On 25 November 2013 10:53, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

> That isn't a problem at all.  It's just like the arguments about the
> existence of god; first you have to define what you mean by "god" before
> you can answer whether "god exists" or not. So what is the definition of
> "physical reality"?  It seems to me that "physical" only adds the concept
> of shared/public.  But Plato also intended his reality to be shared and
> public.
> It seems quite hard to pin down exactly what physical means, now that we
can no longer visualise particles as tiny billiard balls. I think the
important point is whether "physical" is fundamental, or derived from
something else.  Aristotle would say the former, Plato the latter.

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