precise version (with Bruno's rounding it up) makes me evoid to
call myself an atheist:
An 'atheist' requires god(s) to DENY.
In my (rather agnostic) worldview there is no place (requirement) for
supernatural (whatever that may be) 'forces' to control nature.
I feel reluctant to draw
There are variations. Thomas Jefferson was called an atheist by his political opponents.
And they were correct since he seems to have been a deist, not a theist.
Do you think there is a difference between believing the God of Abraham does not exist and
failing to believe that He does?
If it was just the Christian God then believers in Odin and the Ancient
Romans and Egyptians and so on would all be atheists which seems a bit
silly!
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On 11/24/2013 1:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 24 Nov 2013, at 10:06, LizR wrote:
To be exact it's the belief that no gods exist, i.e. that theism is wrong. But
otherwise it does seem to echo Aristotle and Plato, at least as far as I understand them.
Atheism is also the belief in NO
On 25 November 2013 10:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
That isn't a problem at all. It's just like the arguments about the
existence of god; first you have to define what you mean by god before
you can answer whether god exists or not. So what is the definition of
physical reality?
So far left out of this discussion is that the physical reality that we
observe and derive physical laws for may be only 5% of the universe, the
other 95% being comprised of Dark Energy and Dark Matter, which are
actually just placeholders for the unknown.
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:53 PM,
It seems unlikely that the nature of dark matter and dark energy will
change the ontological status of matter generally. A materialist, for
example, will assume that they are more of the same -- but less
interactive, at least with our 5%.
On 25 November 2013 13:08, Richard Ruquist
On 23 Nov 2013, at 14:05, Roger Clough wrote:
Atheism is wish fulfillment.
Yes. Notably. I agree.
It is the fuzzy belief that the Christian God does not exist, together
with the belief in the Christian Matter.
The debate between Atheists and Christians hides the deeper debate
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