Re: Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-08 Thread Roger Clough
Allen - Receiving the following content - From: meekerdb Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-07, 17:56:48 Subject: Re: The best of all possible Worlds. On 1/7/2013 4:43 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerdb There are some errors in fact in the Bible, but IMHO

Re: Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-07 Thread Roger Clough
, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: meekerdb Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-06, 16:21:42 Subject: Re: The best of all possible Worlds. On 1/6/2013 12:57 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerdb Sorry, I obviously missed

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-07 Thread meekerdb
On 1/7/2013 4:43 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerdb There are some errors in fact in the Bible, but IMHO it is inerrant with regard to faith and practice. By inerrant, I mean that it is completely consistent along those lines. You have to take it as a whole. By which you really mean that

Re: Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-06 Thread Roger Clough
: 2013-01-05, 15:32:05 Subject: Re: The best of all possible Worlds. On 1/5/2013 6:01 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerdb You say, It's that cartoon known as the Christian Bible. Brent For Christians, it's far more important to believe in a god than to determine the accuracy

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-06 Thread meekerdb
for morality or ethics. Brent [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/6/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: meekerdb Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-06, 14:15:41 Subject: Re: The best of all possible Worlds

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Jan 2013, at 19:26, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 02 Jan 2013, at 20:31, meekerdb wrote: On 1/2/2013 5:21 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Leibniz's view, in his theodicy , which I hold to also, is that the world down here,

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-05 Thread meekerdb
On 1/5/2013 6:01 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerdb You say, It's that cartoon known as the Christian Bible. Brent For Christians, it's far more important to believe in a god than to determine the accuracy of the hypothesis. That's why they had only two significant publications, and the most

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-04 Thread meekerdb
On 1/3/2013 11:58 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerb, Heaven is not part of contingent creation, so your statement that there is no heaven is illogical or irrelevant. It was an inference from your statement, This is because things can't be good everywhere at the same time. After the second

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-04 Thread Stephen P. King
On 1/4/2013 3:18 AM, meekerdb wrote: On 1/3/2013 11:58 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerb, Heaven is not part of contingent creation, so your statement that there is no heaven is illogical or irrelevant. It was an inference from your statement, This is because things can't be good

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-04 Thread meekerdb
On 1/4/2013 1:23 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/4/2013 3:18 AM, meekerdb wrote: On 1/3/2013 11:58 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerb, Heaven is not part of contingent creation, so your statement that there is no heaven is illogical or irrelevant. It was an inference from your statement,

Re: Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-03 Thread Roger Clough
Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/3/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-02, 13:37:05 Subject: Re: The best of all possible Worlds. On 1/2/2013 8:21 AM, Roger

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-03 Thread Stephen P. King
*Time:* 2013-01-02, 13:37:05 *Subject:* Re: The best of all possible Worlds. On 1/2/2013 8:21 AM, Roger Clough wrote: I forgot add that that's why Leibniz called this The best of all possible Worlds. Why bad things happen to good people--Leibniz's Theodicy

Re: Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-03 Thread Roger Clough
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-03, 09:49:53 Subject: Re: The best of all possible Worlds. On 1/3/2013 9:30 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stephen P

Re: Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-03 Thread Roger Clough
: everything-list Time: 2013-01-02, 14:31:51 Subject: Re: The best of all possible Worlds. On 1/2/2013 5:21 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Leibniz's view, in his theodicy , which I hold to also, is that the world down here, that God created, is necessarily imperfect, so, as they say crap happens

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Jan 2013, at 20:31, meekerdb wrote: On 1/2/2013 5:21 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Leibniz's view, in his theodicy , which I hold to also, is that the world down here, that God created, is necessarily imperfect, so, as they say crap happens. This is because things can't be good everywhere

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 02 Jan 2013, at 20:31, meekerdb wrote: On 1/2/2013 5:21 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Leibniz's view, in his theodicy , which I hold to also, is that the world down here, that God created, is necessarily imperfect, so,

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-03 Thread Stephen P. King
On 1/3/2013 9:59 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stephen P. King I suppose that you're referring to the cpre-established perfect harmony, which makes it seem as if everything we do is determined (by God). IMHO that only means that God knows what we will do, not make the decision for us. Hi

Re: Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-03 Thread Roger Clough
: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-03, 12:23:33 Subject: Re: The best of all possible Worlds. On 02 Jan 2013, at 20:31, meekerdb wrote: On 1/2/2013 5:21 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Leibniz's view, in his theodicy , which I hold to also, is that the world down here

The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-02 Thread Roger Clough
I forgot add that that's why Leibniz called this The best of all possible Worlds. Why bad things happen to good people--Leibniz's Theodicy As to tornadoes, there are various views, usually part of Theodicies. Here's the view I prefer, that of my mentor, Leibniz, explained in his

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-02 Thread Stephen P. King
On 1/2/2013 8:21 AM, Roger Clough wrote: I forgot add that that's why Leibniz called this The best of all possible Worlds. Why bad things happen to good people--Leibniz's Theodicy As to tornadoes, there are various views, usually part of Theodicies. Here's the view I prefer, that of my

Re: The best of all possible Worlds.

2013-01-02 Thread meekerdb
On 1/2/2013 5:21 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Leibniz's view, in his theodicy , which I hold to also, is that the world down here, that God created, is necessarily imperfect, so, as they say crap happens. This is because things can't be good everywhere at the same time. So there is no heaven.