no Marchal
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Time: 2012-12-19, 09:49:53
Subject: Re: A truce: if atheism/materialism is an "as if" universe
Hi Roger,
On 17 Dec 2012, at 14:05, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
There seems to be some sort of prejudice given to
"proof" or "t
On 17 Dec 2012, at 14:28, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:09 AM, meekerdb
wrote:
On 12/16/2012 9:59 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:44 AM, meekerdb
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On 12/16/2012 8:57 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Hi Richard,
I believe in the one god of CTM
From: Bruno Marchal
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Time: 2012-12-16, 09:59:56
Subject: Re: A truce: if atheism/materialism is an "as if" universe
On 16 Dec 2012, at 14:48, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
I probably agree, but what is the primitive
physical universe ?
An
On 17 Dec 2012, at 12:51, Telmo Menezes wrote:
I believe in the one god of CTM and its (X & Z) logically derived
string theory that is omnipotent (contains and carries out the laws
of
physics),
When people claim that an entity is omnipotent, they are generally
implying intentionality on
On 16 Dec 2012, at 20:16, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/16/2012 1:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 06 Dec 2012, at 15:00, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
OK, after thinking it over, it seems there's two ways of thinking
about L's metaphysics.
1) (My way) The Idealist way, that being L's met
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:09 AM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 12/16/2012 9:59 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:44 AM, meekerdb wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/16/2012 8:57 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Richard,
>>>
I believe in the one god of CTM and its (X& Z) logically deriv
izon.net]
12/17/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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Time: 2012-12-16, 09:59:56
Subject: Re: A truce: if atheism/materialism is an "as if" universe
On 16 Dec
>
>
>
>> I believe in the one god of CTM and its (X & Z) logically derived
>> string theory that is omnipotent (contains and carries out the laws of
>> physics),
>
>
> When people claim that an entity is omnipotent, they are generally
> implying intentionality on the part of the entity.
>
>
>> omn
On 12/16/2012 9:59 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:44 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/16/2012 8:57 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Hi Richard,
I believe in the one god of CTM and its (X& Z) logically derived
string theory that is omnipotent (contains and carries out the laws of
phy
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:44 AM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 12/16/2012 8:57 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
>
>>
>> I believe in the one god of CTM and its (X & Z) logically derived
>> string theory that is omnipotent (contains and carries out the laws of
>> physics),
>
>
> When people claim t
On 12/16/2012 8:57 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Hi Richard,
I believe in the one god of CTM and its (X & Z) logically derived
string theory that is omnipotent (contains and carries out the laws of
physics),
When people claim that an entity is omnipotent, they are generally implying
Hi Richard,
> I believe in the one god of CTM and its (X & Z) logically derived
> string theory that is omnipotent (contains and carries out the laws of
> physics),
When people claim that an entity is omnipotent, they are generally implying
intentionality on the part of the entity.
> omniscie
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 8:16 PM, meekerdb wrote:
>>
>> On 12/16/2012 1:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 06 Dec 2012, at 15:00, Roger Clough wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stephen P. King
>>
>> OK, after thinking it over, it seems there's two w
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 8:16 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 12/16/2012 1:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> On 06 Dec 2012, at 15:00, Roger Clough wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen P. King
>
> OK, after thinking it over, it seems there's two ways of thinking
> about L's metaphysics.
>
> 1) (My way) The Idealist
On 12/16/2012 1:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 06 Dec 2012, at 15:00, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
OK, after thinking it over, it seems there's two ways of thinking
about L's metaphysics.
1) (My way) The Idealist way, that being L's metaphysics as is.
2) (Your way) The atheist/materi
).
Bruno
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/16/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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Subject: Re: A truce: if atheism/materialism is an "as if" universe
On 06 Dec 2012, at 15:00, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
OK, after thinking it over, it seems there's two ways of thinking
about L's metaphysics.
1) (My way) Th
On 06 Dec 2012, at 15:00, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
OK, after thinking it over, it seems there's two ways of thinking
about L's metaphysics.
1) (My way) The Idealist way, that being L's metaphysics as is.
2) (Your way) The atheist/materialist way, that being the usual
atheist/ma
On 12/9/2012 9:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hmm
With CTM it is simple, if our knowledge augment linearly, our
ignorance augments non computably. The more we know, the more we can
intuit how much we don't know, making us wiser (with some luck). We
can jump from big picture to big picture, b
On 09 Dec 2012, at 00:30, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 12/8/2012 2:28 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Dear Stephen,
it is amazing how we formulate our (belief) systems similarly,
except for yours in a descriptive - mine in an agnostic
"explanation" (=a joke).
Dear John,
;-) I try hard to stay in
On 12/8/2012 2:28 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Dear Stephen,
it is amazing how we formulate our (belief) systems similarly, except
for yours in a descriptive - mine in an agnostic "explanation" (=a joke).
Dear John,
;-) I try hard to stay in a superposed state, somewhere between
serious and 'jus
phen P. King
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Time: 2012-12-06, 14:02:33
Subject: Re: A truce: if atheism/materialism is an "as if" universe
On 12/6/2012 9:00 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Stephen P. King
> OK, after thinking it over, it seems there's two ways of thinking
> about L&
you seem to have no means of overall synchronizing
> the actions of sets.
>
>
> Exactly. In order to have an overall synchronization of the actions
> there must be a computation of such and this is an infinite NP-hard problem
> that simply cannot occur prior to the availability o
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Time: 2012-12-06, 14:02:33
Subject: Re: A truce: if atheism/materialism is an "as if" universe
On 12/6/2012 9:00 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Stephen P. King
> OK, after thinking it
On 12/6/2012 9:00 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
OK, after thinking it over, it seems there's two ways of thinking
about L's metaphysics.
1) (My way) The Idealist way, that being L's metaphysics as is.
2) (Your way) The atheist/materialist way, that being the usual
atheist/materialist
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