Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-20 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:20:42 PM UTC-4, Pierz wrote: > > John has a button on his forehead with the words "free will" written on > it. It's a bit like Woody's string in Toy Story that causes him to say > "reach for the sky" when you pull it. If you push John's free will button > he says so

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-20 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:19:31 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 20 Jul 2013, at 15:15, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:06:38 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 16 Jul 2013, at 17:29, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM, C

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Jul 2013, at 15:15, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:06:38 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jul 2013, at 17:29, Telmo Menezes wrote: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Craig Weinberg > wrote: >> >> >> On Friday, July 12, 2013 10:49:20 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote: >

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-20 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:06:38 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 16 Jul 2013, at 17:29, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Craig Weinberg > > > > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Friday, July 12, 2013 10:49:20 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-20 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:29:07 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Friday, July 12, 2013 10:49:20 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I think functionalism (or more specifically, computationalism

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-18 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 16 Jul 2013, at 17:29, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Craig Weinberg >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, July 12, 2013 10:49:20 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote: I think functionalism (or

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jul 2013, at 02:16, Pierz wrote: I pretty much agree with you Jason. The materialist simply posits that the conciousness of a person (or conscious being) represents a static track through the 4d block universe, misperceived as changing due to something about the way the brain process

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Jul 2013, at 17:29, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Craig Weinberg > wrote: On Friday, July 12, 2013 10:49:20 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote: I think functionalism (or more specifically, computationalism) is the currently leading theory of mind among cognitive scie

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-16 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Pierz wrote: > I pretty much agree with you Jason. The materialist simply posits that the > conciousness of a person (or conscious being) represents a static track > through the 4d block universe, misperceived as changing due to something > about the way the brain

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-16 Thread Pierz
On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:30:24 AM UTC+10, Brent wrote: > On 7/16/2013 5:16 PM, Pierz wrote: > > > I pretty much agree with you Jason. The materialist > simply posits that the conciousness of a person (or conscious > being) represents a static track through the 4d block u

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-16 Thread meekerdb
On 7/16/2013 5:16 PM, Pierz wrote: I pretty much agree with you Jason. The materialist simply posits that the conciousness of a person (or conscious being) represents a static track through the 4d block universe, misperceived as changing due to something about the way the brain processes. What

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-16 Thread Pierz
John has a button on his forehead with the words "free will" written on it. It's a bit like Woody's string in Toy Story that causes him to say "reach for the sky" when you pull it. If you push John's free will button he says something like, "How quaint! The 'free will' noise. What on earth does

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-16 Thread Pierz
I pretty much agree with you Jason. The materialist simply posits that the conciousness of a person (or conscious being) represents a static track through the 4d block universe, misperceived as changing due to something about the way the brain processes. What this account fails to explain howev

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Friday, July 12, 2013 10:49:20 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I think functionalism (or more specifically, computationalism) is the >> currently leading theory of mind among cognitive scientists and >> philosophers. It is nei

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-15 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Friday, July 12, 2013 10:49:20 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote: > > > > > I think functionalism (or more specifically, computationalism) is the > currently leading theory of mind among cognitive scientists and > philosophers. It is neither a materialistic, eliminativist, dualist, nor > idealist conc

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-13 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:37 PM, wrote: > The price to pay to have an dualistic explanation for consciousness is > the total absence of free will. > Free will? What an odd term, what in the world does it mean? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-12 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:37 PM, wrote: > > Hi, > > My name is Luiz Felipe, I am 38 years old, Brazilian, graduated > in engineering and i am crazy about science and philosophy. > Welcome to the list Luiz. > > Recently, after reading and watching documentaries about general > relativity and th

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-12 Thread meekerdb
I think you're drawing unwarranted conclusions from the absence of a "flow" of time. There is no "flow" of space, but that doesn't keep space from being a useful concept. In GR there is still a time dimension. As Sean Carroll points out there can still be states corresponding to consciousness

General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-12 Thread luizfelipecsrj1
Hi, My name is Luiz Felipe, I am 38 years old, Brazilian, graduated in engineering and i am crazy about science and philosophy. Recently, after reading and watching documentaries about general relativity and the problem of consciousness, I made a structured reflectionon on a 4 pages "paper" .